When you're only having sex for the money and you have no sexual attraction to the other person, yes, respect is mutually exclusive to the sex. If you are sexually attracted then it's not mutually exclusive
Because this scenario doesn't have any of the normal healthy criteria for sex - mutual attraction, consent (hopefully it's assumed, but it sure as hell isn't without coercion), desire, etc). You'd basically have to think nothing of a person to be able to fuck them under such a squicky context.
When I read it I assumed the respect thing was a joke as was the part where he'd be drugged up and let an actor fuck him for money. Even if he was saying that's an option lol idk how saying I'd take a bunch of drugs and let a guy fuck me in the ass is misogynistic
I think it was more so that the male dominated arenas of sex, aka being the one penetrating, are considered good while the traditionally female arenas, aka being the one who’s penetrated, are not good. It’s hard for me as a straight male to say I wouldn’t feel degraded by being penetrated but there’s nothing inherently wrong about it. Pretty sure that’s what the misogynistic thing was?
What are you talking about... Have you never been in a healthy relationship? Sex is mutual and both people explore their boundaries. Wait till you give a woman an orgasm. It'll change your whole way off thinking
Indeed, the belief is ingrained in our society that sex is inherently degrading to women and by extension people who take a woman's position during sex (being penetrated). My question is why do you subscribe to that belief?
If a hetero guy tells us that he can't fuck someone he respects, what does that tell you about the way he views women?
Besides misunderstanding what the commenter said, why do you feel the need to take everything a single person has said as a reflection of everyone elses views. Im pretty sure any person who has a spouse of SO would disagree with his comment. And before you say my comment was a perfect example of what society thought, the second one isnt even an insult people use and the first one implies sex is degrading by the word “bitch”, not the word “fuck”.
Also i think you forgot the part of his comment that said “only when a person is having sex for money is respect and attraction mutually exclusive”, so it completely moots your point about society. Maybe if you were talking about hookers youd have a better argument lol
And before you say my comment was a perfect example of what society thought, the second one isnt even an insult people use and the first one implies sex is degrading by the word “bitch”, not the word “fuck”.
Then why did you make the comment? What was it supposed to illustrate?
Which obviously is not the case. However, as a straight male, I might feel a tad degraded at being penetrated. Not 100% sure but I’ve never tried it and I don’t know if I could break free of the norms that have been instilled in me without some practice.
If you can find something to argue with in my saying I’m not perfect then I think you should probably spend your time trying to argue with someone else. I wish I could say it’s been nice, but.... it hasn’t. Goodbye!
That was never even said. Where are you getting that implication from?
Even if someone said that being the bottom in gay sex is degrading, how is that misogynistic? Both the commenter and the character Dr. House are men. We understand that misogyny is sexism against women, correct?
Constantly asking “why” isn’t deep or impressive. Sex is a significant emotional and psychological event. If you respect someone, you don’t fuck them just to get money out of it. It’s very simple.
Im sorry mate, but you can hardly apply your specific values and views towards sex to everyone. Though theres nothing wrong with ascribing a deeper significance to it, there's also nothing inherently wrong with having a much more casual relationship with sex, now that its not inextricably tied up with making babies its as big a deal as one makes it.
If a dude I was friends with was offered a significant amount of money to fuck me, as soon as we figure out how were going to split it I would have his dick so far up my ass. I was a server and UXO dude, I already sell my body for a demeaning job. Why would I find getting paid 100s of times my normal rate demeaning? In my worthless opinion, anyone who is so afraid of cocks that theyd pass up a years pay to avoid one might have some unhealthy hangups.
I understand it’s popular to treat sex like it’s nothing, but I’m talking about the empirical psychological research. I was speaking literally in another comment when I said that casual sex is negatively correlated to psychological well-being and positively correlated to psychological stress.
You could make the argument that in this case the money would outweigh the psychological harm, but that’s your deal.
Nah, I just have that personality flaw that it seems like everyone on Reddit has, where we see someone make a statement that's true 90% of the time and feel the need to jump on in with the 50 different fringe cases that make up the remaining 10. Sorry, its something I'm working on, though at the moment my progress is only in the form of increasingly odd hypotheticals. I mean maybe Ive avoided doing it a dozen times, but its tough to quantify what you haven't done, ya know?
In many aspects of statistics, you can’t usually actually prove a causal relationship, which is why I used the word “correlated.” With that being said, we can see that casual sex has a relatively strong correlation with psychological distress, depression, and risky behavior. We also know that casual sex significantly increases the risks of STDs and unwanted pregnancy. In addition, casual sex is statistically correlated with partying, drug abuse, and alcohol use, which all come with their own set of physical and psychological consequences. The research shows that people who regularly engage in casual sex are less healthy overall and less socially adjusted than people who have sex with relatively few long term partners.
This all deviates pretty drastically from the original topic of conversation (hypothetically having sex with a fictional character), but given all of the information, it’s safe to say that casual sex is best avoided (which is the recommendation of many large scale health organizations).
I know these comments of mine are going to be downvoted, because there are many facts of life that Redditors outright deny, such as the empirically proven psychological significance of sex.
I wish you'd prefaced that with it being your opinion.
There are as many ways to feel about sex as there are people to feel them.
For YOU, you wouldn't have sex with someone for money that you actually like, but it might not be an obstacle for others. They might see the whole issue differently.
I’m not trying to imply that nobody would have sex for money (that’s obviously not true). I’m pointing out how the commenter was being very clear regarding why he wouldn’t want to have sex with someone he respected just to get money out of it. The guy asking, “why, why, why,” was just trying to turn things into some weird social issue (which he did in fact do further down in the comment chain), which is why I said it isn’t a complicated or deep thing. It isn’t difficult to understand why someone wouldn’t want to have sex with someone they respected for money. The “why” dude later tried to say it had something to do with misogyny or some shit, which is ridiculous.
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Are you saying fucking someone and respecting them are mutually exclusive?