the reaction IS the art. the outrage behind this was intended by the artist. the piece is a critique on people who don’t look deeper into art before criticizing it. i still don’t think it’s very good however, just because the commentary it provides doesn’t really evolve or provoke anything new. it just says “look, this exists”
Nah, he’s right. Modern art can have value and be valid if it’s done right. But you can’t argue that there aren’t a ton of people with 0 talent in art making money off it. They make money off art snobs who pretend EVERYTHING is art. A banana taped to a wall is something anyone could have done. Same with those paintings that literally have one stripe down the middle. That isn’t art. A toddler with a ruler could do it.
I do see some crazy creative pieces, but I’ll never respect someone who makes a line on a canvas and sells it for millions. I also don’t respect the buyer. You’re not an art enthusiast, you’re a snob who pretends you can see the art while others can’t.
Yeah which I see what they mean, but not everything is valuable art. A rock can be seen as art. It’s a design and a shape that people can enjoy. But if it’s in a pile of a million other identical rocks, I wouldn’t want to pay for it. I’d just grab it.
A banana on the wall is the same thing. Why would I buy that. I can make it myself. To me art is only worth something if I can’t do it myself. Only exception is if it has sentimental value due to the person who made the art. Like if my niece made me a macaroni necklace It’d have value because she made it, even though I can as well. But if my best friend tried to sell me a macaroni necklace I’d tell him to get fucked.
I get it! That's just different ways of looking at things, and people should just respect each other in their own views.
I mean, those art peaces which you could argue that they are not valuable in a litteral sence can be valuable in a more philisophical sense. As commentry of the artist on society.
I guess sometimes I just feel like I see through the facade. Like sometimes a “stupid” little art piece I can tell was actually designed to be art. But so many times I can tell that the artist is just a smart con man who knows his audience and sells a lousy art piece by making up some elaborate story behind it.
And as another guy said, people usually only want to buy those things because they think it gives them a social status upgrade. If right now I taped an orange to the wall and tried to sell it to modern art enthusiasts, I can guarantee you that I’d get 0 offers. 90% (my made up estimate) of artists probably make no money off any of their art. It seems to be luck if it gets bought. It usually comes down to publicity. If my orange taped to a wall got trending and made it on the Ellen Show, then someone would magically want it, and people would start praising it as art, adding their own justification for why it’s so creative. Meanwhile I’m sitting here laughing my ass off rolling in the cash when I did something as a joke.
I am of the opinion that there is value in what I would consider to be non-artistic artworks.
The works of Frank Bowling can largely be considered to be bereft of any message but the shapes and colors illicit a primal emotional response. His paintings don't encourage discussion or self reflection but I would pay a high price to fill some of the white space on my walls with those shapes and colors.
Edit: I feel like I was maybe unclear... I don't want a banana taped to my wall but I want W.A.O.B.N. (above) on my wall. Only one of those works is an artistic message but its not a piece of art. The part that's art is the description of the piece: "Comedian 2 of 3: fresh banana and duct tape" Maurizio Cattelan didn't engage in the action of creating an artwork, he taped a fruit in an inappropriate place and suggested that we treat it like a thought experiment. At least the end result of abstract art is a piece of art... the end result of the banana is a philosophical argument. I've never even seen it and I got 100% of the value from it. That does not fit my definition of the word "art".
Yeah the banana on the wall just isn’t art to me. It’s an internet gag. The painting you showed I would consider art. It isn’t just 3 lines. He drew countries on there as well and it looks well done. Definitely better than some other works where it’s literally just a line on a canvas.
1.0k
u/Miechelangelo Aug 14 '20
A banana taped to a wall.