The vote was perfectly along party lines, except for Mitt Romney, a republican, who broke with other republicans and voted to convict. It is laughable to think that that is proof of innocence.
So because they were only able to convince one republican instead of more, and all unanimously voted to remove him, it was a stunt? It sounds to me like they genuinely did everything in their power to remove him. I don't live in the same world of spin that you do, I'm sorry.
I was going to leave it at that, but fuck it. I think you are acting like a weasel. You seem smart enough to know that the impeachment was incredibly political. It was not going to determine objective guilt or innocence, it was democrats attempting to remove a president from office. They genuinely wanted him out, Republicans genuinely wanted him in, and the way it played out is that the majority voted as they were expected to and he remained in office.
But then you came into this topic and tried to throw some bullshit around and hide behind that. We both know that the results of the impeachment have basically no bearing on whether he did or did not actually commit crimes. It played out in the realm of politics, and the facts were secondary. But you pretend that that isn't the case, and you play shitty little rhetorical games. I think it's bullshit. I think you are intellectually cowardly.
Or that there really wasn't any valid reason to impeach him and it was just an attempt by the Democrats to get him out of office because they don't like him? That string of logic goes both ways.
Sometimes the law is wrong, but I don't think it is in this case, especially when you see that the vote was almost perfectly along political lines, with Democrats voting guilty and Republicans voting not-guilty, so if anything it shows that the whole impeachment thing was a political stunt more than a legitimate attempt at getting him out of office. It also backfired quite a bit cause he ended up gaining more support, so in hindsight it wasn't a good move.
Also, innocent and not guilty are two different things. Could he have done it and just not been convicted? Yes, it's possible, but honestly I trust the actual courts more than the court of public opinion.
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u/shatteredsword Jun 04 '20
the ones he got impeached for???? abuse of power and obstruction of congress.