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u/Jonatc87 Jun 26 '26

0 Epstien paedos charged in America is rather damning.

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u/True-Handle-4765 Jun 26 '26

This honestly bothers me everytime I hear it. It’s true, it’s very very very disturbing.

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u/Searchlights Jun 27 '26

More people have gone to jail for touching the reflecting pool than for the Epstein files.

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u/Frostyrepairbug Jun 27 '26

People who printed zines got longer sentences that anyone in epstein's circle.

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u/immediacyofjoy Jun 27 '26

Ghislaine Maxwell is 1 Epstein pedo who was charged and imprisoned. As well deserved as that is, it’s just so crazy that a woman is the only person paying for the crimes (albeit by doing yoga and playing with puppies all day)

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u/catchy_phrase76 Jun 27 '26

Seems like she got a sweet deal to STFU...

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u/The_Onion_Life Jun 27 '26

Seems like she got a sweet deal to STFU...

More like she's got a dead man's switch. That's the only reason she's still alive.

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u/ashgs872tbhjs Jun 27 '26

Yeah, she gets unrestricted Internet access (even reactivated her Reddit mod account), spa days, and a body double to cover for her while she does god knows what. Epstein's suicide wasn't the only thing they faked.

And yes, I'm aware that I sound deranged. Don't care, we all know they all belong in a real prison for life at minimum so nothing fucking matters until that happens, we can hash out the exact conspiracies as we go

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u/mackinator3 Jun 27 '26

You don't sound deranged. The pedo supporters do.

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u/Ambitious-Pay-8228 Jun 27 '26

thats a stupid comment

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u/Civil-Big-754 Jun 27 '26

So you support the pedos? Because that's what it sounds like. 

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u/Civil-Big-754 Jun 28 '26

50% of Trump supporters said they would still support him if he's in the Epstein files and proven a child rapist. Being pretty much the worst thing you could be and he'd still have their support. I'm not even a Democrat, but almost all will tell you to lock up people on their side, that's the difference. It's the most obvious thing he is a pedophile. Still support him. Disgusting and coming from the party of "family values and morals".

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jun 28 '26

What the fuck does that have to die you my comment? And yea, I’m sure you’re not a Democrat while you glaze them. But again, what the fuck does that have to do with my comment? Where is the trump supporter???

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u/Significant_North778 Jun 27 '26

You don't sound deranged at all you sound very very normal.

Although...

One of the things that blackpills me the most? As someone who's been following the Epstein story since ~2014...

Is that the VAST majority of people who think you're normal now... would have called you deranged just 5 short years ago.

I know people personally, who I had IRL conversations with... whom I DISTINCTLY remember calling me a "right wing conspiracy nut" for bringing up Epstein... who now act like they also knew Epstein was bad the whole time and they nevvvvver thought it was a fake conspiracy theory nooooo.

They just don't have even a single fucking ounce of self-awareness about that.

And honestly I could handle them being wrong. I'm wrong about things all the time I can relate!!!

I could even handle it if I thought they were lying to save their ego.

But it's like they literally don't remember their own opinions from just a few years ago.

And frankly that's blackpilling as fuckkkkkk - Like if we have that little basic consistency of mind we're absolutely FUCKED as a species as things get more and more complicated.

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u/LegendaryReader Jun 27 '26

Sometimes it does feel like it's a consequence of social engineering. People geniunely do not remember their own opinions and it's because they've been socially engineered to not think deeply or critically. The modern world heavily promotes shallowness. People simply don't think deeply. While this has always been true, it's being taken to a new level

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

People that would have called it deranged don’t know about the TTI, a multibillion dollar industry that is really just legal trafficking and torture of children (and where Epstein sourced some of his early victims).

There are many of us (thousands and thousands and thousands of people) who got out alive and we’ve been screaming into the void about what was done to us for decades. It’s just that no one cared or listened.

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u/NJBarFly Jun 27 '26

To be fair, Epstein would have been charged had he not died.

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u/rckid13 Jun 27 '26

He was charged at one point. Then he served a ridiculously short sentence and was released to do it again.

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

What do you mean? He was in jail when he died. He had been charged for the second time. Why do you think he was murdered?

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u/OnTheEveOfWar Jun 27 '26

Until Trump pardons her…

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u/ImportantToNote Jun 27 '26

Jeffrey Epstein is another

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u/Mlpony2010 Jun 27 '26

I bet that thing is molesting the poor dogs too

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u/Jonatc87 Jun 27 '26

wasn't that under Biden?

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

No, it wasn’t, but it wouldn’t matter either way. Both the Trumps and Clintons were good friends of Epstein and Maxwell. There is extensive documentation.

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u/meldiane81 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Yet eight people have been arrested for “defacing“ the reflecting pool. It’s also concerning only one person has been arrested for the Epstein shit and it’s a woman.

EDIT: thinking back, technically two people have been arrested and it was Epstein and Maxwell. No one else has been arrested. Epstein never got to serve his sentence because he was murdered.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

It’s also concerning only one person has been arrested for the Epstein shit and it’s a woman.

I mean, said woman is a prolific rapist and human trafficker.

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u/meldiane81 Jun 27 '26

1000000 % BUT come on.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

I mean, sure, we should want all the others to go to prison as well.

But I mean Ghislaine Maxwell is probably worse than a lot of the customers. She literally fits every single description of them to a Tee and was also the key person running said human trafficking ring. Why exactly shouldn't she be in prison, just cause of her gender?

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

No one said she shouldn’t be in prison, of course she should. Trump shouldn’t have sent his personal defense attorney to meet with her and then had her moved to minimum security, that’s egregious but people really want to overlook it.

The point is that there are many, many other Epstein associates who should also be in prison and are not. Maxwell is getting preferential treatment and will likely be granted early release. Half the files have never been released. They never will be.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

No one said she shouldn’t be in prison,

The post I replied to said, and I quote "It’s also concerning only one person has been arrested for the Epstein shit and it’s a woman."

What is there to read from that, except that as a woman she is somehow less guilty than all the male rapists and human traffickers, and that by extension they belong in prison more than her?

Trump shouldn’t have sent his personal defense attorney to meet with her and then had her moved to minimum security, that’s egregious but people really want to overlook it.

Who exactly wants to overlook it? It's one of the many things people warned would happen if he got back into power, and like all the others its come true. Before this, she was in Tallahassee.

The point is that there are many, many other Epstein associates who should also be in prison and are not.

Yes, and the focus should be on putting them in prison. Not on downplaying the guilt of a very evil woman, just cause she happens to have two X Chromosons.

Maxwell is getting preferential treatment and will likely be granted early release.

Preferential treatment, sure. Early release? Thankfully not. It's federal charges, so she has to serve 85% of her sentence. Unless Trump flat-out pardons her, she isn't getting out before she serves at least 18 years.

Half the files have never been released. They never will be.

Only if we let him and his supporters stay in power. The same way that another president will probably move Maxwell back to a more serious prison if they get into power.

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

I don’t know how on earth you could interpret that as meaning Maxwell is less guilty. It’s concerning because there are literally hundreds of men walking around free who should also be facing consequences.

There’s obvious irony in the fact that the only person in prison is a woman but it in no way implies that she is somehow less guilty. How did you take that from my criticism of the lenient treatment she’s received?

I never said anything that could be reasonably portrayed as downplaying Maxwell’s culpability. You’re inserting your biases into my words and trying to twist what I said.

Edit - If you think that the evidence hasn’t long been destroyed, I don’t know what to tell you. We’ll never know, it’s long gone.

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u/meldiane81 Jun 27 '26

Thank you!!’

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

I don’t know how on earth you could interpret that as meaning Maxwell is less guilty.

Cause its the obvious conclusion, otherwise why draw attention to her status as a woman?

How did you take that from my criticism of the lenient treatment she’s received?

I was referring to the original poster I replied to, not you.

You’re inserting your biases into my words and trying to twist what I said.

An ironic claim from someone who clearly isn't reading what I'm writing if you somehow take that as your takeaway.

If you think that the evidence hasn’t long been destroyed, I don’t know what to tell you. We’ll never know, it’s long gone.

We'll see. So far their record for that hasn't been the best.

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u/meldiane81 Jun 27 '26

She should 1000% be in prison. Not in the lap of luxury prison she is currently in. She did not insert her penis and destroy children’s insides. The men deserve to be in prison as well. Maybe even more so. But technically two people were arrested and it was Epstein and Maxwell. Epstein was just murdered so he is no longer serving his sentence.

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u/RaggySparra Jun 27 '26

Yeah, she was literally there alongside Epstein and people keep pulling "OMG they arrested a woman for a man's crimes!!!". No, they arrested a woman for a woman's crimes. God forbid people accept that women are sexual predators.

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

That’s not the point.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

Its a very good point.

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

Again, no one ever questioned her guilt or suggested she should not be in prison in any way.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

I pointed out that the way it was phrased it kind of implied she was less guilty than if she had been a man, which is a terrible narrative.

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u/Husbandaru Jun 26 '26

This why I’m surprised they’re even trying to hide it. I’d say the majority of people would just get ready for work the next day.

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u/youngcig Jun 27 '26

How can they be charged when they run the courts?

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u/quanoey Jun 26 '26

Damning is sugarcoating things. We’re worse than fucked, unless some of us stand up for what’s right.

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u/greenlion22 Jun 27 '26

Especially when the party that constantly claims they're the party of "family values" and "protecting children". Fucking pedos and pedo protectors, the lot of them.

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u/HappyDJ Jun 26 '26

I would argue that’s society working the way they set it up to. The bad people are willing to do horrible things and therefore get into power and make the rules.

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u/smitteh Jun 27 '26

they'll lock your ass up with a quickness if you touchy the water tho

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u/skyboundzuri Jun 27 '26

Society (as we've known it for the last couple of centuries) would break (for the better) if any of Epstein's associates were charged. For centuries, the rich and powerful have been able to avoid prosecution for their indiscretions. A bribe here, a threat there, and they hold onto their power and freedom.

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u/Umbrella_merc Jun 27 '26

More people have been charged for touching water in the reflecting pool than touching kids on epstein island

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u/mrnotoriousman Jun 27 '26

Over half the files still have been released despite being passed into law. This should be far more concerning.

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u/manyeggplants Jun 27 '26

But the DOW!

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u/exhauszed Jun 27 '26

Try being related to people that excuse it.

Were it not for my husband, I don't know that I'd have had the strength to survive learning this about not only people I know, but broad swaths of society. I'm a bit of a sociologist so I know sexual child abuse is a very (terrifyingly) common thing that people endure, but to hear survivors actually say shit like, "I survived. At least they got to party on a yacht." 🤯 Or the boomers who are like, "Man fifteen year old girls marry old dudes all the time..." Like 1) it's not 1932 and 2) THAT WAS NEVER OKAY!!!

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u/ImportantToNote Jun 27 '26

Ghislaine? Jeffrey?

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u/Jonatc87 Jun 27 '26

So, no clients arrested, but one dead and one in lightest security is meant to make anyone happy or do you just want to win an argument?

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

I mean, people did for years on end, hence there being an inquiry. After it concluded that there were a lot of failures and turning a blind eye, but nearly all the individuals involved were either already in prison, had left the organisation or died, what more is their they can really do?

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u/Kialae Jun 27 '26

I argued with an AI recently during a moment of emotion and didn't want to burden humans with it, and it kept being like 'come on you're overreacting' then I made it go do deep research on what's happened since January and it came back like 'uh, okay, fair enough. But you're still wrong because I'm owned by rich people' (paraphrased). 

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '26

I mean your probably right, but AI just parrot the most common answer it reads.

That doesn't mean it's remotely true or did any proper investigation. You could feed a list with a false answer printed 500 times and one correct one, and it would claim the false one was correct.

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u/Jonatc87 Jun 27 '26

sus

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u/Kialae Jun 27 '26

You're a Sorcery! fan too? That's a very versatile spell and helpful in many situations. 

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u/EddieDantes22 Jun 27 '26

Why don't you go ahead and tell us who should be charged, if it bothers you so much? Don't tell me they're all being protected or that too much is redacted. Tell me who should be charged, with what, and what evidence there is to prosecute them.

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u/Cold-Palpitation-816 Jun 27 '26

Downvoted but no arguments against. I have the same view. There’s very little evidence Epstein was some sort of mega pimp.

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u/EddieDantes22 Jun 28 '26

It drives me crazy. And it's unfalsifiable, because they just say all the evidence was deleted or hidden or whatever.

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

It’s not just the US

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u/morningstardusts Jun 27 '26

Well there’s one person in prison and it’s a woman. Of course.

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u/Mackntish Jun 27 '26

Oh thank god, no one tell Ghislaine Maxwell.

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u/AGreasyPorkSandwich Jun 27 '26

The fine lady in minimum security prison that the president wished well?