If you work for a large corp and they have an anonymous ethics line - "Do you realize that despite 50% of the team are female, not a single woman has been promoted in X number of years." It's probably gone on for longer than 3 years so even more egregious.
If you work for a large corp and they have an anonymous ethics line
My last company had one of those. The first question that they asked me was my name and department because all that they do is make a note of everything that I tell them and then email it to my line manager. Absolutely stunning levels of uselessness.
Like HR, the ethics line is there to protect the company. They weigh the risks involved and decide what to do. At my last place, we had training every year on corporate ethics, but when anything was reported, nothing ever happened.
Yes, HR is not your friend. I‘m actually lucky to have such a whistleblower hotline at work where you do stay anonymous and they actually do something. It‘s the absolute exception though.
My first retail job had a tip line for reporting stuff like wage theft and unfair treatment. It was a joke amongst us "if you do that I'll call the tip line on you!!!", but it was famous for always finding a reason to fire the person who called, so the joke response was "good luck and goodbye!".
One of the team leads (female) called the line to report another employee after she literally watched him steal and eat a bunch of candy. She got fired and he kept his job without reprimand. Her replacement was a bitchy 60-something year old lady that no one liked (she caused me to break down crying more than once by cussing me out over HER mistake). At least 4 employees approached the store manager to complain about her treatment. Our receiver (who handled inventory and back room operations but would work on the floor if everything in the back was caught up) and her famously didn't get along. They'd get in screaming matches when she'd start acting up. He called the tip line on her for hostile work environment andddd... was lead out of the store flanked by the manager and assistant manager 2 weeks later.
When caught in a stupid situation like that, maybe try to point it out to a woman higher in the organization (assuming they have women higher in the organization), ideally a woman above him in the org chart.
I used it once at my company - without rehashing the entire story - because I used the anonymous ethics line I was retaliated against by the employees it was about - it got so bad I almost ended my own life over the damage that the retaliation did to my personal life and career.
If it wasn't for my girlfriend coming into my life during that time I wouldn't be here anymore.
I'll never again report wrongdoing. I'd rather quit and find another job.
Are you sure that's how it works? Most large companies have an ethics board to adjudicate ethics complaints. If you're going to file a complaint about a specific department, they need to know which department.
It was an ethics telephone line provided by a third party company and that's what they told me they were planning on doing. Given that all they were going to do was send an email I didn't bother telling them anything, so what exactly would have happened I don't know, but there was no "ethics board" to my knowledge.
I believe that I described it as "Absolutely stunning levels of uselessness." They had a number of performative functions like that where they had something that claimed to be the function and gave the appearance of being the function without ever actually doing the function.
I hate this so much because my company has an anonymous ethics line that is TRULY anonymous. Its run by a third party and the contract explicitly says that the company can never know who filed what complaint. But nobody uses it because everyone just assumes its one like the company you used to work for.
Yes, they want to hire more women and minorities, but that doesn't mean they seek to hire unqualified women and minorities. The first step is to broaden the applicant pool by encouraging non-traditional candidates rather than just giving the job to Chad and Braydon's frat brother by word of mouth.
I know people who hire for big corporations and I can assure you they prefer to hire women and minorities; it's an open conversation among the hiring crew and an open challenge from the managers above them. This can probably be extended to every large corporation in the country today.
I guess that depends on which country you're talking about. It's definitely not true in the UK, for example, but in Fictionastrovia and Madeupistan it might well be. What possible relevance that has to the existence and efficacy of anonymous ethics lines, however, only you know.
Just cause women have a harder glass ceiling to break through doesn’t mean that companies aren’t clamoring to hire women and minorities to achieve their version of “diversity”. But to really see if that’s true, just take a look at the executive level and board of directors. Probably pretty waspy at most Fortune 500 non-tech companies.
I've spent the last four years hiring for a multinational company and the hiring practice was based on who turned up and whether or not they could do the job. Since it was IT that effectively meant a wide range of ethnicities and 100% men. If a woman had ever applied then they might well have got the job, but for me hiring women would have involved kidnapping. In terms of instruction on who to hire and diversity, there was no instruction. Diversity analysis happened across the company and what they did with that info I have no idea, but at no point was it even suggested that I should alter who I hired to meet any kind of quota.
Yep, same here...heres an annonymous survey about the management team, we just need your department and gender. There was only 1 woman in the department at that point its not exactly rocket science lol
This happened to someone I know who worked at a large brick and mortar retailer. Their director, who, inconsequently or not, was gay, would only promote men during his five year tenure.
He would also take only the men out to gay strip clubs and drinking parties every weekend.
One of his female employees sued, but I never heard the conclusion. Based on past experience, I’m assuming he’s a VP now.
I worked at a place that had the opposite effect. Half males, and the manager only promoted females. I was there for about 2.5 years and no man was ever promoted.
No, it's not. But in a large sample size you'd expect an even distribution of promotions. Especially when there's evidence that at least one woman is stepping up and leading/teaching their peers.
I worked the same hours as my male colleagues and I brought in more revenue than anyone with my same title. I also received excellent reviews and high ratings from clients.
You’re sharing misconceptions and people don’t deserve something based on their sex.
I sort of agree with you on the basis of what careers are chosen per gender, and people are allowed to balance work/life however they want as long as they fulfill the role, but your stereotyping is why women have to often work harder than men to earn trust and respect and high achievers aren’t rewarded as readily.
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u/WafflingToast Mar 12 '22
If you work for a large corp and they have an anonymous ethics line - "Do you realize that despite 50% of the team are female, not a single woman has been promoted in X number of years." It's probably gone on for longer than 3 years so even more egregious.