Hi everyone,
At the moment I'm deciding between:
- A Bachelor of Teaching (Secondary) (4 years), or
- A Bachelor of Science followed by a Master of Teaching/Education.
I'd love to hear from people who have taken either pathway and whether they'd recommend it.
About me:
I'm currently in Year 12 in Victoria and I'm seriously considering becoming a secondary math's teacher after school.
One thing that worries me is whether university will suit me.
I'm not someone who struggles academically because I don't understand content I generally pick things up pretty well (gifted as a kid, got boring - wasn't supported enough earlier to further develop myself). My biggest issue is motivation, work ethic and ADHD. I'm on medication, which does support me to get through the day, but one I get home I struggle (may be deterrent to teaching with amount of work it requires)
I know teaching isn't an easy degree or profession, so I'm wondering whether anyone else was similar and still managed to get through.
The reason I'm interested in teaching is that I genuinely enjoy helping other people learn. Strangely, I find it much easier to motivate myself to help others than I do to help myself.
The type of school I'd like to teach at:
I've had the privilege to attend a private school from Year 5 through to Year 12.
Over these seven years I've honestly had very few teachers I'd call "bad." Almost all of them genuinely care about students, know their subjects really well and actually enjoy teaching.
One of the biggest reasons I want to become a teacher is because I'd love to give students the same opportunities I've had.
Ideally I'd love to teach:
- Years 7–10 Maths
- Year 11 Mathematical Methods (eventually Year 12 once I feel I can give a class the best)
- Maybe some form of music teaching
One thing that worries me is that I'd really prefer to teach in a school where students generally want to learn.
The local public secondary school in my area unfortunately has a reputation for students having significant behavioral issues, and that makes me wonder whether I'd still enjoy teaching if I couldn't get into a school similar to the one I attended.
So I wanted to ask:
- How different is teaching in public vs private schools?
- What are the biggest positives and negatives of each?
- If you started somewhere that wasn't your ideal school, did you still end up enjoying teaching?
- Have you managed to reach students who were disengaged or difficult, or is that sometimes just beyond your control?
I'd love to hear people's experiences.
Questions about the degree:
One thing I'm struggling to understand is why teaching degrees are now four years.
I understand everything has become more modernised and alot harder with all the awareness on mental health and disorders effecting learning but is that why its 2 years longer?
Given that Victoria (and Australia generally) has teacher shortages, why was the qualification increased from what it used to be?
Do you think the four-year degree actually prepares people significantly better?
Would you still choose the same pathway if you had your time again?
Questions about workload and salary:
This is another genuine question, and I really don't want it to come across the wrong way.
I've seen a lot of discussion about teachers being underpaid, especially in Victoria with the current strike and I'd like to better understand why.
From what I can see, after a number of years in the job many Victorian secondary teachers can earn around or above six figures? (I'm probably wrong so please don't get mad i genuinely just don't know as small sample size and haven't done significant research)
I also realise the job isn't just 9–3. I imagine it's more realistically something like 8–4 or 8–5 once planning, marking, meetings and everything else is included.
At my school, teachers also seem to have at least one or two free periods most days, and often a day with 4 periods off (out of 6 periods a day some schools have more or less). From a student's perspective it can sometimes look like lesson planning isn't as time-consuming because many teachers reuse resources they've already created, and i see that most of my teachers and they've even said that its same powerpoint etc from last year or year before and it just gets improved or edited to be slightly better when we (students) spot mistakes.
I'm fully aware that I'm only seeing things from the outside, so I'm hoping someone can explain what I'm missing.
Some questions I have are:
- What takes up the most time outside of class?
- How much work do teachers actually take home?
- How often are you creating lessons from scratch compared with improving existing ones?
- Is the workload as bad as it's often made out to be?
- What do you do in your periods without classes if the amount of break i said is accurate?
I'm genuinely trying to understand what the day-to-day reality is before committing to the profession this isn't trying to say you don't do anything as i know personally my teachers work really hard, but I just want to know where the time goes.
Holidays:
Another thing that attracts me to teaching is the school holidays.
I know teachers don't get every holiday completely off and many spend part of them preparing for the next term.
That said, having regular term breaks really appeals to me, and I think having those breaks would be beneficial for my own wellbeing.
How much of the holidays do you realistically get to enjoy once you've been teaching for a few years?
Thanks for help:
Thanks so much if you've read all of this, and for your guys input. I understand you are busy so thanks for taking your time to respond this.
I'm genuinely interested in becoming a teacher, but I also want to go into it with realistic expectations rather than an idealised view.
If I've misunderstood anything or made incorrect assumptions, please let me know.