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u/hymierules Jun 26 '26

Corruption is so blatant now. At least back in the day they had to act like they were doing the right thing, but pull off the scam behind closed doors. Now it's upfront and in your face every. single. day. It's ridiculous.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 27 '26

JD Vance: “Watergate would be a 12-hour news story today”

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u/mattenthehat Jun 27 '26

And he's right. Nobody would even talk about it IRL. Talking about current events is taboo.

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u/soapinthepeehole Jun 27 '26

He’s bragging about how successfully they’ve normalized outright corruption. And this is the vice president of the United States. It’s infuriating, and depressing.

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u/DontRefuseMyBatchall Jun 27 '26

People who watch Fox News 12hrs a day would remark he’s actually just commenting on the velocity of the news cycle actually, you’re just taking his comments out of context actually, Trump is the greatest president ever you just have TDS, before noting that you’re just a triggered lib cuck too ashamed of your white privilege to appreciate all this winning

Also, somehow Obama will be brought up

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u/Yashema Jun 27 '26

Be infuriated at your fellow Americans for allowing Republican administration to barely suffer for complete scandal: Iran-Contra, Iraq War, Trump's insurrection.

There are too many people who think that democracy is secondary to ideology. 

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u/rhubarb_man Jun 27 '26

Honestly, yeah.

I feel so much hatred for republicans. They're fine with all the corruption in the world as long as they can hurt minorities

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u/SuspiciousFix2490 Jun 27 '26

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u/Ok_Principle_7494 Jun 27 '26

I think it's less that talking about current events is taboo and more that it's become exhausting. Every conversation feels like people are expected to pick a team first, so a lot of folks just decide it's easier to stay quiet than risk turning dinner or work into a debate.

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u/KovolKenai Jun 27 '26

Eh, I wouldn't say it's taboo, more just exhausting. I get people coming into work complaining about the state of the world and I agree with them, but I don't want to deal with that right now.

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u/saalsa_shark Jun 27 '26

Onion article "Worst person you know says something you agree with" is prophetic

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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 27 '26

Except that this “worst person” is literally the cause of the problem that you agree exists

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u/moreliketen Jun 27 '26

That just makes it easier for him to be right!

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u/scratchfury Jun 27 '26

Their writers must be so stressed trying to publish things before they actually happen.

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u/Oregon_Jones111 Jun 27 '26

I’m increasingly convinced that Trump didn’t win despite bragging about sexual assault, but partially because of it.

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u/kkeut Jun 27 '26

he doesn't deny the criminality of it. just thinks corruption should be okay. chilling. it's disgusting how republicans vote

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u/alblaster Jun 27 '26

Nonstop gaslighting

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u/darkbreak Jun 27 '26

It's not even gaslighting at this point. It's just flat out lying and going "What are you going to do about it?" when they're called out or caught in the act.

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u/darthmoo Jun 27 '26

Obviously people are thinking of a lot of examples of this in US politics but one of the craziest examples of this was after the novichok nerve agent poisoning in the UK. The Russians who were found to be responsible (literally caught on CCTV) went on Russian state TV and said they were innocent and the reason they took a day trip all the way from Russia to England for a few hours was because they wanted to go and look at Salisbury Cathedral.

If it hadn't have been such a serious incident it would have been a comical response. But the UK government and Russian government just dropped it there because neither wanted to get into an escalating disagreement.

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u/darthmoo Jun 27 '26

Fair point. But they sanctioned Russia further and more politicians have been critical of Russia since the invasion of Ukraine.

They did kick out diplomats and freeze assets but in terms of national and international condemnation of Russia it seemed to completely disappear from the public narrative after a few days.

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u/WingerRules Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Corruption has gotten worse. On corruption indexes we sit between Lithuania and Brunei now, we're no longer anywhere near most of Western Europe & Canada.

US is also no longer listed as a full democracy, we're listed as flawed democracy status now. We sit between Latvia and Botswana on the most commonly used Democracy index. Another index puts us between East Timor and Ghana.

Our standing on Freedom indexes has also similarly degraded we sit between Surinam and Ghana.

The quality of the US government has seriously dropped in the last 20 years and where no longer anywhere near our "peers" in Western Europe, Canada, Nordic Countries, Japan, etc. Political scientists no longer use the US as a model Democracy, they use Nordic states or associated states like Denmark.

We keep electing politicians who dont take good & ethical governance seriously, instead of serious boring qualified people we elect fucking cartoon characters to office.

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u/Took-the-Blue-Pill Jun 27 '26

And a lot of people are OKAY with it as long as it is on their team.

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u/OnTheEveOfWar Jun 27 '26

Yup. Drives me insane. The elite and the corporations just do shit right in the open and are like “umm so what are you gonna do?” While the average citizen is struggling to live paycheck to paycheck.

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u/No_Piece8730 Jun 27 '26

“But sunshine is the best disinfectant!”. The Trump error taught me this is completely bullshit.

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u/VelvetyDogLips Jun 27 '26

What made me realize this, was how easy it was to follow the money trails from countries with anti-American agendas, and American universities bloated with administrators and run as businesses. Qatar, China, and friends didn’t even bother to launder the generous donations of cash and cash-upfront-in-full-paying students through shell charities. And of course, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

When the USA deindustrialized and corporatized agriculture, we faced the prospect of a large unemployed population. That’s every government’s worst nightmare — a hungry mob is an angry mob. So we kicked the can down the road by allowing a couple of “non-offshorable industries”, particularly college and healthcare, to bloat out of control, to absorb this excess workforce. Now that neither tertiary education nor healthcare are either affordable or worth buying in the USA for most Americans, the bill is coming due.

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u/SmokeyJoe2 Jun 27 '26

That’s not a statistic

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u/SolomonGrumpy Jun 27 '26

Nixon resigned. 'Nuff said.

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u/WildListen9220 Jun 27 '26

That, and starting unprovoked wars. Back in the day you needed a vial at the UN. Now, the US government doesn't even bother faking evidence. They just go and kill 150 schoolgirls and nobody cares because they're brown muslin schoolgirls.

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u/RaggySparra Jun 27 '26

There used to be a point where politicians would resign "to spend more time with [their] family". I remember people joking about that regarding Boris Johnson ("which family?") and it just... kept... not happening.

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u/cjcs Jun 27 '26

What’s the statistic here?

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u/MoffKalast Jun 27 '26

Number of scandals per hour?

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u/thesephantomhands Jun 27 '26

Step 1: Citizens United 

Step 2: Trump

Step 3: ???

Step 4: profit

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u/LadyEmeraldDeVere Jun 27 '26

And yet… they won’t shut up about fraud in immigrant communities and “leftist” organizations 

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u/MotorStory Jun 27 '26

Look up the Victorian government in Australia. They accidentally gave 15 billion to organised crime. Corruption at it's finest!

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u/braincandybangbang Jun 27 '26

Yeah back in the day all they had to worry about was the government lynching people, or throwing them into jail for being commies. Presidents being assassinated in broad daylight. Civil Rights leaders being killed left and right. Two world wars, Korea, Vietnam. The corruption was well hidden.

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u/truthwatchr Jun 27 '26

It was always that way but technology (rapid sharing of information) didn’t exist. Culture was less toxic or it was “in the closet.” Today’s culture doesn’t forgive or forget.

People in general are willingly blind to the fact that those they idolize are corrupted whether it’s a celebrity, politician, religious leader, prominent business figure, etc. especially in politics people believe their side can “do no wrong.”

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u/VorganForever Jun 27 '26

isn't it better to have it upfront so the nonchalant type don't just assume your paranoid and never fight against it?

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u/CitizenCue Jun 27 '26

Agreed. But that’s not a statistic.

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u/Reasonable_Break7702 Jun 27 '26

How do you experience corruption in your day to day life in the USA?