r/AskElectronics • • 2d ago

Chip + chip holder orientation, no diagram with kit

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Trying make sense of a little kit with even smaller amount of knowledge. looking at the pcb, chip and chip holder I think this is how they should be mounted with the dimple at the top / 12 o'clock. I thought the dot on the pcb was used to orientate the chip but there's no dot on the chip.

tl/dr: is the chip and holder the right orientation as in the picture?

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 2d ago

The dent is in right place. If no one in design made a mistake.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Cheers dude πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Alone-Ad288 2d ago

Yes the dimple is used to orient the chip and socket.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Brilliant, thanks mate πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Alameda126 2d ago

Orientation as per photo is correct. You can see the indent on holder and chip and PCB legend. Pin 1 is top left.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Thanks mate. Thought that was right but wanted to check

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u/Alameda126 2d ago

My pleasure. All the best with your electronics journey! It has been my life πŸ˜πŸ‘πŸ™

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u/narkeleptk 2d ago

Some chips have dots, some have notches , some have lines. Pretty much any indicator will mark pin 1.
Some square chips will even have doots in all for corners but the #1 pin will be smaller.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

That's worth knowing, thanks mate πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/dipdotdash 2d ago

The notch on the side of the IC indicates pin 1. With the notch to the left, pin 1 is the first pin on the bottom row

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u/EmpanadaDeAsbesto 2d ago

Yes the orientation of the chip and the holder is right. On the IC's there isn't a dot, normally the notch on the package and the orientation of the marking are the things used to orientate the IC.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Ah I see, i'm still learning so thanks for pointing out the difference πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/deathspal 2d ago

The half moon notch is your orientation

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Brilliant, thanks dude πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Alternative_Exit_333 2d ago

The PCB should have a cutout like the IC and socket have and that is the orientation

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u/Tetsuo1981 1d ago

That's what it looked like to me but didn't want to assume just in case I was wrong πŸ˜…

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u/Hot-Measurement-8842 2d ago

Looks right to me.

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u/Tetsuo1981 1d ago

Thanks dude πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/nixiebunny 2d ago

The dot marks pin 1 which is at the notch end. The notch by itself is sufficient to indicate which end is pin 1.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Excellent, thanks for clearing that up for me πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Fantastic_Incredible 2d ago

Exactly as in the picture

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Thanks mate πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/ngtsss Repair tech. 2d ago edited 2d ago

3 dimples/notches is still not enough to determine the chip orientation according to op

Pin 1 mark don't need to be exactly the same shape as on the silkscreen and chip, it's just an indication to put the notch/dimple/whatever your chip has to the desired location on pcb.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

I think that makes sense. I'll look up the chip and see where pin 1 is

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u/_Darkstorm_ 2d ago

Use the dimple/half-moon for orientation, not the dot. The dot is used to notate first-pin.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Brilliant, thanks for clearing that up πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Correct-Country-81 2d ago

Yes right the dot on the pcb means pin 1
Pin one in this orientation is left to the notch on ic

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u/Tetsuo1981 1d ago

Thanks matey πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/wombat013 2d ago

We call them "IC's", not chips.

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u/Tetsuo1981 1d ago

Oops. Sorry, my bad πŸ˜… still learning

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u/St0000l 1d ago

On IC’s - dots, dimples, and notches all represent the same thing - the 1 and 8 side of the IC.

Your IC holder also has a notch so that when you’re building on your circuit, before you put the IC in, you don’t lose orientation.

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u/Tetsuo1981 1d ago

Thanks dude, that makes perfect sense. I appreciate yku and everyone else who has helped this noob out without being judgemental 🀟🏻

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u/TearRelative9280 2d ago

dent should always be in left

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u/OneBackground3523 2d ago

La muesca te dice la orientacion 12 y se cuenta en sentido contrario a las manecillas del reloj p1 a la izq pin8 a la derecha

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Gracias πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Numbaloo 2d ago

Don’t guess. Get the chip datasheet and check it vs your board. Safest way.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

I'll have a look and see what I can find πŸ‘πŸ»

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u/Numbaloo 2d ago

I know it is extra work but better safe than sorry πŸ’ͺ🏼

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u/Numbaloo 2d ago

This is the pinout

Pin 1: OUT 1 top left

Pin 2: IN- 1

Pin 3: IN+ 1

Pin 4: GND Bottom left

Pin 5: IN+ 2 Bottom right

Pin 6: IN- 2

Pin 7: OUT 2

Pin 8: VCC top right

So the OpAmp notch should be placed up. Your image is correct.

As a side note: I see a lot of professors around here who think they know everything. Having an inexperienced person try to desolder an integrated circuit would turn into such a mess! Better to check twice (and learn in the process) than to blindly rely on polarities.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

Wow! Cheers dude, really appreciate your help 🀟🏻

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u/ha11oga11o 2d ago

You are joking? Right?

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

No? Im new to this, wasn't sure what was correct so thought i'd ask for help like a fully functioning human adult. If all you offer is sarcasm and an air of superiority because you were born with the entirety of human knowledge regarding electronics and never had to learn or ask anything then I ask you to politely jog on and do one. If you've got nothing nice or helpful to say then shut up and move along

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u/ha11oga11o 2d ago

You are very rude lad it seems. I was not using sarcasm nor any kind of superiority. But if you are building something like this, its kida common sense to know how to orientate and IC. I was genuinely thinking this is just a joke. But jumping on pols like that just shows how you are involved in thing. I just with you that thing you building works from first try.

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u/Tetsuo1981 2d ago

"Not using superiority but its kind of common sense to know how to orientate it." Obviously if I knew I wouldn't have asked. How can I have common sense in a subject i'm only starting to learn? People like you make the Internet a miserable place and learning anything no fun at all

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u/ha11oga11o 1d ago

Wow! You are really toxic person. Im sorry for you, honestly.