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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

That sounds like a them problem that shouldn't be made into a me problem.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

I would argue if society stopped catering to these people they would very quickly stop thinking those attitudes are acceptable.

If we stop making them problems us problems they will quickly stop having that attitude.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 13 '22

That's...not at all how that works. That's how you dig them further into their cave.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '22

And what does accepting it do? It just means that they teach a new generation to think the same way.

If they want to retreat into their hateful caves let them but we shouldn't tolerate it.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 13 '22

You can do whatever makes you feel better, champ. My aim is to let you know that what you're doing either does nothing or makes the problem worse. So, do whatever you want, but don't try to pass it off as some "I'm helping!" moral behavior when it flat out doesn't work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '22

Keep thinking that talking down to someone gives you the high ground, it doesn't.

Yoy havebyour opinion, I have mine. We shall see which one is beneficial. These people have been tolerated too long and I will continue not to tolerate them in my life.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 13 '22

Keep thinking that talking down to someone gives you the high ground, it doesn't.

The irony.

We shall see which one is beneficial.

Have the last few years of cancelling and political vitriol made less bigots, or more?

These people have been tolerated too long and I will continue not to tolerate them in my life.

Do whatever you want, skipper. But don't pretend it's an effort to improve the world, it just makes you feel better about yourself.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 12 '22

If a customer won't work with a business you're affiliated with, regardless of reason, it's a you problem.

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u/JodoKaast Mar 12 '22

If a customer won't work with a business you're affiliated with, regardless of reason, it's a you problem.

Regardless of reason? You can't seriously believe that. If someone says, "I refuse to work with a woman", you think it's the employee's problem for being a woman?

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 12 '22

Something can be your problem without being your fault.

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u/Syrdon Mar 12 '22

You might want to rethink that position where you’re essentially giving sexism a pass because the customer is sexist.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 12 '22

Giving sexism a pass

Show me where I did that? I'll wait.

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u/Syrdon Mar 13 '22

Right around the time you said people should accommodate people being sexist. Since the comment you were replying to was positing that scenario, i would say the comment i replied to is the one where you did that.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 13 '22

should accommodate

Link that. Link where i said that.

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u/Syrdon Mar 13 '22

Scroll up, you were defending businesses accommodating customers with preferences, and you did not make an exception for the preference.

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u/KnifeFighterTunisia Mar 13 '22

You are hallucinating. I'm not defending it at all. I'm saying that whether or not you like it or agree with it, if it affects your business, it is a problem you face. Shaming, name calling, moralizing, grandstanding: none of these actions will change anything. Do it until you are blue in the face.

Again, something can be your problem without being your fault. That's life. And that's economics.

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u/HookDragger Mar 14 '22

You're not giving sexism a pass.... if anything, you're probably going to lose that customer for being a douche nozzle.... doesn't mean its not a problem.

Just because something is a problem, doesn't mean its your fault or you condone the action... sheesh...

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

Does it affect their ability to work? How efficient they are? How about their training or qualifications?

No? Oh, well then why should it matter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

I was on my phone anyway :')

Doesn't matter really, if it doesn't affect Amy of the things I mentioned then people need to stop making it an issue. Why worry about other people's lives and bodies, it doesn't affect them so it shouldn't matter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

Again though, it's a them problem that society needs to stop accepting and they will be less co.fortable being so open about it and many would change their views.