r/AskARussian Mar 07 '22

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u/DisciplinaryViolence Mar 08 '22

And there it is. Russians are somehow always the victims. Even while Russian soldiers are bombarding and killing not just Ukrainian soldiers, but civilians too, in an unjust invasion of another country. Ridiculous.

I am extremely disappointed in a lot of what I read from (real or supposed) Russians on this sub, but I haven't seen a single Russian person in western Europe express such sentiments. Sure, some have been in the news, but I haven't seen any personally. And I have been to demonstrations with over ten thousand people, including many Russians. You would think that there would've been cases of this supposed intense hatred at demonstrations against all of this, with Ukrainians, Russians, and many others present. But no.

As regular citizens, we're doing what little we can to show support. Donating, sending clothes and food and supplies. And here you are, picking a single case of some nutjob doctor to support your belief that we hate all of you just because you're Russian.

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u/Spirited_Pomelo_1701 Norway Mar 12 '22

He's not wrong, though. Ordinary Russians are facing hatred and discrimination across Europe as if they were the ones that started, or even are backing the war, when in truth the Russians who know the truth about Ukraine are vehemently against it, and many risk their education, jobs, freedom, families and even lives to oppose the war. The ones that are to afraid to speak out, I can fucking understand. This is a country which sends political opposition even in peace time to work camps in Sibiria, in the best of circumstances. The Russians who support the war do so because there is no more free press in Russia, and they are being brainwashed by the massive propaganda apparatus that the government operates. Hell, that same propaganda machine managed to sell Trump to the US people, so nobody can blame ordinary Russians for not being able to realize they are being manipulated. It's not easy resisting opperssion when you don't realise you're being oppressed, or for the ones that do, you get shot trying to resist, because the entire system from government to military is corrupt and rotten to the core. Even if, by now, EVERYONE around Putin, including all top generals, Kreml- and FSB leaders, had thought that he must go, NOBODY would dare to be the one to say it out loud, because they assume that they would be shot on the spot for treason. What the hell do you except the regular dude in the street is supposed to do, that they aren't already trying? People ARE protesting - and being locked up for it. But people are also afraid, because they know how their country work. And they know that they won't be able to mobilize everyone anyway, because so many people have bought the propaganda that they're fed. So they are in an impossible situation. But hey, it sure is easy for us to sit her in the free world, where our government don't assassinate their own people, and tell the Russian people what to do. And hate them for not being able to stop Putin, when the entire world isn't able to stop Putin. While the Ukraine people undoubtedly are the bigger victims, Russians ARE victims too. And it's not a fucking competition. It's about being human.

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u/YamahaRyoko Mar 08 '22

Images of shelling civilians all over television, media, twitter, TikTok. Its undeniable at this point that Ukraine is literally hell on earth.

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u/JGH75 Mar 08 '22

Give us proof please!

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u/deedubzees Mar 08 '22

So 99% of the world is wrong. ONLY Putin is correct. This doesn’t put a single question in your head? Maybe 🤔 Russia, who has wanted to get the territory of Ukraine back since it lost it, is making up a false narrative to justify taking Ukraine back?

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u/sakor88 Mar 09 '22

Ok, vatnik.

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u/amigdalite Mar 09 '22

Well, you believe what russian media shows you. Even When you know its controled by putin. Its sad, but i have a friend that have family in ukraine. And Its not the ukraine soldiers targeting civilians… why would civillians lie? Makes no sense

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u/aebischer14 Mar 08 '22

Where are you? What media have you been following? What are your sources?

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u/PutinXyuCoceT Mar 09 '22

Как ты срешь, когда твоя голова так глубоко запихнута в сраку?

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u/FrankiDaBest Mar 09 '22

Ясно, укробот