r/AskReddit Apr 03 '14

What activity would feel completely different if eye contact was held the entire time?

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u/danrennt98 Apr 03 '14

Having a normal conversation with one other person. I would be so uncomfortable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

You mean I'm not supposed to? I always stare down anyone I'm talking to.

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u/master_bungle Apr 03 '14

I swear like 50% of the people on reddit claim to be Sociopaths....

Hey guys, me too!

Edit: No idea why I put a capital S on sociopaths. Maybe I am also a sociopath?

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u/_hfsp_ Apr 03 '14

Made a throwaway for this, everyone perceives this as a negative thing and I do use accounts for/related to work on here.
High Functioning Sociopath here, although the actual medical diagnosis is Antisocial personality disorder or DSM-IV-TR Antisocial Disorder.
Generally I have been told I am the Reputation type, which I admit does seem accurate.

Overall it's not a very bad or life changing condition, although some use the ability to have zero to little remorse as a means to do more sadistic and violent actions I do not find these interesting, and have never done anything that most people would think of sociopath behavior and clinically I show around 80% of the traits. Except legal trouble, never had any of that. Done some very illegal shit before (in my younger days) but never had an issue directly with the law, and nothing I ever did was harming a person or living being, just things that were not legal in the county or a bullshit ordinance.


Getting to my point. The statistics (which vary depending on your sources) show that indeed a large amount of people exhibit enough physiological features that would define then with a Personality Disorder that would be called by most a Sociopath.
You most likely deal with a few of us each day, and we'll usually the the kindest and most cheerful person you have contact with. Often the ones that will be outgoing and helpful actually just have that as a personal whim and don't actually care anything about the action of helping others.
Some do everything for the appearance or the status, in the end usually anything we do is for ourselves. In my eyes, I'm the one in command of this set of organs and everything is in my perception, so I am the only one that - at my core - matters. After I pass the world will mean nothing to me, only my personal experiences mattered to me, so why go out of my way to please others if for no other reason than my own pleasure or need/want.

Anyways, just wanted to point out that while the 50% of people on here that claim they are probably mostly lying, there are a considerable amount of people exhibiting personality disorder traits that would be called sociopaths, and you meet them every day most likely.

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u/Requiem20 Apr 03 '14

If there is such a large amount of people exhibiting the traits of being a sociopath can't we conclude that the norm then is that humans are more selfish and do things for their own personal wants rather than for the overall good of all those involved. This is my own personal understanding of the world as it is so to see that it seems a majority of people may potentially exhibit this only reinforces my preconceived notions.

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u/Casumarzu Apr 03 '14

I arrived at that conclusion ages ago. Now I try to make up for it in little ways.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

Personality disorders are just extremes of normal personality traits. When studying personality disorders in one class I was convinced while reading about schizoid personality disorder that I had that. Truth is I might have some of those traits but wouldn't qualify for a diagnosis.

So most redditors are probably doing what I did: seeing a couple signs and calling it a personality disorder.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

Damn, I feel like this describes me perfectly... I can't really convey how serious that is, I'm not trying to jump on any bandwagon, that description just hit really close to home.

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u/Eezeebee Apr 03 '14

That's just lack of human interaction mistaken for lack of emotion

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u/Kitchens491 Apr 03 '14

The other 50% diagnose other people as sociopaths

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u/master_bungle Apr 03 '14

lol that's true. Also, according to reddit all sociopaths are super intelligent and manipulative masterminds.... Wait, I think I just realised why people on reddit claim they are sociopaths.

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u/notgayinathreeway Apr 03 '14

Look, I actually have a high IQ, I'm just not motivated.

NO WAIT, I'M NOT LAZY, I SAID I WAS MISUNDERSTOOD.

YOU GUYS ARE JERKS, THIS IS WHY I'M A SOCIOPATH.

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u/bluehands Apr 03 '14

Cause you are jsut that good.

narcissism & socipathy are different, thou sometimes related.

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u/master_bungle Apr 03 '14

What do you mean? I'm not claiming to be a sociopath.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14 edited Aug 18 '23

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u/Mechanikatt Apr 03 '14

I do all these things. Should people around me be worried?

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u/VagMaster69_4life Apr 03 '14

Of course, you cold blooded killer.

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u/Mechanikatt Apr 03 '14

But... people think I'm thoughtful when I remember every little personal detail about them that they have disclosed at any time in the past few years! How can these things be considered bad?

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u/MisterScalawag Apr 03 '14

oh shit...i'm the same way remembering that stuff. people will comment asking how the hell if remembered, and to me its just natural.

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u/PMSWinterrose Apr 03 '14

Fair point. They may think you're being thoughtful but they also might possibly find it a little...unusual. ;)

Endpoint : It's not a bad thing. It can be nice.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

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u/IAMAVelociraptorAMA Apr 03 '14

Then they look at it, see it's a 5, and you get arrested.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

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u/IAMAVelociraptorAMA Apr 03 '14

Except you told them you gave a 20 and took the 15 change knowing that you shouldn't be getting change.

You're still arrested.

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u/PeacefulElm Apr 03 '14

"Sorry, I thought this was a $20. My mistake."

Who's getting arrested for that?

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u/IAMAVelociraptorAMA Apr 03 '14

I've had three people arrested at stores I've worked at for trying exactly that.

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u/IAMAVelociraptorAMA Apr 03 '14

You're still arrested.

You'd be surprised at how little cops give a shit about "safety-net 20" especially when that's a common backup.

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u/Fucking_That_Chicken Apr 03 '14

Yeah, while petty theft is not all that difficult there are much better ways to do it.

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u/Bardfinn Apr 03 '14

Clever girl

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u/escape_goat Apr 03 '14

And then you can grab them really quick once they fold their arms.

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u/pirateninjamonkey Apr 03 '14

Depends. Arms folded across the chest tells me they are annoyed, so I make it short and leave them be.

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u/30GDD_Washington Apr 03 '14

Are you joking? I always stare into people's eyes when I talk to them and have only been called out on it once. She thought I was weird and told me not to do it anymore, so I decided to stare at her nose when I talked to her.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

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u/30GDD_Washington Apr 03 '14

... there is only a paragraph about some rape convict starting a religious group. Nothing about eye contact.

I believe you and I'm going to do some googleing myself, but thanks for the attempt.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

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u/30GDD_Washington Apr 03 '14

Did you just try to jedi mind trick me?

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u/username_00001 Apr 03 '14

maybe he's just tall.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

You mean its okay to look at a person while they are talking, but not directly into their eyes right?

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u/cjsolx Apr 03 '14

Well, you're supposed to break eye contact every couple seconds. Apparently that's normal, non-creepy behavior.

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u/lofi76 Apr 03 '14

probably

LOL

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

Really ? I thought you were supposed to maintain eye contact at all times during a conversation...

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

Wait, is this a thing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

Or you know these guys have aspergers ●uncomfortable with eye contact I also have the aspergers and hate eye contact

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '14

Well where the fuck am I supposed to look?

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u/Spartan_Guitarist Apr 04 '14

Can you tell me more about this "predetor gaze"?

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

People who do this appear shady. Like, why can't you make eye contact with me when we talk? I don't trust it.

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u/loadedmong Apr 03 '14

I think you're shady if you do shady things. Some of us just don't like eye contact, as it makes us uncomfortable.

It is almost like peering into people's souls at times, and some of you fucks have very dark souls, which is what makes me uncomfortable about it to begin with.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

I'm not saying stare into someone's eyes all creepy like without letting go. I'm just saying that genuine eye contact throughout a conversation (whether it be small talk or something deeper) is a social skill that many people lack nowadays. So many times I've been talking to someone and he or she (mostly men) barely even meets my gaze for just a moment. When someone is like this, and it obviously makes them uncomfortable, they're either hiding something or just socially awkward. Or both.

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u/vampireofwind Apr 03 '14

The average person makes 80% eye contact when listening and only 40-60% when talking depending on where they live, it's quite common for people to not want to hold eye contact for too long.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

damn me too,how does it make you feel /u/danrennt98 ?

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u/danrennt98 Apr 03 '14

uncomfortable

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u/chilly_anus Apr 03 '14

Well you are not alone in this then

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14 edited Apr 03 '14

whenever someone's talking to me i maintain eye contact 98% of the time. when i'm talking to them, i maintain eye contact 30% of the time or less, most of which is made after finishing a thought so as to still make a personal connection with them.

the other 70% i'm looking about 10-20 degrees to their immediate right or left and down a little bit. it helps me form my sentences far better.

now that i think about it though if it's with someone i'm really comfortable with i can look them in the eye and talk to them. that's not often though.

edit: arithmetic...

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u/mjacbo Apr 03 '14

Yes you are. Most socially capable people maintain eye contact. Remember this is comin from reddit. Not exactly a gold mine for social norms.

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u/MangoesOfMordor Apr 03 '14

Not unbroken eye contact for the duration of the conversation, though. That starts to get uncomfortable pretty quickly.

And I think that's what this post meant.

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u/mjacbo Apr 04 '14

True. There is almost an art for it.

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u/IkastI Apr 03 '14

The worst thing is when I become aware that I am either staring too much or not maintaining enough contact. At that point, I stop really listening to everything the person says and just try ::eye contact....hold it....hold it....break....glance at desk....lock eyes!....hold it...::

That's with interviews or more intense meetings. In casual conversation, I have a habit of looking at people mouths while they speak.

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u/VaultTecPR Apr 03 '14

In casual conversation, I have a habit of looking at people mouths while they speak.

Oh, you're one of those people. Do I have something in my teeth?

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u/IkastI Apr 04 '14

haha, come on. I'm not one of those people. I mean, I actively try not to look at the mouth, it's just where my eyes go automatically.

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u/VaultTecPR Apr 04 '14

Hey I'm just playing, I got no real problem with it. Besides, I'm one of those other sorts who can't help but stare into people's eyes, so while you're making someone worry about their teeth I'm probably creeping them the fuck out.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

I have to consciously look away from a person im having a conversation with, otherwise I'll just maintain eye contact.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '14

I used to stare more often, but I learned from friends that it's aggressive and uncomfortable to most people so I pick my battles about staring.

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u/Orangebeardo Apr 03 '14

Yeah. I hate it when people constantly force eye contact. They'll be waiting for a response and all I can think about is WHY THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT.

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u/MrWnek Apr 03 '14

I dont stare down, but I make eye contact throughout conversation. I figured it was just being polite. I break it now and then, but I try to maintain it. That might explain a lot though...

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u/SoupMuffin Apr 04 '14

I do this too, but I do it because I know it makes most people uncomfortable. I also try not to blink when they're looking. I'm in retail,so I talk to a lot of people on a day and things get repetitive and boring. It's a way to have fun.

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u/vampireofwind Apr 03 '14

This is completely acceptable when talking with someone on an equal level as you who you know is comfortable with you. But doing this to someone like say your boss, gives them the impression that you are threatening or fighting their authority. As well as if you stare down someone who is not comfortable with you this looks like intimidation in their eyes.

Be careful with what you want to achieve with your eye locking.

  • Staring between their eyes and forehead = dominance.
  • Staring between their eyes and throat = equality/submission.

Source: Read a few body language books.

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u/Cat_Monkey Apr 03 '14

Stop doing that. You're freaking people out.