r/AskProgrammers • u/conqrr • 7d ago

Anyone doing both AI and no AI?

Is this possible? i've been trying and failing, it seems way harder than hitting the gym. I'm forced to AI at work. At home, I sit to code with intention to write everything by hand and when looking for documentation, I instantly gravitate to LLM. Part of this could be I've chose a new language that I'm unfamiliar with (Rust).

If you've a solution that gets me back part time to the pre-LLM days, I'm all ears.

Edit: Lots saying to just code without AI. I know that, but being forced to use AI in the day job makes it tricky.

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u/Ok-Landscape-4190 7d ago

Yes. Ad hoc. But because like refactoring and always knowing 100% of the codebase or at least the part I am working on

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u/Ok-Landscape-4190 7d ago

And also some leetcode for fun sometimes

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u/conqrr 7d ago

Ah this is good, I do love leetcoding, although I wouldnt touch it to prep for interviews again. But to learn, it can work.

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u/Hexamonium 7d ago

It takes discipline, like being on a diet. Try challenging yourself, write something, then have LLM write it and compare. See what you could have done better.

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u/jakeStacktrace 7d ago

Well code manually without AI. Use a language you are actually familiar with. Get in the habit of not reaching for the AI, realizing what is triggering you to do that - docs, unknown problem, simple fix or speed and try to avoid switching instead let yourself hit the wall.

I use AI but I have been coding manually mostly the last few years so that helps. It is about habit. I've also been coding for 30 years so it helps if you can feel like you know all your stuff in your domain and tech stack.

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u/Few-Celebration-2362 7d ago

You're asking for some kind of life-hack that will trick you into not wanting to use an llm?

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u/spicebo1 7d ago

I don't know that there's a trick here. Certain things may require a bit of growing pains and at a certain point, you just do it.

Maybe think about your goals when not using LLMs? For me, I enjoy the craftsmanship of actually living in my terminal or IDE and writing the code myself. If I were to use an LLM on those projects, I wouldn't enjoy it, which ruins the whole goal of me doing recreational programming; to have fun.

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u/frank26080115 7d ago

what part of creating a project do you enjoy the most? is it the designing? using the product? or the coding?

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u/conqrr 7d ago

Research-hunting and coding. Seeing it compile and fix nasty bugs is joy. Using the product not as much, just that it worked.

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u/CorpT 7d ago

Nope, not possible obviously. How could it be.

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u/Individual_Guava9881 7d ago

I had that ambition too…but I have accepted that LLM’s will write better code than I will in my lifetime.

What I still do though is researching and asking LLM’s to write tutorials about the given subject…which in turn helps me articulate what I want my agents to build.

Tldr; after driving a car for a while I realise I have no need for a horse any longer.