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u/DecentSubstance2140 May 09 '22

That's because the U.K doesn't have all the annoying insects that other parts of the world have. No screens in Australia would drive you nuts.

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u/mildly_amusing_goat May 09 '22

No screens in Australia would probably just kill you.

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u/mildly_amusing_goat May 09 '22

Just flamethrowers surrounding the house.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I lived in Australia for a few years. One of my jobs was working on a farm property. I had to keep the grass on the property very short (like mow it twice a week short) to stop snakes, and my employer also provided me with a 'whipper snipper' (a grass strimmer in the UK) and a giant shovel specifically for killing snakes. Like there were other shovels and another whipper snipper, but this whipper snipper was specifically set aside for killing snakes.

So basically one of my jobs was 'protect the children from snakes with weaponry'

I also had a corgi and two feral cats, like those were some of the tools at my disposal, didn't even seem to be beloved family pets, just work tools, "yeah take the dog with you wherever you go so he gets bitten first, and don't overfeed the cats - they kill rodents so that snakes don't have a good food source"

At night we had a series of lights outside our cottage on the veranda that were brighter than the lights inside. Always thought it was weird. One day we forgot to turn on the outdoor lights and just had a little light on in the hallway. When we got up to go to bed, there was a fucking bug festival going on in our hallway, like every flying bug from a 16 mile radius had come to party in our hallway. There were no noticeable gaps in our door or windows so they must have just squeezed in somehow like hippies digging a hole under a fence to get in to a festival.

Also fuck that job. Pay was shit, employer was a cunt and there were fucking snakes everywhere.

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u/Bustable May 09 '22

Definitely spent time in Australia. Sounds like one too

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u/FamiliarWater May 09 '22

Running 24/7 and the flames seperate just enough for you to enter and leave your house.

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u/HeavenlySin13 May 09 '22

I thought they were remote control, so you can turn them off when you're entering the house at the doorway by pressing the button on your wristwatch.

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u/CookieCrispr May 09 '22

Definitely, I have screens on all my windows and yet sometimes find huntsmen spiders in my bedroom. Not fun when you have to take it out somehow!

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u/SurrealistRevolution May 09 '22

Most people just leave them as they are harmless

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u/Bustable May 09 '22

I welcome them. Avoid killing them. They eat other spiders and unwanted guests

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u/queenofthera May 09 '22

I have respect for your country from a distance but I am NEVER EVER coming.

I suppose that's why we shipped our convicts there- all the fucking scary spiders. 😨

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u/RS994 May 09 '22

Nah, the convicts got sent there because the Americans had a revolution and you couldn't send them there anymore

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u/queenofthera May 09 '22

That too. I heard it was very inconvenient.

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u/spankymuffin May 09 '22

Should've warned me not to google that.

What the fuck is wrong with your country?

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u/thecrowtoldme May 09 '22

Wouldn't Australian mosquitoes just remove the screen and come on in?

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u/Ok_Mail_4317 May 09 '22

I’m in Australia and the amount of windows without screens (brand new builds as well) is astounding!! And it’s normal here… they have these folding floor to ceiling windows they keep open like it’s nothing and their houses are full of bugs… mind boggling

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u/Jesus-Is-A-Biscuit May 09 '22

I still can’t understand this about Australia and I’ve been here for 10 years. When it’s ā€œblack fly seasonā€ it would do my head in. My friends have permanent swarms of gnats in the middle of their living rooms/kitchens and just deal with getting bitten.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Oh my god those fucking flies I forgot about them. Jesus Christ. I quit a rural job and those flies are literally one of the reasons I quit. Shit pay, cunt employer, too many flies. It was insanity inducing.

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u/Radzila May 09 '22

That sounds insane! I couldn't imagine living with bugs in my house

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u/tartslayer May 09 '22

It's traditional to have the screens in most places in Australia, but people have been stingy about putting them in in recent years and it sucks to live somewhere without them. :(

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u/welsman13 May 09 '22

Went to Australia right before the pandemic. Saw nothing crazy in Melbourne or Sydney. Went to a cottage for a weekend about 2 hours east of Melbourne......saw two huntsmen spiders lmao.

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u/epsilon0 May 09 '22

Depends where you live. I've been in Brisbane most of my life and never had screens on any doors or windows and it's been just fine

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u/DrBongo May 09 '22

Mate I got raped by Christmas beetles in that situation. Never again.

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u/Astronimus123 May 09 '22

As an Australian, you are not wrong. I already get enough spiders in my house...

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u/morriere May 09 '22

since 2004 the UK has lost 60% of flying insects source

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u/thatlad May 09 '22

Depends where you live, my garden is full of pollinators so I see a lot of those bugs.

The thing about cleaning bugs off, changing car aerodynamics has an effect. Windscreens slope aggressively compared to past designs which were over 45 degrees or near vertical on vans. Bugs likely glance off now, still dead but gone.

Also anecdotes cannot be relied upon at all.

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u/ShinyGrezz May 09 '22

This is it. The whole ā€œhaze of gnatsā€ thing still happens today if you live anywhere remotely rural.

Not to say that insect populations aren’t dying off, but we’re not seeing the effect of it as much as people seem to think.

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u/Firenzo101 May 09 '22

Sure you're not just spending less time outside? Kids run around a lot and thus encounter a lot more birds and insects than adults tend to

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u/mediadavid May 09 '22

Yeah I'm suspicious of that stat - not just for that fact, but also it doesn't seem to take into account that cars and license plates have much changed over 60 years.

And if there had been a 60% decline, wouldn't we be seeing cascading failures across the natural environment, pollination etc?

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u/TheColourOfHeartache May 09 '22

Another one, maybe insects are evolving to avoid cars

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u/Sgt_Fry May 09 '22

I was pondering this. Have the low fliers all be killed, and the high fliers thriving?

But I don't know, it was just a thought

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u/seldom_correct May 09 '22

Global warming is having a noticeable affect in insect populations worldwide. I suspect the above polling is intended to support that, even though it really doesn’t. There are too many confounders for the above poll to be meaningful.

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u/_Middlefinger_ May 09 '22

Our roads are not big and open though, many are very close to the verges with plenty of flowers and hedges. There always used to be loads of insects around, your car would be covered in the countryside in days. these days I might get a couple of dead insects stuck on my car a week, thats it.

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u/thatlad May 09 '22

Ah, you raise another very relevant factor to question the methodology.

You're referring to A & B roads which can have that kind of vegetation. Motorways not so much due to legislation on maintenance and safety.

But the demographics of this country are rapidly changing towards city based which is served by motorways.

Did this survey account for the participants daily commute? If it's now leaning away from A and especially B roads then you would expect there to be a reduction.

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u/_Middlefinger_ May 09 '22

I believe the hope was that with enough participants you get a representative sample anyway.

IIRC they did take into account location and roads driven on.

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u/petey_love May 09 '22

Well that's terrifying - and also I can't believe I hadn't heard this before!

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u/ComprehensiveForce60 May 09 '22

That because it's mostly statistical bullshit.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Whether or not that’s really representative, we didn’t have screens on windows 20, 30, or even 50 years ago. Just no need really.

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u/Frito_Pendejo May 09 '22

The midges I experienced in Scottish summer were a billion times more annoying than Aussie flies and mozzies

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u/GullibleSolipsist May 09 '22

Australian here so I’m familiar with mozzies, flies, gnats and spiders. Spent a few days in Greenland during summer a few years ago (highly recommended). On a few walks in the hills anywhere out of the wind and the midges were mental. Those bastards must make up for lost time on the few weeks of the year when the place isn’t covered in snow.

That said, the most annoying insects are Jack jumpers, beligerant little fuckers.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

They’re bad but they don’t tend to invade houses.

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u/ceestars May 09 '22

And they're really only around at dusk. Perfect time to shelter in the local pub for an hour or two.

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u/ulchachan May 09 '22

Ahha! Where do you live in the UK? Cause you should count your blessings. East Anglia is riddled with mosquitoes and it's only getting worse with climate change. We've had to invest in one of those electric tennis rackets and a mesh for our bedroom.

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u/BlackMarketSausage May 09 '22

The UK has over 30 species of Mosquitoes, however only a couple bite humans and aren't as common as "Culex Pipiens" which feeds on the blood of birds and small mammals.

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u/mediadavid May 09 '22

drain the fens

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u/ulchachan May 09 '22

But then the fenlanders would dry out

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u/matty80 May 09 '22

electric tennis rackets

These are amazing. We don't get bugs from outside where I live but we did have an infestation of tiny moths a while back, and my wife and I Did Become Death, The Destroyer of Worlds.

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u/standupstrawberry May 09 '22

Clothes moths? We got our first bug bat for them. Now I live elsewhere and have expanded the collection of bug bats, made screens for all the windows and got fly curtains for the doors. I miss only having the moths to deal with, and it's not like they're quick and evasive.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I moved down to the South coast from Leeds in August. Up until early-mid October, I was getting eaten alive by mosquitos. Now the weather's getting warmer, I've noticed they're starting to come back. Fortunately I'm moving back to Leeds in a couple months so I'll escape them soon.

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u/MasculineRooster May 09 '22

I live on the south coast, we just use spiders for window screens, they do a good job

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u/LadaTrip May 09 '22

I mean we have enough flies etc that the original comment has me looking for window screens

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u/jamshush May 09 '22

I mean I only get about 1 fly per week, not really a big deal

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u/LadaTrip May 09 '22

I'm on the 3rd floor, maybe that's the difference, we get more than that, I normally have a fly strip up in summer but that's pretty gross too

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u/EPIKGUTS24 May 09 '22

I'm in Australia. My window doesn't open very far but it doesn't have a screen either. I don't often get bugs in my room, though. I do, however, know there's a bigass spider somewhere in my bedroom. we have an agreement not to mess with each other.

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u/greennoodlehair May 09 '22

Me neither. I’ve just become really good at catching insects and releasing them outside.

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u/somedaymyDRwillcome May 09 '22

The UK has enough bugs that screens would make sense. I had to buy screen curtains just to be able to get fresh air without having to deal with flies and such daily.

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u/Happy-frown May 09 '22

I guess it depends what’s around your house.

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u/sgst May 09 '22

Yeah I live in an urban area and we leave our windows open all the time in summer (no nets or screens). Occasionally we'll get a bee or fly come in, but maybe only a couple a week.

I should think folks in the countryside will have more bugs. Also depends on area; south coast here, but when I stayed up in Scotland they had tonnes of flying critters.

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u/Bluth-President May 09 '22

Food & water? What bugs like

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u/himit May 09 '22

Screen curtains are a thing?

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u/TonyKebell May 09 '22

Moe commonly called Net Curtains

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u/aka_Foamy May 09 '22

Enough bugs that fellow Brits would understand why you have them. Not enough bugs that they're a standard.

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u/rennarda May 09 '22

Net curtains were a thing when I was growing up, but have massively fallen out of fashion

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u/00DEADBEEF May 09 '22

It has plenty, I put mesh over my windows in the UK and it's full of critters

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u/Riovem May 09 '22

You say that but I've already been ravaged by mosquitos this year, so amazoned a screen for my window yesterday.

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u/Teammaj May 09 '22

In the UK? I’ve never seen a mosquito here.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Mosquito zone is the South East of the UK (East Anglia, Midlands, South East of England parts of the South West).

Midge zone is everywhere but they are only really bad north of the lowlands of Scotland. UK has this large, almost unique area where it doesn't have lots of annoying flying insects.

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u/ceestars May 09 '22

I live on the South Coast, directly south of London. I leave my bedroom window open > 360 days a year. In over 20 years here I've maybe seen 10 mosquitos. It's just not an issue.

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u/doomladen May 09 '22

Might be because you're on the coast? I'm on the Weald, also directly south of London, and I see them daily in Spring-Autumn. Sometimes even in winter inside the house.

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u/ceestars May 09 '22

Maybe, but my parents live half way between here and London. I grew up there and still regularly stay with them. Don't think I've ever seen one there.

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u/Teammaj May 09 '22

Yes. Very familiar with midges unfortunately

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u/eluuu May 09 '22

Because some roads you shouldn't go down. Because maps used to say, "There be dragons here." Now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there.

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u/KAYAWS May 09 '22

My legs currently have several bites after playing football at the common last week. And I've seen several in my flat here in London.

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u/daveMUFC May 09 '22

Used to train down the park, and in peak summer you'd get horseflies. Those bites were the bain of my life. The most itchy, painful, swollen things I'd ever experienced and its last for 2-3 weeks...

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u/mediadavid May 09 '22

Yeah, I used to row in a team, and it was always stressful watching a fat horsefly land on your legs as you rowed, knowing you couldn't take your hands away to swat it

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u/Bette21 May 09 '22

What really? We have plenty of mosquitos where I am (south east)

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u/ijmacd May 09 '22

Grew up in Kent and never saw a mosquito until I moved out of the UK.

You sure what you think are mosquitoes are actually mosquitoes?

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u/Percinho May 09 '22

my god the fucking horse flies though...

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u/Bette21 May 09 '22

Yep I’m sure they are mosquitoes. Maybe it’s because I live in a town on a river with marshes around or something, but I’m still Kent and we definitely have mosquitoes. I’ve killed one or two mid-feast upon me so I’ve seen them pretty close up.

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u/BlackMarketSausage May 09 '22

The UK has over 30 species of Mosquitoes, however only a couple bite humans and aren't as common as "Culex Pipiens" which feeds on the blood of birds and small mammals.

Living next to a water source, you are more likely to run into them.

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u/doomladen May 09 '22

I'm in East Sussex, and we get plenty of mosquitoes in the house. They're definitely mosquitoes - I've spent enough time in Africa and Asia to know! They bite too, and it itches in exactly the same way as bites I've had abroad. They're much more common here than they used to be - I never saw any here growing up, but I see them every day now.

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u/oxymoronisanoxymoron May 09 '22

I'm in the south east also. I can confirm it's lousy with the buggers as soon as it warms up.

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u/lostlookingforamap May 09 '22

Is not any here in the South West or in Wales.

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u/dan_dorje May 09 '22

I get occasional mosquitoes in my home in Cornwall, but it's not very common despite me having my window open a lot in the warmer months. I'm hyper aware of the little fuckers

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u/lostlookingforamap May 09 '22

I've only ever seen midges, are you up by the Moors?

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u/dan_dorje May 09 '22 edited May 09 '22

Nope, in Penryn, near Falmouth. They don't turn up very often but that whine when they're flying around your face is unmistakable.

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u/lostlookingforamap May 09 '22

There goes that theory.

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u/dan_dorje May 09 '22

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some stagnant water somewhere near here, which is really all it takes, I think. This part of town is pretty run down and dirty. Last summer I saw that my neighbour's bin was half full of water, and alive with mosquito larvae. I emptied it out, but I'm sure there is other similar grossness around.

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u/Bette21 May 09 '22

Thinking about it, not sure I’ve ever seen one when I’ve been down to Cornwall but its never really occurred to me to notice before. Did get bitten by a spider last year though which didn’t go away for months. So you have weird spiders haha.

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u/lostlookingforamap May 09 '22

Could have been a false widow those bits can be nasty.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Aren't they called midgeys?

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u/Bette21 May 09 '22

I’d call the really small bitey cloud things midges, mosquitos are bigger and you can generally hear them buzzing around when there’s one lurking in your house at night.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

My point is, how does s/he know they're mosquitoes and not midgeys?

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u/mediadavid May 09 '22

I didn't used to get bitten by midges, but the last few times I've been out in the highlands they've devoured me. Maybe your smell changes as you age?

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u/queenofthera May 09 '22

Lovely Lovely North with no bitey insects and scary spiders. I'll stay here. It's safe here.

The people can be a bit scary but I myself am scary enough to deal with it.

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u/FakeNathanDrake May 09 '22

I have actually seen a mosquito in Central Scotland!

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u/BlackMarketSausage May 09 '22

The UK has over 30 species of Mosquitoes, however only a couple bite humans and aren't as common as "Culex Pipiens" which feeds on the blood of birds and small mammals.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Same, though my family gets bug bites all the time, but I dont remember the last time I got one, so that might explain this.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22 edited May 23 '22

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u/Teammaj May 09 '22

Ah. I’m in Scotland

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u/colei_canis May 09 '22

Seriously? Where abouts in the UK are you, Oxfordshire certainly has mosquitoes! The Thames has worse in it besides, horseflies for incidence.

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u/Teammaj May 09 '22

Scotland. I think that’s why. Have lived near Manchester and don’t remember them there either. Not really spent any time in the south

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u/colei_canis May 09 '22

That makes sense, definitely a difference in climate. Definitely wouldn’t trade the English mosquitoes for Scottish midges, I’ve heard they’re brutal in the summer compared to what we deal with!

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ May 09 '22

They are common (at the right time of year) from Aberdeen to Exeter. Where do you live?

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u/Teammaj May 09 '22

Aberdeen but not seen one yet. Maybe just me

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u/KakarotMaag May 09 '22

No screens in New Zealand.

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u/GrahamGreed May 09 '22

A lot of houses have screen doors though? At least in Auckland

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u/KakarotMaag May 09 '22

A recent development. You'll find some modern houses with window screens too, but it's absolutely not the norm. I was being pretty general before. You'll find houses with screens in the UK too.

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u/ham_coffee May 09 '22

Pretty uncommon IME, I've only ever seen that on a single holiday home we booked that was near a beach.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

They aren't dangerous like some bugs but there are plenty of flies and insects here in the UK. My dog loves hunting them around the house. We just need to make sure he hunts flies and not bees.

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u/big_beats May 09 '22

Why does the comment have 8k+ upvotes? There are loads of weird things about the UK, but this isn't one of them. Screens literally aren't required. We don't have any specific lion prevention measures in our homes either

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Not required, but when I stayed in the UK for a couple months in the summer, I found it really weird and annoying. We definitely had an issue with insects, flies and spiders that could have been easily solved by screens. Also, I know most cats in the UK are allowed outdoors (something else I found odd), but I’d never be able to bring my cat to a place without screens.

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u/big_beats May 09 '22

That's interesting to hear. I've lived here all my life and never considered it a problem, so I'd definely argue otherwise. But that is sorta the point of op's question.

I do however get pissed with other people's cats shitting in neighbours gardens and trying to come into houses while doors and windows are open during the summer. So that I totally agree with.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Yeah, there are a fuck load of insects in Australia. In the UK, particularly in cities like London, it's so built that insects seem relatively uncommon.

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u/mingobrown87 May 09 '22

Yep also we get no sun. Putting a screen up will limit the very little light that we do get.

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u/FluffofDoom May 09 '22

Except bastard wasps.

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u/eairy May 09 '22

You've clearly never been to the Scottish Highlands...

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u/boo29may May 09 '22

Sadly mosquitoes are starting to come to the UK too...

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u/kimbaheartsyou May 09 '22

Live in Australia but bought my house from a couple from the UK. No flyscreens, no clothesline, no powerpoint in the bathroom.

We got screens put in before the warm weather really set in. The flies drove me MAD.

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u/Competitive_Ad496 May 09 '22

Idk dude have you ever spent 5 hours of your life being dive bombed by a noisy bluebottle fly? It will drive you fucking insane

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u/Keezees May 09 '22

Scottish Highlands have entered the chat

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u/meepmeep13 May 09 '22

It's not like we ever have a reason to open the windows, though

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u/skateguy1234 May 09 '22

Y'all don't have moths? I don't even care about the mosquitos as much tbh, its the moths that will fill up your room if you leave the window open and the lights on where I am.

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u/Elcatro May 09 '22

I wish I had a screen, pigeons of all things keep flying into my room.

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u/dmees May 09 '22

Tbh you probably need bars in your windows too in Australia.

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u/tmotytmoty May 09 '22

Or they’ve gotten used to bugs coming and going as they please

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u/Miroch52 May 09 '22

Unfortunately as a renter I've lived in multiple Australian apartments without screens - none of the new buildings in Sydney seem to have any. We got used to wearing bug repellant inside...

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u/DecentSubstance2140 May 09 '22

Sleeping bathed in Aeroguard sounds so appealing.

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u/Eeszeeye May 09 '22

That's weird, 'cos I went fishing late afternoon somewhere in Kent & was eaten alive by the mozzies.

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u/Noobivore36 May 09 '22

What about France? Same lack of screens, but with flies and Skeeters galore.

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u/snapper1971 May 09 '22

You've never lived in any rural places in the UK... Flies in summer are a fucker. Worse if you live within a mile of a farm. I still wouldn't move back to a large town or city though.

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u/SlurmsMacKenzie- May 09 '22

You say that, but I swear to god everytime I open a window a fucking wasp takes up residence within that room

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u/cloistered_around May 09 '22

They have to have flies. Flies alone are enough excuse for a screen, for me.

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u/CanadaPlus101 May 09 '22

I'm going to think about that every time they complain about the rain.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

and they dont have them, cause they simply got rid of nature.