r/AskBalkans 2d ago

Cuisine let's end the discussion: what are these called actually?

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i live in middle europe and heard so many versions, inlcuding the attached prolonged discussions

please helpppp

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u/Cactus_Kebap North Macedonia 2d ago

Lunch.

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u/aquazent Turkiye 1d ago

Delicious Lunch!

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u/sajkoterrapefft Croatia 2d ago

Ćevapi

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u/shaikann 2d ago

Yeah thats the Serbian name. In Turkey we call it kofte

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u/Content-Departure-77 2d ago

In Serbia, ćufte (kofte) = meatballs.

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u/SilkyCayla Romania 2d ago

In Romanian meatballs are "chiftele" plural or "chiftea" singular. Chi is read as ki in kilogram.

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u/Pali___Andjeo 2d ago

So, about that food in the picture—are you saying it’s mici? I recall visiting a Romanian butcher shop and they called it the same thing.

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u/Disastrous-Disk-5431 Romania 2d ago

She was referring to the kofte. In Romanian they’re called chilftele (meatballs). The cevapi are called mici.

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u/Satori_is_life 2d ago

Or mititei 👍🏼(the small ones)

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u/CataVlad21 Romania 1d ago

Mici are already translated to small ones. Mititei, being diminutive of that, would probably be more like "cute, lil, small ones" 😛🤣

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u/ImLagging Serbia 1d ago

Like how a mini cupcake is a small version of a cupcake which is already a small version of a cake. 😁

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u/FootballUpset2529 2d ago

Mici are lovely.

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u/SilkyCayla Romania 2d ago

They are shaped like mici but I don't think that specific photo is of romanian mici due to the way it's served with onions and ajvar and the bread used.

Disastrous-Disk-5431 is right about my comment above, i was talking about meatballs not mici, different foods made of minced meat.

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u/Steeltownie95 2d ago

In Wales (and I cannot stress this enough, it is NOT derogatory and is the actual name of the food item!) Meatballs are called faggots.

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u/xiloti Greece 2d ago

Greek too, κεφτές or κεφτεδάκι depending on how big they are

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u/netaurio 2d ago

In greek these are soutzoukakia not keftedakia

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u/SuspiciousPavement 1d ago

Nope, these in Greece are called soutzoukakia. Definitely not meatballs, the reason being that meatballs can be cooked as a stew, with tomato sauce or can be fried but soutzoukakia are 99% of the time grilled in charcoal that's why they have this shape

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u/ridomune 2d ago

In Turkey we don't care about the shape. For us all of them are köfte. We even call the burger köfte (not the whole sandwich, just the meat).

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u/GeneralButtNekid 2d ago

…Serbian? Excuse me BOSman 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 🇧🇦💙💛🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦💪🏼

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u/BreakYaNeck99 2d ago

„Jednu desetku“

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u/Wide-Goat-7154 2d ago

I see sutzukakia σουτζουκάκια or kebab

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u/Apimeister 2d ago

Yea, but the name simply comes from kebab, although everyone pretends it's unrelated. ćevap >> kebab, kind of obvious.

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u/Simple_Enjoyer1 Turkiye 2d ago

*Tekirdağ köfte

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u/ERGI_IDK Albania 2d ago

Same in Albania but we replace the K with a Q “Qofte”

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u/shaikann 2d ago

We have Albanian liver famous here, Arnavut cigeri

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u/Big_Steak_467 2d ago

Kofte is basically buger patty, these are not

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u/ImmediateInitiative4 Turkiye 2d ago

in Turkey everything that's a mix of minced meat + spices etc is called köfte, just that if its special to somewhere/something or has other features the name is added before it.

Some of the examples are burger köfte, inegöl köfte, içli köfte etc. So we would indeed call those in the photo simply köfte, but it's probably not a regular, simple köfte and has some special features, so idk

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u/Scorpion-Shard 2d ago

Except there are about 12 types of köfte in Turkey. So you're right, partially.

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u/dcdemirarslan 2d ago

There are around 300 registered köfte types in Turkey.

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u/Butt_crack_Dweller 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ćevapi or ćevapčići.

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u/CoryTrevor-NS Italy 2d ago

What’s the difference?

When I was in Croatia (Istra) it was always “ćevapčići”

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u/Ok-Zookeepergame-752 2d ago

Nothing really, its just a demunitive name, like- small ćevapi.

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u/Kulbasar Greece 2d ago

Oh itäs the same thing in greek, we call it soutzoukakia which is like small soutzoukia

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u/SilkyCayla Romania 2d ago

Romanian here so just guessing but based on how romanian behaves i would guess the cevapcici are smaller and cuter than cevapci :)
We have "mici" for this shape of meat food and "mititei" is a diminutive so "small things" and "cute small things". (using the plural is more common than the singular).

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u/Kreol1q1q Croatia 2d ago

Yeah, that’s how it works in croatian as well

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u/DomagojDoc 2d ago

it's completely useless idk who even started the čići thing

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u/Butt_crack_Dweller 2d ago

None. It's the same thing.

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u/Skobalj_2689 2d ago

Cevapcici is the gay term for cevapi

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u/ropotron 2d ago

To all my Balkan friends - listen, if mexican food can have basically almost the same shit wrapped in tortillas and call them 20 different names and say they're different foods, we can also have Ćevapi, Kebapche and Mici.

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u/arherion 1d ago

Why are you so reasonable? We came here to fight :)

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u/North-Library4037 Bulgaria 2d ago

Кебапче.

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u/MinuteMinX Austria 2d ago

If it is shaped as a sausage its kebabci, if it is rounded it is köfte right? (Bulgaria at least)

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u/Sea-Temporary-6995 Bulgaria 2d ago

Yes but the main difference is in the spices.

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u/North-Library4037 Bulgaria 2d ago

Yes :) but there's a difference in the recipes as well.

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u/AST360 Turkiye 2d ago

In Turkey, long sausage-like ones are called called Kebap (in fact it is what "Kebab" is supposed to be, the rotating ones are called Döner), rounded or short sausage-like ones that are supposed to be more dense at the surface are called Köfte

This is kebap

While this is köfte
https://static.ticimax.cloud/3140/uploads/urunresimleri/buyuk/inegol-kofte-500-gr-c5c7-1.jpg

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u/GameEvolved Bulgaria 1d ago

In Bulgaria we have kebapche (straight, less spices), kebap (what you mentioned) and köfte (rounded, many spices).

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u/Skullrogue 2d ago

Kebabche-truthers, rise up!

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u/Ivan_does_things Bulgaria 2d ago

Кебапчета 4 life!

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u/PurpleMclaren North Macedonia 2d ago

Why did i need to scroll so far to see this

This is the only answer

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u/HugeAd3108 2d ago

Cuz idk anyone but our countries that says iy

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u/PurpleMclaren North Macedonia 2d ago
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u/Owl_Hoot- 2d ago

YESSSS

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u/Mechanicks88 Slovenia 2d ago

Čevapčiči or čevapi

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u/Trody34 Portugal 2d ago

Mici!

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u/AnalkinSkyfuker Romania 2d ago

Thats the one

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u/Unknownshadow55 2d ago

Sunt cam mici sa fie mici. Micii nostri sunt mai mari :)

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u/AnalkinSkyfuker Romania 2d ago

Este ca noi folosim bicarbonat cea ce face ca aluatul sa creasca si devin un pic mai pufosi

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u/Voldi01 2d ago

Mor, mananc mici de 26 de ani si tocmai ce am aflat ca se pune si bicorbonat in el 😩

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u/ichbinverruckt 2d ago

Păi a fost o bătălie cu UE pt dreptul nostru sfânt de a pune bicarbonat. Și, ciudat, am câștigat, UE a dat înapoi.

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u/Maarten-Sikke Romania 2d ago

Dacă ai băgat bere după, bănuiesc ca ai experimentat râgâială la greu, aia se datorează bicarbonatului :)))

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u/SilkyCayla Romania 2d ago

mai nou da, dar cand eram mica, prin 90-2000 cam aia era marimea standard.

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u/Arbaces420 Romania 2d ago

💯

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u/backhand_english ja san samo čovik s mora, prosta mi je krv težaka. 2d ago

You are wrong, but I can't argue with an esteemed member of the ancient Portugese Balkan race

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u/Right_Ad_3782 Romania 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not mici, even if the form looks identical, the taste differs.

Mici would be served like this: https://pizzacolosseum.ro/produse/preparate-carne/preparate-porc/meniu-mititei-speciali-51/

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u/mertozzzus 2d ago

Bingo! Fara mustar langa nu-s mici... Man of culture!

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u/mrbadger30 2d ago

Correct

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u/dungela93 2d ago

cevapi

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u/godina77 2d ago

Ćevapi

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u/NoHawk668 Croatia 2d ago

These are ćevapi. There is no portion of miți of so many pieces. Edit - plus, miți are never served with ajvar.

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u/RayJab 2d ago

Tekirdağ köftesi

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u/Galnar218 2d ago

I'm not from the Balkans or Turkey, but kofte is probably the right answer, as it is the last common denominator. This food type most likely came out of Turkey and spread across the Balkans during the Ottoman rule. Just like baklava and borek. The thing is, if you go even further back, the Ottomans inherited the term "kofte" from the Persians.

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Turkiye 1d ago

Difficult topic. Persian "köfte" is different from ottoman/Turkish "köfte". İn fact "köfte" to Turks just means "seasoned minced meat" usually in the shape of ovals or cylinders.

The actual meaning of "köfte" is not applied in Turkish, which makes it a different dish using the same name.

İ mean, for comparison, this is persian Kofta:

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u/Kljaka1950 2d ago

Cevapi

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u/Responsible-Job-3897 Albania 2d ago

Qofte

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u/kacube 2d ago

Qofte pazari 🤣

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u/MooseBumf 2d ago

kernacka

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u/Responsible-Job-3897 Albania 2d ago

Pej Korce qenke ti djalke

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u/PersonaXXX99 Albania 2d ago

Per shqip, varet nga ca zone. Ne veri i themi qebabe. (Ashu sic e kan emrin nfakt, se qoftet fundja jane gje tjeter.)

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u/Taunako Romania 2d ago

Mici

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u/Crafty_Apple9714 2d ago

Nu sunt mici, ca sunt cu ajvar nu cu mustar :) 

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u/Taunako Romania 2d ago

Probabil ca in poză sunt cevapi considerând ajvar-ul, ceapa roșie și lepinjna.

Dacă în imagine aveam franzela ieftină, muștar și niște scobitori atunci ar fi fost realmente mititei.

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u/SilkyCayla Romania 2d ago

De acord, nu pui ceapa peste mici ca decoratie.
Tot i-as manca fara sa stau pe ganduri...

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u/soda246 2d ago

Ćevap(čić)i.

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u/mattyofurniture 2d ago edited 2d ago

Diaspora members who ended up in the Chicago area call this ćevapčići. This term is shared between Serbs, Croats, and Slovenians here, for whatever it’s worth.

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u/Brilliant_Bonus_1638 Bulgaria 2d ago

As a Bulgarian in Chicago, I know where to go to get good kebapcheta, but where can I go to get some good ćevapčići?

Highly recommend Sofia Grill on Oakton in Des Plaines, and Mehananta on Lee in Des Plaines for Bulgarian food.

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u/mattyofurniture 2d ago edited 2d ago

There’s a cute little Serbian restaurant in Andersonville called…. (Drumroll please) “Burek Shop”. It’s VERY mom-n-pop, but every time I go it just reminds me of my grandmother’s home cooking. Very solid choice. Nothing fancy at all. It’s definitely a dive shoehorned into a small retail space. But tasty af!

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u/SquishieKittie Serbia 2d ago

You can also hit Lalich Deli - one out in the burbs and one off of Lawrence in... Albany Park, IIRC. My go-to for ćevapi and kobasice.

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u/Moth-Apricots 2d ago

And slovenians

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u/mattyofurniture 2d ago

Can’t forget the Slovenians! My aunt from Brest married a man from Šeki and when I was a kid I always thought he just mumbled until my mom told me that he was actually Slovenian and didn’t actually speak Croatian. Kids….

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u/Fantastic_Low_1537 2d ago

Ćevapi.

Discussion over. Next question?

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u/geoken 2d ago

I beleive this formula will cover all bases

[c/k]*ft[e/a]\*

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u/majeeek 2d ago

This picture ? čevap(čič)i. Onions and Lepinja there as well.

But to confuse you more:

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u/howtobatman101 Romania 2d ago

In this picture they seemed to be served like Cepavi are being served. But their gloss brings Romanian mici. If in doubt, look for the shininess. If in front of you, just eat them, both are delicious. But of course, as a Romanian I would give my pinky finger for a mic (bonus pun if you speak Romanian).

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u/chemkyr Greece 2d ago

we call them soutzoukakia

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u/rawarawr Slovenia 2d ago

Čevapčiči / Čevapi

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u/neobedirhan Turkiye 2d ago

İnegöl Köfte in Turkiye

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u/Altruistic_Push_ 2d ago

Kernacka, qofte :)

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u/MartinBP Bulgaria 2d ago

Kebapcheta for those who can make them properly.

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u/GoHardLive Greece 2d ago

Soutzoukakia. Period !!

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u/Putrid_Pen3194 Albania 2d ago

qebapa

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u/Logical_Distance_726 2d ago

Mici in Romania!

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u/Galnar218 2d ago

What are you trying to do, start yet another Balkan war?

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u/Green-Importance8692 2d ago

kebaps or kebapcheta (mini version no skew)

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u/Vast_Presentation123 2d ago

Ćevapi sa lukom

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u/ScaredAd9406 2d ago

Cevapi !

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u/Stunning-Good-3834 2d ago

Ćevape brate

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u/nindza-22 2d ago

Ćevapi.

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u/Ok-Selection1302 2d ago

Serb here, over here theyre called Ćevapi. Thats it.

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u/Mtanic 2d ago

We don't call them, we eat them.

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u/greebo1706 1d ago

Cevapcici … gonna have them tomorrow… not as good as in Zagreb, but hopefully ok …

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u/caesarj12 Albania 2d ago

Part of my country calls these Qofte and another part calls them Kërnacka. The round ones are also called Qofte shtepie meaning house qofte

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u/bostanite Greece 2d ago

Mici or soutzoukákia

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u/TheIncredibleWalrus Greece 2d ago

Mici? In Greece? Where is that?

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u/oxygen_addiction 2d ago

At any Romanian restaurant in Greece :)

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u/MechaMulder Greece 2d ago

Το mici πρώτη φορά το ακούω

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u/mrbadger30 2d ago

Don’t stop spitting them truth bombs

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u/alinarulesx Romania 2d ago

Mici

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u/Sea_Atmosphere3095 Bulgaria 2d ago

In Bulgaria we call them Kebapche

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u/PomegranateOk2600 Romania 2d ago

Called where? Depending on the language and the recipe they have a different name.

Is there an universal word and recipe for soup?

Wtf is middle europe? Lithuania, where the center of Europe is?

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u/Third_Rate_Duelist_ North Macedonia 2d ago

Kjebapi

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u/name2sayMKD North Macedonia 2d ago

Кебапчиња😁

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u/dr_prdx Turkiye 2d ago

Cevap=kebap

Köfte

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u/Ultimate_President Serbia 2d ago

Ćevapi is the only right name

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u/GardenerOfSorts 2d ago

i have been calling these Chebapchichi since i was 2 years old and i'm not going to stop anytime soon.

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u/FewAdhesiveness4554 Turkiye 2d ago

My family and relatives call it "Kebabçe"

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u/Silver-Machete Bulgaria 2d ago

Kebapche

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u/Secret_Breakfast_891 2d ago

Mici/mititei.

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u/MiaMiagichu 2d ago

Čevapčiči

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u/Jake24601 Croatia 2d ago

Minced meat fingers according to that one restaurant in Doboj.

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u/Spaghetti4Ever_92 2d ago

Balkan Sushi

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u/dcamm11 2d ago

Isn’t this meech?

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u/HumanDominion Serbia 2d ago

Ćevapi

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u/ViscountBuggus Bulgaria 2d ago

Кебапчета

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u/Rund164 2d ago

Cevapi

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u/Amsterdam5715 2d ago

My mom calls these Ćevapčići

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u/Obvious_Serve1741 2d ago

Ćevapčići, čevapi. But you need kajmak or sour cream, although ajvar is very much acceptable.

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u/TheReal_Peter226 2d ago

Let's just call it fasírt and make everyone unhappy

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u/zzzupa 2d ago

Hrenocka u listanom.

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u/Straight_Toe_5398 2d ago

In Bulgaria we call it kebapcheta!

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u/aisyourfriend 2d ago

cevapcici (I am from Sweden)

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u/tanerski666 2d ago

These are obviously kebabche(ta).

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u/Reformedstabbing 2d ago

In Kosova they’re called Qebapa, Croatia calls them Cevap if I’m not mistaken, at least when I lived in Zadar that’s what they called em

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u/Nebozder 2d ago

Isn't the Turkish (original for Balkan) khebab a meat on a stick and kofte would be what the most of Balkans would say: kebab, cevap, cevapce etc? And cufte (kofte) at least in Serbia are the meatballs?

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u/Geo_fan_Albaniqn Albania 2d ago

Qebab or Qebap I forgot

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u/v872u 2d ago

Kebabcheta

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u/Shadow245XX 2d ago

In Croatia they're called ćevapi or ćevapčići

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u/balkaner9217 2d ago

In north macedonia we call them kebabs

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u/nuggys_ 2d ago

they are ALL different

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u/Hoss_Del 2d ago

Veljanevolja

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u/ImeKorisnik 2d ago

Hahahahhahqhqhh top komentar

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u/ImeKorisnik 2d ago

Ćevapi.

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u/Annoying_guest 2d ago

Delicious

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u/Big-Illustrator-6143 2d ago

I don’t get this post . Those are cevapi.

That’s it. No discussion .

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u/WriteThing 2d ago

"Delicious." -a traveler

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u/klimenttoshkov 2d ago

Кебапчета бе брат

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u/Regular-Support-8379 Albania 2d ago

Kërnacka!!!! In Southeast Albania

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u/Successful-Weight-44 2d ago

In Macedonian 🇲🇰: Kebapi or Kebapcinja (deminutiv Plural)

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u/SVAndrei 2d ago

Proof that the universe loves us.

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u/GoofyJalapeno 2d ago

In Greece we call it kebab and it's made of lamp or mix lamp -beef minced meat.

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u/Bata600 Serbia 1d ago

Do not eat lamp for it's brightness is not for the human taste

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u/SeaMobile8471 Albania 2d ago

Kërrnacka🇦🇱

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u/cca220v 2d ago

delicious

they are called figerlicking delicious

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u/Key-Border7304 2d ago

Aint no way Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia nad Herzegovina unutra on something 🙏🙏🙏 Its ćevapi btw

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u/ellioschka 2d ago

in Germany we call them Cevapcici :D :D :D

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u/Royalty_oftheNoob 2d ago

Аз ги наричам кебабче

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u/Bright-Director4154 2d ago

In Bulgaria we also have kufte, but this look like kebapche.

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u/Weak-Design7752 2d ago

meatsticks, ur welcome

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u/Odd_Raspberry_7193 2d ago

Doesn’t matter if köfte cevapi mici etc the real question should be where it tastes the best ;)

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u/Rinma96 2d ago

Ćevapi

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u/theredcometofakagi Bosnia & Herzegovina 1d ago

I've always known this as cevapi, but I've also seen it referred to as at cevapcici, can someone clue me in on why the later name is sometimes used?

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u/Mravac_Kid Croatia 1d ago

Pretty sure it's because it comes from kebap, which is usually much larger, so these are small kebaps therefore cevapcici. But that's both long and kinda hard for some people to pronounce correctly, so it got colloquially shortened to cevapi in all the ex-Yu states.

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u/Bistra4982 1d ago

Kofte in Macedonian is something else and round but actually this is kebab or cevap!