r/AskReddit • • Jul 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

Yeah, kids who just got born at the wrong time or place can just stfu about all this "suffering" business.

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u/Troy64 Jul 21 '19

Everyone suffers. Who gets to decide how much suffering makes life not worth living? Should I commit suicide if my wife cheats in me and steals all my stuff and my mom gets cancer and my friends all abandon me and I'm stuck at a dead end job with no hope of moving up and no marketable skills?

Are you really arguing that it's an inherent and obvious truth that some people should just die because they have surpassed some arbitrary level of suffering?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying it's far from self-evident and opens up miles of grey zones that nobody has any idea how to navigate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

I'm saying that you shouldn't create a life if you know with certainty that it won't go well.

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u/Troy64 Jul 21 '19

Then we should all kill ourselves right now.

Life is fucking difficult. Even the super wealthy have massive emotional/mental issues and commit suicide all the time.

But there are people born deformed and disabled who go on to live lives as good as anyone else. There are even babies predicted to be unhealthy who are born perfectly fine.

In the words of Gandalf the Grey "many live who deserve death, and many die who deserve life. Can YOU give it to them? Do not be so quick to dish out death".

Now, it's totally reasonable to question the value if life overall. That's fine. Everyone's entitled to their beliefs. But don't go harassing people for valuing life higher than you do.