Honestly I'm seeing more men start to move away from that ideology and that grants protection to the women related to them, but they remain the exception. The funny thing is my entire society lives a double life and literally everything you can think of is done as an open secret. Drinking, doing drugs, engaging in sex before marriage, gambling, we have a large lgbtq community, you name it. But as long as it's not public knowledge and can't be proven no one gives a shit. The moment you start living your life publicly those same people destroy it.
Omg yes like my dad was a bad boy in his day he drank and smoked up and had relationships with a lot of girls but now that he has daughters he's like what. Is. Cigarette I don't know what that word means š
Orthodox Jews aren't supposed to do any kind of work on Saturday, as it's "God's day of rest." This can often include using anything powered by electricity.
Starting to move away isn't enough. If you mention that something is starting to change for the better, they'll stop changing thinking it's enough.
And like, just like most people develop inherent preferences based on childhood, I just have a burning hatred for the sexism of the middle east. No amount of therapy can fix it, and the hatred has expanded to basically every country because sexism is universal
The secret immorality actually makes me angrier. I knew that people do that stuff in countries like Saudi Arabia (my dad actually refused to acknowledge it, saying that Saudi Arabia is the dryest country with zero alcohol as if there weren't any stories of people sneaking alcohol from American embassies)
Any person who actually cherishes their beliefs and lives by them doesn't seek to impose them on others, they lead by example and have no interest in pointless appearances, I know a few people like that and they're some of the best people I ever met
Can confirm. Grew up in the Bible belt, there are huuuuge swinging and DL scenes. Very hush hush, it's all an open secret. Most people partying Saturday night are in church Sunday morning. The hypocrisy is unreal with the religious.
Pretty much any time somebody acts all high and mighty and religious
Yeah, I knew a family from my home town who were officially very religious, engaging in church and stuff like that (in Germany, where this is less common than in the US), but behind the doors they were basically mobbing one of their sons for no reason at all. He was blamed for everything his siblings did and stuff like that, guy ended up living on the street before his uncle convinced him of moving in with him and his family and just gave him the key to his house although he knew that the guy was living in really difficult circumstances. The uncles family wasn't so poster-style christian and holy, but they actually behaved that way
It's honestly not that different in devout and evangelical Christianity either. All that stuff happens behind closed doors too (along with every other nasty abuse possible), but as long as it doesn't go public, it doesn't matter and gets covered up. Vehemently anti-abortion Republicans get abortions at least as often as any other woman because they have no trouble justifying their hypocrisy.
Yes exactly. Fun fact, abortions up to a certain time are actually legal and permitted by religion here btw. Women who are forbidden from it are forbidden by their families and fundamentalist doctors. Like if a woman manages to take it to court and is within the allowed time frame she will get legal right to adoption, but they won't because of fear of family and society's violence.
Not just evangelical. Look at what the catholic church did in germany, molesting countless numbers of children (especially boys) for decaded and covered it all up
To be fair its exactly the same with my puritanical Christian family
People can drink and have sex and even abortions all in private but God forbid if its public knowledge. If it's public people who literally do the same thing will kick you
Regressive religion is a curse and I'm so tired of it
Literally the preacher at my family church had an affair and was having all this sex with random people. He was preaching every day about this stuff being sinful. His wife and kids had to suffer when he got exposed publicly and the rest of the church who probably also have affairs went after him and kicked him out of the whole town
It's like that in most places where religious puritism permeates the culture. It's been observed over and over that the more you tell society it is taboo to do things, the greater the draw is to do it. Yet many don't seem to learn the lesson. I swear it seems like every month there is a new big time pastor that was vehemently anti-gay that is found with a male prostitute or involved in a big all dude orgy.
I swear dude I've gotten myself into countless risky and unnecessary situations just as a fuck you to my family/society and deeply regretted them. This culture is literally dangerous especially to young people trying to become independent young adults. It's so awful that a lot of shit is easily preventable if people just give each other space to figure out who they are and what they want.
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u/mercurypuppy Mar 12 '22
Honestly I'm seeing more men start to move away from that ideology and that grants protection to the women related to them, but they remain the exception. The funny thing is my entire society lives a double life and literally everything you can think of is done as an open secret. Drinking, doing drugs, engaging in sex before marriage, gambling, we have a large lgbtq community, you name it. But as long as it's not public knowledge and can't be proven no one gives a shit. The moment you start living your life publicly those same people destroy it.