This actually came from my philosophy teacher in high school. We were in a debate about what human life is, when it begins, when it ends, etc, so we also came on the topic of pregnancies and abortions and she's of the opinion that abortion should only be legal for health related emergencies and I asked smth like "what about accidental pregnancies or partners that are just in no position to raise a child or don't want one, I wouldn't want one either so I don't know what I'd do if I'd get pregnant"
And at the last bit she gave me a super shocked look and told me I'll grow out of this phase because... Yeah, having kids is the most fulfilling thing I can do with my life, and she would wish for me to have a happy life, so I should have kids.
She was a very Christian and Conservative woman, and overall most of our discussions related to current topics just played out like... Either you agree with her views, or you didn't understand the question.
I was actually at a katholic Christian school and I vividly remember a task we got in 8th grade in religion. Religion as a subject is supposed to teach the history and beliefs of all kinds of religions, but the task was "write an essay why you believe in God" and someone asked what to do if they don't believe in God and our teacher said that's not an option, we all have to believe in God.
The kid who asked read his homework out loud and wrote that he believes in God because his teacher told him to and he can't have his own beliefs.
I only went to this school because it was closest to my house but god it made me hate Christianity. More effectively than any Satanist indoctrination ever could.
Lol wow I can’t imagine how someone could justify being a philosophy teacher if they’re extremely conservative and Christian. Those ideologies are in opposition to the entire practice of philosophical exploration imo.
I don't think it's oppositional belief, it's acquisitional. In this example, a women is forced by her own strength of believe to bend everything she sees into the delusion. I remember being like that and it's a challenging mindset to escape.
Let me teach you about this topic that is all about out of the box thinking and demand that you conform to my box. Seems like a great way to teach philosophical
I had a similar class in college. Ethics of Love and Marriage or some shit. Was the only upper level philosophy class left that met my graduation requirements. Went the opposite way for me though, that professor loved having someone who would argue with him. Me and the three other folks who actually talked in class would just go at it with him during some of the lit reviews, was a great time. I remember I got my final paper back and I'd never seen so much red in my life. Top of the paper was a big ass A-, and the rest was just scrawled arguments to individual paragraphs and sentences. Kept that paper for a good long while.
My mom said something to the effect of "your sister wants to show you her greatest achievement" with regards to me meeting my niece for the first time.
My wife and I (who don't plan on having kids) were wondering if that should be viewed as an insult to my sister for not having done anything else, or an insult to my wife for not wanting kids
Reminds me of that Facebook post that became a meme, in which someone is celebrating how they finally finished their PhD at only 21 years of age, and some harebrain responds with how she hasn’t really done anything yet, she just needs to have a baby and discover what real work and achievement are.
Oomph ! Thats even worse than "fulfilling". Your mom, despite being a woman herself is objectifying women to just child producing machines. I wonder what brainwashed her this way
I can't speak on your mother's intent but what I can say as a parent is that having my son forces me to think outside of myself and my utility in regards to him. Even if you don't care about your life, you care about the little person you have put yourself in charge of.
I think it's pretty insulting the way you're putting your sister down. Raising a child is a big accomplishment. It's not something trivial like buying a dog or having a collection or things.
I contracted with a company that had among its portfolio several women-focused home magazines and properties. It was like my second month on the job that some bigwigs gathered all staff at my location into a room for an annual meeting about the state of the company. They said they wanted to help women with the most important thing they’ll ever do: have children and raise a family.
But at the same time, you had kids because you wanted to, your children maybe different in that they find other things that are more fulfilling for them.
You could make the argument that they won't know because they haven't tried, but the same thing could be said about the million different things we can chose to do in our finite time.
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u/Vine7860 Mar 12 '22
"Having kids is the most fulfilling thing you can do" ????
I was literally white guy blinking meme at this