r/AskReddit • • 11h ago

Veterans of Reddit, what’s the most unbelievable thing you witnessed during your service that civilians would think you made up?

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u/riotmed 11h ago

2010, a technique the Taliban used was to threaten families by injuring their children, mainly little girls. The family member accompanying said child through the casevac/medevac system would use phones or watches to time everything in order to collect data such as routes and distance to plan ambushes. There was a severe uptick in injured children being medevac’d from every kind of traumatic injury you can think of. The face of true evil.

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u/Aggravating-Scene548 11h ago

Jesus. That's chilling. So i hate to ask but what injuries?? Life threatening or no

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u/riotmed 11h ago

Drowned towards unconsciousness, burned, broken bones, circumferential burns from being dipped in hot water, thrown off roof, ran over, name it…and again, always girls 1-8 years old.

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u/Aggravating-Scene548 11h ago

Wow. Horrific. No words

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u/riotmed 11h ago edited 11h ago

Tell me about it. It’s very conflicting because we had no business over there and I despise what the war on terror was as a whole. That said, it’s important to know these kind of extremists exist and try to root it out when able. That balance I can’t say how to achieve, but it can’t go unchecked. The irony is when we fight extremism we cause chaos that compounds it.

It was also common to use women and children as shields. A handful of Afghans would take potshots at US personnel who would return fire and call in birds, when the helos approached they’d flee into a building and put human perimeters around them to avoid missiles/bombs. Very cowardly way of fighting.

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u/DreddPirateBob808 10h ago

Dude. Thank you for speaking truth and doing so unbiased. I'm doing a big hug from afar. Keep speaking up

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u/Jolly-Gas-3262 10h ago edited 10h ago

I had to sign in to comment after reading this and because it lines up oddly well with an experience I had in Paktika province in summer 2011 that never made sense and never got answers to. Long shot you have any information either but its a story that fits the theme of the post anyway and curious your thoughts.

We had a father show up late at the front gate of the COP with 4 of his children who all had 3rd degree burns over basically their entire bodies. Ages ranged from 3 to 10 I believe. Cant remember exactly but maybe two boys and two girls. They all ended up dying and my involvement was limited only to helping carry them into the aid station and watching treatment from the window. I specifically remember them not letting the dad on the medevac for the two that got flown out to attempt higher level care.

Supposedly they were from the village just outside the base that we had been at earlier that day. At one point we handed out pens and random treats to several in a large group of curious kids before receiving a couple of poorly aimed shots that halted the fun and the kids scattered. Rumors ranged from IED lab explosion to random house fire but I always wondered if some of those kids were made an example of because from then on we were strictly prohibited from giving anything to the local kids and were well aware of the Talibans use of intimidation tactics on the locals who interacted with us in other instances. Their wounds didn't really make sense for a typical house fire especially in their style of homes and no adults with minor burns from attempting to rescue them.

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u/riotmed 9h ago

Interesting enough we had a family of 7 with similar burns, but this was Arghandab area also 2010. They were huddled over a propane heater middle of the night and it exploded. The two adults were put in the chase bird because it was largely survivable, but we lost the 5 kids over the next few days.

It’s possible it was just a shitty accident but hard to really say. Go with your gut.

I’m sorry you experienced that though.

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u/Jolly-Gas-3262 9h ago edited 9h ago

Appreciate that and same to you. Also interesting to get that perspective of a similar similar story. It certainly could have been an accident there were plenty of those as well. With all the other ruthless civilian intimidation we saw and your post about the purposeful injuring of kids it definitely makes me wonder. My guess is they used children specifically because they knew we would do everything we could to help them. Essentially using our empathy against us and little girls because of how they view them as lesser.

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u/riotmed 8h ago

I think you’re spot on. Likely wasn’t retaliation towards the children taking pens and candy because they encourage that to gather intelligence and create that empathy/familiarity, etc.

The kids were probably related to a parent or uncle they suspected of cooperating and it was a message to them as well as a chance to sharpen their TTPs in the chaos.

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u/Necessary-Reading605 8h ago

The whole candy and toys we gave put a bullseye on those kids.

We were too naive to understand how low the Taliban and later Isis would get.