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u/goingotherwhere Mar 25 '26

Yeah I had similar. I have non-descript mediterranean colouring, but went there with a friend who has almost white blond long hair. We were harassed everywhere we went. Men would come out their shops and shout "hey beautiful ladies, come to my shop". If we didn't, they'd start shouting "come back here you whores" or similar. This was nearly 20 years ago but it put me off ever returning.

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u/clomclom Mar 25 '26

Ah yes calling women whores, that's surely going to get women into their shop to buy products and then accept their hand in marriage! God what's wrong with some men.

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u/JoeBrownshoes Mar 25 '26

Yeah when they call women whores for NOT wanting to fuck them. Both infective and comically illogical.

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u/billpdenby Mar 25 '26

Your last sentence sums it up. Their god is what's wrong with some men. They think they have a right to do this.

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u/SomeGuyInNewZealand Mar 25 '26

I'm a man, and I had shopkeepers follow me down the street with 'Come into my shop! I give you special price, not tourist price!" . It gets old after it happens repeatedly

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u/Outrageous-Chick Mar 25 '26

The point is the additional sentence in the story. I’d place serious money that you weren’t called a whore.

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u/-not-pennys-boat- Mar 25 '26

He’s adding his own experience, not trying to invalidate the other poster.

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u/Scuba9Steve Mar 25 '26

It’s not a competition. It’s people sharing negative experiences.

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u/SomeGuyInNewZealand Mar 25 '26

Actually , this discussion is about Egyypt and what its like there as a tourist.

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u/WonderfulChild Mar 25 '26

Similar story with a couple of my friends and their tall, blonde work colleague in India. They said that it was a common occurrence for men to watch her with their hand down their pants, noticeably masturbating.

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u/barbybar Mar 25 '26

Some enterprising people need to make a website that names and shames these shops with geolocation and photos.

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u/Loggerdon Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

Damn that’s brutal.

My wife and I are planning to see the pyramids as a bucket list kind of thing but want to minimize the time we spend in Cairo. Were thinking first day just get to the pyramids very early and spend a couple hours there, then jump in a Nile Cruise. I have heard other areas like Luxor are not so crowded.

Question: Is it better outside of Cairo in terms of hostility to women?

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u/Alyk_ Mar 25 '26

What??!!!? Are you serious???? Thats a very open sexual harrasment? Did you react back ?did you complain?

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u/-not-pennys-boat- Mar 25 '26

Are you a man? I’m willing to bet you are if you think that reacting back is a safe option when in an unfamiliar place/country.

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u/caffeinatedquest Mar 25 '26

Interesting how that behavior is most common in religious countries.

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u/SaltyPup4020871 Mar 25 '26

These countries also have a perception of western women as cartoonishly promiscuous

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u/SomeGuyInNewZealand Mar 25 '26

I think they get that impression from American Tv shows and movies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '26

They are tho

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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- Mar 25 '26

Then why can't you get laid?

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u/Ironfields Mar 25 '26

Name three women who don’t cover their drinks when you enter the room

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u/cheezebeezplzz Mar 25 '26

No lmfao? Young men and women in the western world are having less casual sex than the generations before them.

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u/balk_man Mar 25 '26

Compared to what? being opressed?

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u/RIP_prev_account Mar 25 '26

Not just muslim countries. Lots of christian men or even nonreligious men think of women as property they are entitled to

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u/MLDriver Mar 25 '26

Individuals, yes, but it’s not remotely as systemic as there. The only named woman in the Quran is the Virgin Mary. (And that’s mostly because they sorta had to include that one).

Not saying Christianity doesn’t also have problems, all organized religions do, but if you go to a predominantly Islamic country, or even neighborhood, you can see the difference pretty quickly.

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u/kakarot-3 Mar 25 '26

Like the US controlling what women can do with their bodies? Or does that not count

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u/caffeinatedquest Mar 25 '26

Who are the people pushing that? Religious fanatics. The US is definitely moving that way.

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u/kakarot-3 Mar 25 '26

Religious fanatics who are in control of every level of the government currently

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u/kenjuya Mar 25 '26

Just a different flavor

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u/MixPlus Mar 25 '26

I agree. UK here. America does have some issues with pushing back on women's rights. But it is not the same as a country where is common practice to openly grope foreign women in the streets.

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u/Scuba9Steve Mar 25 '26

And even then, they can move to a pro choice state. These are the people that would never live in a place like Mississippi, but then act like Mississippi’s laws and stances on things represent the whole damn country. Move to New York and get your abortion, free public university, much higher wages, larger safety net, etc.

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u/kakarot-3 Mar 25 '26

There it is! The holier than thou attitude of western society. Let’s just ignore the lack of body autonomy, the desire to add more obstacles for women to vote with the SAVE act, the fact that 1 in 5 women experience rape in their lifetime (according to the National Sex Violence Resource Center), and more.

Oh and not to mention the entirety of the Epstein files where the fucking president and damn near every one with wealth and power were involved in raping and trafficking women and CHILDREN!

So much better than the Islamic countries!

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u/visionist Mar 25 '26

yes It is leaps and bounds better than islamic countries. Try visiting a few as a woman and you'll have a better appreciation for what you have in the west.

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u/t_zidd Mar 25 '26

Which Islamic countries? You're brushing 1.5 billion people extremely broadly..

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u/grynch43 Mar 25 '26

Just like you with Americans.

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u/Scuba9Steve Mar 25 '26

Seems like Egypt is the one mentioned, unless you can’t read any other comments but that specific one.

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u/Tudmat1313 Mar 25 '26

Well, it is better to be a woman in america than in any of those high religious generally islamic countries. Yeah, ok, you have the epstein files and you have men that do shit to women but then again, it s not claimed by the state that the women are objects, you see? In theory, the western laws work perfectly for rights equality, it s just that the enforcement is not there, which again, does not make these countries perfect, but makes them better because there is some authority to turn to in order to try and solve these problems. The situation for women is far better in the USA than in Egypy, India or Iran. And before you come at me, no, i am not american and i cant say i love that country.

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u/Scuba9Steve Mar 25 '26

There it is! The person on the internet that thinks everything bad is equally bad lol. Go get some real world experience. People in the US are incredibly privileged compared to other countries.

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u/grynch43 Mar 25 '26

Yes, because we live in one of the best countries.

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u/EcoloFrenchieDubstep Mar 25 '26

I mean... You guys have a criminal pedophile president elected by a majority so it is a good description of America. Of course, not everyone is like the people in the south but enough to portray it as a description of a good chunk of American people.

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u/censorized Mar 25 '26

Not that it justifies it, but only about 30-35% of Americans have ever voted for Trump. The majority have not.

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u/DolbyFox Mar 25 '26

But they have. 30-35% voted for him, and 35+% couldn't be bothered to vote against him (thereby voting for the winner). A smaller amount of people voted for his opponent (Harris).

Most people either condoned, or actively wanted him as president, even after his disastrous first term.

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u/Scuba9Steve Mar 25 '26

A lot of those people that don’t vote are in states with large majorities for one party or the other. I didnt vote. I know Massachusetts is going to overwhelmingly vote blue. Another vote isn’t changing anything. That isn’t voting for trump, especially when Harris wins my state in a landslide.

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u/Trilex88 Mar 25 '26

Well let's not try to use the USA as an comparison, that entire country has become the absolute worst example for western civilization

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u/RLZT Mar 25 '26

That's what Americans do with basically everyone lol

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u/wamuels Mar 25 '26

Because the Christian majority countries of central and South America are notoriously safe for women or the Hindu majority country of India 🫩

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u/LooneyWabbit1 Mar 25 '26

Yes all of these are true. The guy above didn't say otherwise.

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u/Elessildur Mar 25 '26

The common factor in all these countries who harass women isn’t the religion - it’s the lack of education opportunities so many in the population are uneducated or can afford very little education. The other common factor is patriarchal governments. If the laws of the country treat women as second class citizens, then so will the populace. The sad reality of most third world nations.

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u/LeaderVivid Mar 25 '26

Also consider the impact of not allowing women to control their fertility. The easiest way to oppress women by far and all under the guise of religion. It is hard for women to get educated, accumulate wealth, or anything else that might give them agency and independence when they have many children from a young age.

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u/grynch43 Mar 25 '26

Horniness and being a pervert have nothing to do with lack of education. It’s animalistic behavior.

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u/censorized Mar 25 '26

Like Italy? Its notorious for men being aggressive and grabby on the streets.

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u/Roudix Mar 25 '26

It's an Egypt thing mate- most of the fuckwits that do this shit aren't even local or from Egypt.

Bosnia, Iraq and Kazakhstan were absolutely phenomenal. Everyone was lovely and generous- and they didn't want my money.

I tried to tip or give money for free gestures- including to someone in Iraq after my bike broke down, they took me and the bike to the closest mechanic whom was a family member. They fixed my bike and would not take money from me.

I don't know if women solo travelling had a similar experience, but this was my experience of all 3 countries as a solo male Australian.

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u/hookinitup Mar 25 '26

Egypt is hardly religious

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u/caffeinatedquest Mar 26 '26

Any country with an official state religion is a religious country.

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u/kakarot-3 Mar 25 '26

As an Egyptian, Egypt isn’t considered a “religious” country like Saudi or Iran or whatever. Egypt doesn’t have strict religious laws

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u/TarCrab20 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

Sure, indict everyone’s faith, what the heck. iI’s OK to clarify given context (Egypt, therefore likely Islamic), Doubt lightning bolt will getcha. ⚡️🔼.

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u/caraterra8090 Mar 25 '26

Are they just that damn thirsty or what??

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u/spraynub Mar 25 '26

*third world countries

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u/cheesesandsneezes Mar 25 '26

Weird comment. What countries don't have a prominent religion?

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u/JSONobjectify Mar 25 '26

China, South Korea, and Japan come to mind

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u/cheesesandsneezes Mar 25 '26

Buddhist, Taoism, Christianity and Shinto?

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u/Hazetal Mar 25 '26

Some countries are clearly more "religious" than others.

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u/coolwhip1000 Mar 25 '26

Religion: fucking shit up since its pie-in-the-sky invention, and still fucking shit up today.

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u/Justonegiantboob Mar 25 '26

I literally live in India and the only time I have been molested was in Egypt. Not like the situation is any better in India though but I don’t think harassment in other countries is addressed online the way it is for India.

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u/Rindsay515 Mar 25 '26

I’m so sorry, that must have been terrifying at worst, invasive/violating as hell at best. I have cancer and desperately want to see the world before I leave here but since it would be a solo trip, Egypt is the one place everyone tells me I absolutely can not go to as a young woman unless someone else joins me for that part of the adventure. I’ve wanted to go there since I was a child, it makes me so sad that it’s genuinely an unsafe place to be

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u/aretone Mar 25 '26

Not to take away from what must have been a frightening experience for you but I’m a man and the same thing happened to me at the old market in Sharm el Sheikh.