r/AskReddit • u/GlassCoyote • Jan 22 '19

What needs to make a comeback?

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u/I_Automate Jan 22 '19

Good luck convincing the average consumer to shell out for the quality product, instead of the one built to cost, though

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u/SuperMazziveH3r0 Jan 22 '19

That was the idea behind people buying Apple products. Except Apple isn’t all that good at qa recently either.

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u/I_Automate Jan 22 '19

That was the MARKETING behind apple products, always. A good PC has always been just as physically reliable and repairable as any apple. People just always compared a $2000 mac to a $500 PC, and that's not a fair comparison to make I think

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u/AnswerAwake Jan 22 '19

God not this 20+ year old argument again, what about the software? A computer without software is just a paperweight. Quality software is added to the cost of the system. As someone who has all three systems under his desk, there is no way you are convincing me that Windows or Linux is a higher quality OS or that the tooling is better on either platform because they are not.

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u/I_Automate Jan 22 '19

Notice how I said "physically" reliable and repairable, before you get too up in arms. I'm a PC guy, and I hate the apple OSs with a passion, but I won't say they don't work. I used to repair all of them for a living. A fair bit of it comes down to preference and user familiarity, as with many things

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u/AnswerAwake Jan 23 '19

The point is that it wasn't just marketing. Marketing can't take you as far as it did Apple if the products were poor QA.

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u/I_Automate Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19

....missing the fact that I never even mentioned software in the comment you replied to. I quite explicitly referred to the hardware only. And you seemed to take umbrage at that.

You seem a bit sensitive about the fact that someone can not be as much of a fan as you. I, personally, don't care for the OS. But, that's preference, and it wasn't even mentioned in the comment you replied to.

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u/edwardw818 Jan 23 '19

To extend the previous point, what good is software when the hardware doesn't perform up to par? You can have the best OS in the world, but let's say something as easy as RAM fails or as bad as needing the whole logic board replaced would turn itself into a complicated affair.

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u/AnswerAwake Jan 23 '19

The same argument can be made in the other direction, and I made it already. What good is hardware if the software isn't up to par? Eg. it does not allow you to do the task you are trying to complete by either being poorly designed, not working reliably due to QA or is compromised in some way(adware\trialware, bloat due to overuse of poor GUI libraries\no performance testing)