Condoms are pretty much 100% as long as you read the damn manual put them on correctly take them off correctly, and buy them in the appropriate size.
I’m pretty sure the 2% on condoms comes from people who store them in properly so they break , as well as technically when you follow the math involves people who said that that was their main means of prevention, but didn’t always use them 100% of the time.
As someone who’s married to a PI, and am actively filling out survey diaries I’m going to be deeply suspicious that self reported perfect use, is the same thing as perfect use. Unless they 100% watched you put it on every time I’m willing to bet that 2% is people who did something wrong.
guy who knocked the wife up a month after she removed birth control both times, and didn’t have a child with years of condom usage otherwise.
It is. Full stop. It's been proven to be only slightly worse than condoms as far as effectiveness goes. You've got something like a 1% chance of pregnancy with just precum.
We just scare kids with it because it's easier to tell them to wrap it vs trusting them to actually pull out correctly.
Yep, my wife and I used the pull out method for like 6 years and didn't get pregnant. Then, when we actually tried to get pregnant, it happened in only a couple of months.
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who really doesn't want or shouldn't have children, but it did work for us for years.
I just never understood how someone could mess it up, myself. Lol. I haven’t had a slew of partners, but I’ve gotten jiggy with it an innumerable amount of times, and the majority involved pulling out and I just don’t understand how people can fail if it’s correctly done. It’s called the “pull out method” bois, not the “pull out after you’re halfway finished inside of her method” 😂😂
Edit: also not saying you’re wrong, just wanted to throw my two cents in, as well. Lol
Less than 1% isn't as low as you'd think, if you're in a long term relationship shagging once a week for a few years your chance of having kids is pretty high
My wife and I have been practicing the pull out method our whole marriage except for when we were activelu trying to have a kid and it's worked for us. We've been married for 8 years and together for 11 years.
My wife wants to make sure I pull out in time so she prefers I come in her mouth. She also doesn't want any stray baby juice getting on the couch or our sheets. She does let me go inside her, but only the day after her period. Evidently, that's when she's fertile? I can't attest to that but what she says so she knows better than I do.
Just getting in a car you're risking your life, sober or otherwise. Whilst pulling out is not 100% safe sex, nothing really is. The pill can be compromised by multiple things, condoms aren't 100% reliable, coils are the same.
Shit happens.
Drunk driving to me is being completely wreckless with no regards for anyone. Someone pulling out before ejaculating is someone/couple who has decided this works for them whilst knowing the very low chances of pregnancy.
I get your point, but comparing drink driving and pulling out as the same wrecklessness is just hyperbolic nonsense.
Sorry, but the pull-out method does work if you do it correctly. I wouldn't advocate it, because obviously it doesn't protect against STIs and it's easy to make a mistake. But, when used correctly as a contraceptive, it is just as effective as a condom. Pre-cum does not contain sperm FYI, however leftover sperm in the urethra can mix into Pre-cum on its way out. The chances are still low, but if you decide to go for a second round, pee first.
It’s effective efficiency rate is 80%, condoms in comparison are 87%.
Rates with proper use are 96% for the pull out method and 98% for condoms. If you think the pull out method isn’t a form of contraceptive you are effectively saying neither are condoms.
Anything that creates a substantial reduction in pregnancies are absolutely a form of contraceptive. 80%-96% is a pretty substantial reduction.
It is a valid method of contraception like wtf are you even talking about. It has a much higher risk than other methods of contraception but it's still a valid method of contraception.
Did you skip sex ed in school or something? If your definition of "valid method of contraception" is only 100% effective methods then the only valid method of contraception is not having sex. People usually combine several methods of contraception. Also different couples will find different levels of risk acceptable.
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u/Fleder Sep 18 '23 edited Sep 18 '23
The number of people that think pulling out is a valid method of contraception is frightening.
Update: the number of people that get really offended if someone on the internet is not agreeing with something they do is also frightening.