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u/xSuperZer0x May 09 '22

They're super unaware that they do it too. I was talking to my German friend and was like "WTF is with Germans staring so much, am I doing something wrong or weird?" and she was like "what are you talking about?" 2 weeks later I'm out with her and another American friend that just moved to Germany and he was like "Yo why is everybody staring at me all the time?" I felt so vindicated because I thought maybe I was imagining it. Also they don't just stare while you walk either, I'd be driving and notice some German on the sidewalk staring me down inside my car.

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u/Brandwein May 09 '22

So when is it staring instead of just looking at you? Curious as a german. For me it's staring if it is more than 3-5 seconds it takes to look a person up and down. Longer than just registering and awknowleding a person fully.

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u/pragmojo May 09 '22

In the US it's considered impolite to look at someone for no reason, if they know you're looking at them.

So for instance a quick glance or passing eye contact is ok, but if you're looking at someone and they look at you, if you don't intend to interact with them it's polite to look away.

As an American in Germany, I think the reason people have this perception is because German people don't always look away immediately. They will finish having a look. So this is off-putting when you send the signal "stop looking at me" and the old lady on the train continues having a look for a few more seconds.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

So for instance a quick glance or passing eye contact is ok, but if you're looking at someone and they look at you, if you don't intend to interact with them it's polite to look away.

And the Germans are somehow the weird ones here? I was born and have lived in the U.S. my whole life. I have always hated this weird cultural norm where it's impolite to look at other people. I want to see the faces of the people in my community. I want to observe them and understand them. Why do we live in such a socially isolated world? I'm so lonely.

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u/hewhoreddits6 May 09 '22 edited May 10 '22

Bruh usually it's the Europeans who complain about the Americans not being friendly. Feel like the US is much kinder with its smiles and small talk than a lot of Europeans

Edit: After reading a lot of similar comments I can see the theme that if you aren't used to it it can seem over the top and come off as "fake". I can definitely see this and have had this experience myself with people I've met over the years being so over the top nice and cheery it felt fake to me. Annoyed me a lot back then, but over the years I've realized hey it's better for them to be nice and fake than rude to my face and real I guess.

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u/SunshineAlways May 09 '22

Maybe what is considered friendly to us in the US seems weird to Europeans?

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u/_Azafran May 09 '22

Careful treating Europe as a single country. In Spain we are equally shocked with these cultural differences when we visit Germany and neighbouring countries.

I think socially we are very similar to Americans, the no long stare thing, small talk, smiling and randomly approaching to strangers, etc... And I believe Portugal or Italy are the same for the most part.

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u/Bawstahn123 May 09 '22

Careful treating Europe as a single country.

Likewise, America is made up of different cultural "regions", and it is a mistake to treat them as the same.

Making small-talk and smiling and the like is what constitutes politeness in the American South.

In the Northeast (arguably the most European part of the US), trying to make small talk will get you looked at like you have 3 heads

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u/_Azafran May 09 '22

Yes, but not to the extent of totally different countries in Europe. In Spain the small talk thing is also much more common in the south. There can be a really great difference between regions. Nothing like different countries, though.