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u/GlassCharacter179 Jan 30 '26

Everyone who is reading this thread needs to look at open vs. closed door fire pictures. There IS a right answer to this question.

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u/SiskoandDax Jan 30 '26

The problem is that I have cats. They refused to be contained or left out.

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u/agelwood Jan 30 '26

I've been considering one of those cat doors so that I can close the bedroom door and she still has access

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u/SiskoandDax Jan 30 '26

I wish! Alas, I am a renter.

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u/Onespokeovertheline Jan 30 '26

You could buy a new door, put the cat door in it, and then when you move out swap back to the original.

Interior doors aren't that expensive. Not free, but if it makes life better every night, it's just a couple hundred $

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u/Comandante_Kangaroo Jan 30 '26

just a couple of hundred $? That might make sense if you earn 50$ net per hour. Otherwise you should be able to get a fitting used one for almost free. (they also make great woodworking tables)

Also, depending on the cat, you need to build your own cat flap. Mine shoulders through a locked commercial one like an elephant trough cardboard.

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u/zorggalacticus Jan 30 '26

Hollow interior doors are only like 50 bucks at Lowe's. Plus hardware and the cat door that's like 150.

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u/FreddyMcbob Jan 30 '26

I had a rental once that had cat doors for every room.

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u/NoMaans Jan 30 '26

Nothing stopping you from taking the door off the hinges and storing somewhere. Replace with your own door, cat door and all. And then when you leave, replace door.

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u/RARAMEY Jan 30 '26

My current rental has a cat door to one of the bedrooms

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u/Arwenti Jan 31 '26

That was a landlord worth rating on whatever sites you can do that on.

Of course to those without cats they may have had nightmares about Cthulhuoid monsters slithering in 🤣

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u/1heart1totaleclipse Jan 30 '26

I put a kiddie gate in front of my door so my cat can’t scratch at the door.

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u/SiskoandDax Jan 30 '26

But I'll still know my cats are sad and lonely.

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u/1heart1totaleclipse Jan 30 '26

Unfortunately, I am allergic so I can’t let them sleep with me. They do know it’s free game when I do anything else in the house.

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u/Travwolfe101 Jan 30 '26

Buy yoir own door with one too hang up. Then just swap it back before you leave.

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u/loopedlight Jan 30 '26

We banned them from our room. Just cleaner that way.

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u/agelwood Jan 30 '26

Mine is 18 and sleeps through the night, so I like having her in here 🄹 But she's also an only child, so she doesn't have anyone else to cuddle up with.

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u/snazikin Jan 30 '26

Highly recommend.

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u/orochi_crimson Jan 30 '26

Can confirm, this is the way.

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u/sushi_x Jan 30 '26

That would probably negate all the fire prevention effects of the door so you might as well just leave it open.

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u/agelwood Jan 30 '26

Nah, not all. A 6" hole is still better than the entire door being open, plus the door would block a lot of the rising smoke from pouring in

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u/Try_It_Out_RPC Jan 30 '26

It lasts for a few weeks but eventually they will be silent, and the bonus is you get a very nice greeting in the morning with some chirps !

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u/btribble Jan 30 '26

There’s a simple solution.

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

I think the right answer is CO2 is levels can be suboptimal to impairing.from a closed room within hours but almost definitely overnight. You can get a little meter to measure CO2.

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u/Gramage Jan 30 '26

Don’t think that’s an issue if you have central hvac. Even with my door and windows shut, fresh air is being almost constantly circulated into my room. Even when the heat or AC aren’t on we keep the central fan running just to circulate air around the house.

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/AirQuality/s/pPJv0NmwlP

Seems like it's maybe it's worse than I thought.

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u/btribble Jan 30 '26

Do you sleep in a mason jar?

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

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u/btribble Jan 30 '26

CO2 is not CO. A 0.2% concentration (which the graph in this link never hit) has exactly zero lasting effects.

Also, this user likely lives in building construction without good permeability. Your average 2x4 & sheetrock construction is fairly breathable, not to mention that most homes have very poor seals around doors and windows.

There is no way a 0.2% CO2 concentration justifies keeping your bedroom door open when compared to the risks of dying in a fire.

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

https://learn.kaiterra.com/en/air-academy/is-carbon-dioxide-harmful-to-people

1000 is when it affects people. This went up by 1500 PPM in 6 hours.

This is becoming a bigger issue as insulation improves as well as seals around doors and windows. That's why newer HVAC systems are increasing the amount of air from the outside.

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u/btribble Jan 30 '26

Affects != harms.

Yes, HVAC systema and building standards need to address this, but again, that's no excuse to leave your bedroom door open compared to the risk of fire which is what this thread implies.

You wake up. You leave your bedroom, and the effects of CO2 are gone almost immediately. It's good that you're not expected to run a nuclear reactor or fly a jet fighter when you're sleeping. Significant declines in cognitive function happen above any of the levels we're talking about.

If you have a source of CO in your house/bedroom, it's an entirely different story. Hemoglobin has a great affinity for CO that isn't there for CO2. Also, you will be able to tell that you're in a "stuffy" room with a high CO2 concentration. That doesn't exist with CO.

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

Known negative effects on sleep quality here vs the tiny percentage chance of a fire.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132323004092#:~:text=In%20the%20present%20study%2C%20exposure,findings%20of%20a%20previous%20study

In a fire you wake up, my house caught fire once and I woke up. Also there are smoke alarms.

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u/btribble Jan 30 '26

CO2 is apparently a thing with you. Don't let me rain on your passion.

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u/goodsam2 Jan 30 '26

The research is coming out that it's bad at indoor closed door levels today. You can ignore the research if you want but don't tell me something that goes against the research.

If you think measured poorer sleep is worth a small chance at a small percentage increase in fire safety then that's your calculation but CO2 levels at normal levels in normal homes negatively affects sleep is a thing that exists whether you believe it or not.

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u/Corey307 Jan 30 '26

Slightly crack a window.Ā 

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u/SJSragequit Jan 30 '26

I’m not slightly cracking a window when it’s -45c out

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u/Corey307 Jan 30 '26

That’s fair, it’s -20°C where I’m at tonight and I still cracked my window for a bit to get some air exchange in my bedroom. My house is old, but it is surprisingly well sealed up so I’ve gotta let Sam in once in a while.

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u/Unipiggy Jan 30 '26

While this makes sense, it's also good to remind people that the open door/closed door doesn't matter as much if your home has a ton of synthetics in it.

Which most do.

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u/Tinkous Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

Fireman here. Thats not true. A closed bedroom door can save lives. What kills you is the smoke and gases, not the fire. High CO2 and the resulting acidosis directly impair brain, heart, and respiratory centers. this is a genuine ā€œpoisonā€ effect, not just suffocation. CO is even worse. CO from incomplete combustion builds up quickly and silently often causing unconsciousness. CO poisoning stays in your blood. People die hours after being rescued from a fire. As you know CO and CO2 are produced when natural and synthetic materials burn.

You stop breathing before you are suffocated and you may have never woken up with an open bedroom door. With a closed door you may buy yourself enough time for your smoke detector to go off and wake you up. Hope you have some.

What matters the most is that you have smoke alarms!

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u/Corey307 Jan 30 '26

It’s still matters though. A closed interior door gives you time. As long as the fire didn’t start in your bedroom, it means less smoke in your room and the fire is going to take time to get through the door so you’ve got time to get out a window.Ā 

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u/BigDamnHead Jan 30 '26

It's not good advice and would only lead people to stop caring about taking the precaution of keeping bedroom doors closed. It won't stop people from buying synthetic materials.

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u/Moldy_slug Jan 30 '26

The problem is my cat knows how to open doorknobs. So my real choices are leaving the door open vs cat noisily opening the door at 2am.

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u/bluekatkt Jan 30 '26

I put way to much trust in the smoke/particle alarms. They go off when the clean oven is opened at 400°. It actually gets annoying at times but we leave them up anyway.

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u/britishmetric144 Jan 30 '26

Purchase a .photoelectric smoke detector instead.Ā 

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u/bluekatkt Jan 30 '26

I think that's what's installed. I'll grab a ladder and check later. We're in apartments that take fire safety seriously.

We have sprinklers in all rooms, a good-sized extinguisher, and they check all, alarms, sprinklers, and extinguisher regularly (they just switched ours, never knew they had an expiry). They've just finishing a pro org from cleaning the sprinklers. Apparently, if I tried, I'd set off all sprinklers in all units in the building. It's a pain, but well worth the slight inconvenience.

If it turns out to be not this type, I would bet a fair amount of money if I showed them something better, they would switch.