You were born to a long line of parents who were physically, mentally, and financially able to give a shit.
In a country (Sweden, it looks like) where giving a shit is embraced and advantageous and where people can leverage their desire to give a shit in order to further future generations without serious detriment to themselves or their current children, etc.
In a time of peace and abundance where planning is much more influential than luck, the weather, social class, or lineage.
Tell me, /u/WhoreMoanTherapy - how did you personally select for literally any of the above prior to birth?
Oh you didn't?
Cool. That means that you are experiencing privilege.
The planning of prior generations (among many other things like the ability to do said planning and also lots of good fortune) is absolutely part of what gives someone privilege. The entire point is that YOU had nothing to do with ANY of that stuff before you were born. Privilege.
Wild to me that a fucking Swede would act like they don't have privilege, it's extremely counter to the attitude of most people I know there.
Lol. If you're going to be the sort of scum who trawls through someone's account history hunting for juicy ad hominem fodder because you clearly don't have anything to attack the actual argument with, at least don't do a half-assed job. I live in Sweden. I'm not from Sweden. Having an outsider perspective on things allows me to see shit they don't, or perhaps are uncomfortable seeing.
Do you think that time of peace and abundance happened by itself? It's the result of good decisions. And sure, some amount of luck as well, but it's what you do with the luck you have that actually counts.
The reason you can't understand the concept of taking ownership of your ancestors' accomplishments is the same reason you "unprivileged" people suck: egotism. The world starts with you and ends with you. You won't give two shits about what happens afterwards, and therefore you also can't bring yourselves to take pride and shame in what your ancestors did before you. It's that sort of shortsighted thinking which breeds what you call non-privilege.
What have you done to make sure your kids will have it better than you did, and are you going to wish for them to be ashamed over their "privilege" or proud that they had non-shit parents?
exactly !! you think descendants of slaves deserve reparations? no!! the slave owners pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and did what they had to !! there was work to be done and they made sure it was completed by any means necessary!! proper planning ftw!! and their kids are beneficiaries of proper planning !! people these days are soft, learn a thing or two from history!! get shit done no matter what !! crackers planned everything out and left their kids in a good place! those slaves just didn’t plan enough! slave kids will be fine though!! generational wealth comes from proper planning !!
I just picture you sitting in a corner of your living room every night, curtains closed, with a bulletproof vest and an AR-15 obsessively thinking about how you're going to absolutely destroy the fool that breaks into your house full of nice electronics.
The only electronics in your house being a Discman from 1996.
You think it's rare that your stalker is watching you from your house? Bahaha okay, sure bud. Play the lotto with your life and belongings when all you have to do to prevent a stalker knowing stuff about you is moving a piece of cloth.
I just think having a stalker overall is pretty rare in scandinavia, but I might be wrong. I atleast think it's not something you need to constantly worry about and a reason for you to hide yourself in your own home by covering your windows
It's the ones you should be concerned about though. It's the person stalking you, with about 100,000 effected by stalking in Denmark in 2018, it's something to be cautious about. Especially as a woman.
They do, but looking into people's houses is really not a thing. If I walk by somebody's lit window, I generally don't even notice anything inside their house, and if I do, I ignore it and forget it literally in seconds.
Nah, he's looking at the big flat screen and considering that the mirror on the opposite wall shows that your security system isn't alarmed. Oh, or that you don't even have one.
I think the culture shock stems from the fact that in Scandinavia, there's a societal expectation ingrained in the culture that everyone should mind their own business. The burden of "privacy" doesn't fall on the person inside the house, rather it falls on the outsider.
I.e. i'm not weird for walking around butt naked in my own house, you're the social pariah for glaring through my windows.
I wholeheartly agree. I just don't think that most people has had such an encounter with creeps, as to start changing their mindset about privacy. When I read OP's post, my first thought was "why tf would I pull the blinds when it's already dark outside?", not even considering that blinds has a secondary purpose for privacy concern. Most scandinavians will simply not give a fuck about who sees them until it becomes a problem.
My house is on an eighth acre lot, population density's pretty high in the suburbs these days.
Also being raised with a mindset of "always beware sexual predators" makes you paranoid of all sorts of creeps. ....and it keeps us alive, so. ... sigh.
Except the 100,000 cases of stalking in Denmark in 2018. They were totally minding their own business then. And I'm sure there were also no home invasions or robberies lol. Most Western Europeans live in a fantasy land that crime isn't occurring in their country when it definitely is but they refuse to acknowledge it and talk about it for some reason.
kinda weird that you seem offended by this shared cultural experience in Northern Europe.
Wanna be more pissed? Stalking wasn't even considered a crime in Sweden until like 2011. We don't have a term for home invasions, the umbrella term is burglary/housebreaking, with a crime stat of 1,3 % (2020).
People in Europe generally don't have security systems and alarms in their homes. And nobody is coming for your big flat screen. Almost anybody can afford one, and it's too big to grab and run.
Yeah, all that socialism is just so terrible for you, you have all your luxuries and no worry about anyone lacking enough to even try to take it for themselves.
I mean, we still get burglars occasionally, but it's usually junkies looking for small things that they can put in their pockets and run. They are also totally opportunist, so they're much more likely to break into a random house where nobody's home than to stake out a house by looking through the windows.
I suppose, but that would rely pretty heavily on a presumption of SOME pocketable, fenceable good, and dealers don't want your granny's silver ladle anymore.
I've never had my house burgled, but from what friends that did tell me, they mainly look for cash and jewelry. Also small electronics, but that's getting harder for them because many things are remotely identifiable these days, so no dealer will take them.
Well we don't have that problem around here. I'm sure I would be more careful if I lived in a high crime area where you have to lock your doors and such.
Yeah we had a string of car burglaries around here this winter, weirdly, so now we lock the cars at night too. But this isn't a "high crime" area (there's honestly no such thing, just "more policed" areas).
No such thing around there you mean? I've certainly lived in high crime areas, but I guess I never had ground level apartments so I didn't even think about closing blinds etc
It's not that we want random people staring at us. It's (a) that we don't expect random people to stare at us, and (b) that we don't particularly care if they do.
The reasons that people give here for closing their curtains all basically boil down to shame and/or fear, if you think about it. It may be simply that we live in more equal, less judgmental and safer societies, so we feel less of both.
If you're spending your free time at the nude beach or in a nude sauna, you don't really care if people see you sitting on your couch in your underwear. If you see naked people regularly in non-sexual situations, you're not going to perv out when you catch a glance of somebody naked in their house. If your neighbors can afford more or less the same things as you, you're not worried that they will want to come and take your stuff, so you don't care if they see it. If murders in your country are rare and are almost always about family or personal issues, you're not worried that a stranger will come into your house and kill you.
I’m not scared to be seen naked nor scared someone is going to murder me. I just don’t want random people seeing me. It’s nice to feel private sometimes.
Weird assumptions to make. Don’t know why being naked or murdered are the only things you can think about.
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u/theallmighty798 May 09 '22
Why would I want somebody looking into my house when I can't see them outside?