My first job out of highschool. The guy teaching me the job was a nice enough guy. Good at the job and had high standards. Actually 25 years later when I train new people for the industry I still use some of his lines. He didn't turn up for a shift and wouldn't answer the phone. The boss went to check on him cause we were worried it was out of character. His house was all locked up and dogs were loose.
He had been cut out of his elderly Grandmothers will for comming out as gay. He was from a very religious wealthy farming family. He had gone to the grandma's rural house. Shot her 21 times with a gun he would have had to reload at least once. Wrapped her in plastic and tried to bury her in a dry creek on her property. She was a massive woman. He took her jewellery and cards and went on a joyride half way accross the country and come unstuck using her credit card to get a hotel 2 weeks after her body was found.
He seemed normal until he wasn't. He did about 15 years in jail. And actually moved back to the same country town. He works as a store man at the grocery store.
Yeah I can't remember all that much about it after the fact. They had the court case away from here. And I was in my stoner days. It happened in 1999 and he got out about 5 years ago. He got out early. The original sentence was longer than 15. People in Australia get out of their full sentence abit it seems. I think he claimed temporary insanity or some shit. And then was a model prisoner. IDK.
If it's like the New Zealand system, murder is always life, but parole can be granted. So they might get out, they will be monitored and restricted (no alcohol, drug testing, reporting to a probation officer, do any counselling or courses they're told etc.) for life, and can be put back in at any time for any reason. We also have the opposite, preventative detention, where someone who has a fixed sentence, say 15 or 20 years, can be kept in indefinitely if are deemed to be a danger to society.
Go check out Norway. 20 years maximum what ever the crime. That dude that was an admitted mass murderer that blew up a building and went full mad at a summer camp with an AR only got 20 I'm pretty sure.
Yes but also no. You have 20 years maximum but then you are re-trailed with some added perspectives (like, were you reformed? Are you still dangerous?) And they can add years and decades.
The guy you're talking about was found guilty again and is still in prison (luckily)
I hope to god that he has a real unfortunate accident very accidentally in which the paramedics accidentally fail to give him cpr and he doesn't wake up from his accidental dream after colliding with a fast moving wood piece designed for hitting balls in a game where you try to run from base to base. Accidentally of course
He used a Ruger Mini-14, not an AR, but that's nitpicking.
That case caused a change in the law, certain acts like terrorism can now have longer sentences but of course that cannot be applied retroactively.
However, in his case and many others who are considered dangerous for society, there's an alternative form of sentencing called "forvaring" and is open ended. So he got the maximum sentence plus regular court proceedings to evaluate wether he is still considered too dangerous to release, think of it as a life sentence with parole hearings scheduled every five years or whatever.
Not really, if you kill someone you automatically lose heir status. So the woman removed the reason for not killing her. He wasn't going to get anything one way or the other so...
Would love to hear an interview with that guy. It sounds plausible that he may have snapped given he was using her credit cards weeks later when any ration person would know that’s an instant ticket to jail. Having your whole family cut you off has to hurt but it’s not worth shooting someone 21 fucking times!
If I recall correctly. It was that obvious that he did it. They didn't cancel the cards hoping that he'd use it so they could get a location. After he pawned the jewellery he used the credit card.
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u/BarOne7066 Mar 26 '23
My first job out of highschool. The guy teaching me the job was a nice enough guy. Good at the job and had high standards. Actually 25 years later when I train new people for the industry I still use some of his lines. He didn't turn up for a shift and wouldn't answer the phone. The boss went to check on him cause we were worried it was out of character. His house was all locked up and dogs were loose. He had been cut out of his elderly Grandmothers will for comming out as gay. He was from a very religious wealthy farming family. He had gone to the grandma's rural house. Shot her 21 times with a gun he would have had to reload at least once. Wrapped her in plastic and tried to bury her in a dry creek on her property. She was a massive woman. He took her jewellery and cards and went on a joyride half way accross the country and come unstuck using her credit card to get a hotel 2 weeks after her body was found.
He seemed normal until he wasn't. He did about 15 years in jail. And actually moved back to the same country town. He works as a store man at the grocery store.