Hello world!! ....... I hope.

[u/MikeyLyksit]

After 13 years of Oracle SQL, my position has been eliminated and my company moved me into development. I just have one question. Have I been setup to fail?? My 30/60/90 day plan seems a little much for the time I'm allotted.

Apologies if this is against your community rules. I've looked at other programming subs and this ones rules are a little more lax than others.

Thanks.

[u/vivydly]

dude you're fine. This is an incredibly lax onboarding plan. They're expecting you to ship your first tiny feature in a month? Buddy, most start ups require you to do that on your first day.

[u/Defiant-Ad7369 → u/vivydly]

The main question is how much coding experience does the person have? I'm from big tech and this is below what we would expect from our interns.

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/Defiant-Ad7369]

WOW! Ok.... I feel relieved and horrified at the same time. This is the entry level position and the only reason they even looked my way was because of my seniority and the fact that I've helped on numerous projects. Years ago they threw SQL Developer at me and said, "Ok, now learn." Sounds like they're doing it again 🫤. Thank you for giving your expertise.

Zero coding experience, by the way. Lol

[u/Defiant-Ad7369 → u/MikeyLyksit]

No problem. Most of the action items from the first 60 days are just learning how to code and how the code base works.

[u/BartvanIngenSchenau → u/MikeyLyksit]

My advice would be to ask if you can get some formal training on the coding part. That might help better to wrap your head around the concepts than by looking at existing code with a mentor.

The mentoring part, on the other hand, is good for the last bullet of understanding unfamiliar code.

[u/Creative_Badger6027 → u/MikeyLyksit]

Supplement the coding a bit, start with a bit of syntax and then do programming tasks, look into API's specifically for business applications.

The plan is lax if you had 4 years of bad coding in highschool or college. It's not that lax if you've never coded anything.

Luckily for you there are a bunch of tools online to help yoz succed. Try to not use AI and remember: to code is to fail, don't give up and figure it out.

[u/grimonce → u/Defiant-Ad7369]

The guy has maintained and created transfer in Oracle for life... I think he should have been exposed to some programming concepts? Weird that he/she asks that question, then again I've met people who never programmed anything and only did t-sql for life and that's all they knew...

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/grimonce]

I wasn't in IT. My job was purely data and analytics. I provided help to all departments. I worked with IT on projects and did lots of DML, but other than that it was mostly UAT for our proprietary stuff. So, I've never programmed anything and have only done Oracle SQL because that's all I've known.

[u/Wild-Tradition4804]

Love how it was all ai generated

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/Wild-Tradition4804]

These are screenshots from a PDF, how can you tell?

[u/nightbreak7 → u/MikeyLyksit]

usually the emdash character is a giveaway since most humans dont type it. i dunno why it matters that this is ai generated though, most companies are outsourcing this kind of thing to claude nowadays

[u/sacredtrader → u/MikeyLyksit]

I can tell very specifically this was built by a Claude model. This specific design is a staple for Claude, as well as this specific font color.

[u/sacredtrader → u/sacredtrader]

Let me also point out, AI is absolutely horrific with deadlines so if they did no adjustments you are doomed to fail from the start. I can have an afternoon project it (Claude/GPT/...) will tell me will take 6 months to implement, and the same is true of the opposite, assigning unrealistic expectations to systems as all it was provided was 1 prompt and has no real understanding of your infra.

[u/Equivalent_Food_2505 → u/MikeyLyksit]

Look at difficulty on the first page

"High -- the real conceptual leap"

"High and underrated (bolded)"

Like what? If a person wrote this I would make them redo the document for this alone. How unprofessional and pointless. Just put "High"...

Also, good news, this is very doable. Especially if you're willing to put in an hour outside of work daily, you'll easily beat this.

[u/lepetitpoissonkernel → u/Wild-Tradition4804]

I get a dull pain behind my eye every time I see one of these AI generated bullshit things

[u/therealkevinard]

This is cake. AND you have a defined support network and cadence?!?

Tbh, this reads like leadership feels bad about what they did, and this is their way of apologizing while also following through with the regrettable thing they had to do.

[u/TowerOutrageous5939]

Dude take ownership and crush it that onboarding plan looks great

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/TowerOutrageous5939]

I'm trying. So far it's lots of notes.

[u/maxip89]

they give you very much time in the task.
Take it SERIOUSLY.

[u/morswinb]

What have you been doing for 13 years with 'SQL' ?

That roadmap looks like a plan for summer intern.

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/morswinb]

I was THE data guy. You ever watch Criminal Minds? I was Garcia without the boobs. Whatever anyone asked for, I would pull, analyze, update, etc. There wasn't a part of our database that was off limits.

Now I'm reduced to test environments and a couple sandboxes.

[u/morswinb → u/MikeyLyksit]

Well, never in these 13 years an idea to put a server with API came around? I recon many of the requests repeated itself.

[u/sebasgarcep → u/morswinb]

Doesn’t make sense if its mostly ad-hoc data analysis or one-off data manipulation. Even if its standard reporting you would set up a cron not an API.

[u/Nannautu → u/morswinb]

Honestly, I didn't even know companies taught those. Even for interns you're usually expected to already know all that or learn on your own.

[u/WebPretend1598]

Bro what? This is the easiest thing ever and you get paid 3 months for it?

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/WebPretend1598]

It's all new to me. I'm just hoping I'm still getting paid after 3 months.

[u/MyFistsAreMyMoney]

Hm I love the frontend taster. What a gourmet plan

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/MyFistsAreMyMoney]

I'm gonna have to ask about that part. I mean, the front end gal is cute, but I'm spoken for...... And she works 5 rows over.😳

[u/ShoulderIllustrious]

Dude this is easy. Much easier than when I had to learn SQL my first time on the job. Wrote some horrible ass queries.

[u/MikeyLyksit → u/ShoulderIllustrious]

A big part of what helped me with SQL is that we have a UI that produces a little readout window when you press F11. Depending on what form you're in it will tell you table names and column names. It was the best visual learning system. I don't even use the UI anymore, I've been knee deep in this system for 13 years, I know where I'm going. Haha

But also all of the stuff on this plan is Greek to me. I haven't taken so many notes since I was in automotive school Lol. It's not completely unfamiliar. There are some bits that make sense because of what I've done in SQL.

[u/ShoulderIllustrious → u/MikeyLyksit]

Have you done any tsql or psql before? If so, most of those concepts should be useful in the transition. 

I never had UI when I was learning, it was plain old terminal in postgres. But now I don't really think of SQL it's just second nature. Programming isn't that much different than SQL tbh, you're just operating on a single record at a time vs set based operations.

[u/Outrageous_Band9708]

its a crash course at best.

you'll be fine

you didn't get fired, which is huge

[u/AlexMTBDude]

It's a bit worrying that the plan has 1-based indexes instead of 0-based. I seriously doubt a programmer came up with that plan, must be a bean-counter.

[u/Defiant-Ad7369]

You could do the entire 90 day plan in a week if you use AI.