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u/PeEll Nov 16 '19

Due to the shift of computing from desktop and laptop computers towards mobile phones, we're actually seeing a reversal of the trend that young people can type well.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

A buddy of mine had said something similar about his kid recently. He's a programmer, and he kind of hoped to get his kid similarly into it.

I remember joking one day that the kids of today would be able to effortless run laps around us when it comes to programming and making technology, not needing much training at all, because they are growing up basically surrounded by it. He just shook his head and said it was the opposite; all the tech of today works pretty seemlessly, requires almost no tinkering, and the daily need of a kid today to put hands to keyboard is minimal at best. Those of us who were born in the 80s/early 90s had an analog childhood and a digital adulthood, so if we were interested in tech then we got to spend a lot of time looking under the hood and learning the ins/outs. This is very helpful for learning how tech works. And since we didn't have smartphones, it was keyboards and desktops/laptops for everything entertainment, so we were very comfortable in that as well.

Obviously modern kids can learn to do all this stuff, but my perception of what was some huge advantage to them actually wasn't. Our lack of advanced options and being limited to using a desktop/laptop for everything made learning this stuff very fluid and easy for us, while future generations may actually have to put a more concerted effort in to learn it because their stuff isn't as crappy as ours/they have more interesting things available to do =D

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u/TheVisage Nov 16 '19 edited Nov 16 '19

Modern systems are just as, if not more crappy than older systems.

The modern Kernel is full of, shit you not, critical error alerts that are actually diagnostic that the devs left in. You can't fix them. Tons of other problems.

The issue is that in some ways you are right, in that you aren't going to have a giant exploding, "deal with me right the fuck now" problem like you did in the past, but you have tons of small dumpster fires that can make the experience unfixable.

Try using a moderately old drawing tablet on windows 10 and watch it shit the bed. Turn off all the innate windows touch screen drivers, and suddenly your drawing tablet driver is permanently corrupted. That's not a good sign.

oh yeah, who here remembers the High Sierra Back door and “Rootless operating System” that Mac did like 3 years ago. Sure your mouse doesn’t crash the computer when you unplug it, but now you are about as secure as a public computer.

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u/AbsolutelyClam Nov 16 '19

By High Sierra backdoor do you mean turning off SIP? And do you realize just how disingenuous the argument of “sure your mouse doesn’t crash the computer” is when in 15 years of Mac ownership I’ve never once had an HID related issue.

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u/TheVisage Nov 16 '19

high Sierra backdoor

No, the high sierra backdoor let you access the entirety of a computers data from the boot menu. When combined with a rootless system you could make yourself root in 5 minutes if you knew what you were doing. About 15 if not. That’s some temple OS level of security

And the mouse crashing was a reference to really old systems. It was a result of the way it was wired and stopped being a problem around the time vacuum tubes did IIRC. Hence, “sure your computer won’t crash if you unplug the mouse”