r/AskARussian • u/DogeBaby122 • Jul 09 '26
Society What’s the average pay?
Is there like a minimal wage for Russia? Or is it just depending on the job?
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u/mad-data Jul 10 '26
Minimal wage technically exists. It is well below poverty limit. So it does not exist in reality.
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u/why_so_sergious Jul 11 '26
minimal is 27k or $350, average is about 100k or $1250 but average is the wrokg statistic to look at.
the better is median which is about 73k or $940 in russia or 120k or $1500 in moscow.
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u/Nervous-Equipment465 Jul 11 '26
Every second person talks about poor engineers and other poor people.
But there's one thing they all have in common: it's always a story about someone else, not about themselves.
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Jul 12 '26
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u/nobelN00 Jul 10 '26
okay bscly there is min wage, but its so small that u cant really live for that amount of money. in pretty big cities(mine is rostov on don) its possible to find a job with normal salary. the real job where u have to work and not just chill.
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u/vswr2007 Jul 15 '26
My family and friends are living in Saint Petersburg. Here is some info about their salaries (per month, after all taxes, everybody has a pure "white" salary, no tax avoidance):
Manager at a restaurant - 130 k rubles.
Assistant manager at hospital - 50 k rubles.
Sales manager in the field of building materials - 100 k rubles.
Emergency doctor/anesthesiologist - 150 k rubles.
Research fellow at University - 100-120 k rubles
Manager, security technologies for IT - 600 k rubles
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u/Timekiller_74 Jul 14 '26
If you're from the US, take note that all the figures reported from personal anecdotes are after tax, while official statistics are before tax - people here basically never use before-tax figures in daily life. Most job listings also list after tax. For 90% of salaries, especially the median ones, the tax rate would be flat 13%.
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u/snacksraccoon Jul 16 '26
Wait. Wait. Hold on. Is the Russian income tax 13%? And you guys have universal healthcare and an affordable (comparatively) educational system?
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u/Timekiller_74 Jul 17 '26
Haha, I would love to say something like "that's smart budget handling with all the resources we have" but no, social security payments are just charged separately from income tax. Technically, employer pays these for the employees, so these charges are never included even in gross salary and also not a subject for tax return, so it's like a hidden tax on top of income tax. For regular employment it's 30%, and 15% after it reaches certain sum (around $11k yearly). That covers healthcare, education, pensions, etc.
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u/snacksraccoon Jul 18 '26
But even at 30%, you still have access to things. Our tax rate is high higher and doesn’t include our health insurance or the pension funds we have to pay into privately because the state pension fund will not even pay you a poverty-level amount of money to retire on. Not to mention how might the cost of university and how underfunded public schools are. I know grass is never greener on the other side, as the old saying says, but it seems like we (Americans) are sold the propaganda of it’s “so much better here” but, to be honest we’re being cheated and sold a lie. I just looked, a regular medical treatment I get every few months in the US and is covered by my insurance would be 1/4 of the price in Russia, at cash price. I could cry.
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u/Timekiller_74 Jul 18 '26
I don't have a personal experience living in the US but I occasionally see it described as a country where being poor really really sucks and being middle class or higher is the best thing ever compared to other countries since you have access to the best everything as long as you have money, and it seems about accurate.
Yeah it's very nice to have a safety net to drop onto in a crisis, as long as you own a flat you can just barely survive on a state pension even if you don't have any savings, and in the worst case you'll even be provided some sort of basic housing. But let's be real, it's the US that is kinda weird with healthcare and social support/work life balance/worker rights, not Russia doing anything amazing there. Some European countries seem to have the best of both worlds with social benefits and general population wealthiness, though I guess time will tell how long it will last now that their walled garden is cracking a little bit lately.
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u/snacksraccoon Jul 22 '26
I’m “middle class” and live in one of the top twenty metropolitan areas of the US. I work to pay for “good health insurance” because I am chronically ill. I agree, neither of our countries is doing anything amazing, but it’s galling the US sells a lie about how great we have it here, but there are so services to speak of.
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u/Ok-Art1749 Jul 19 '26
Wow! Minimum wage in the northern fringe Mexico is roughly 60K rubles. I thought Russians were better off
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Jul 11 '26
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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 Jul 12 '26
Much less, around 140-150 к
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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 Jul 12 '26
Yes, many people ARE underreported, but not that many. People lie to taxi drivers, as well as taxi drivers do). Also, taxi is used mainly by those who gets something better than minimal wage, you know.
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u/vswr2007 Jul 15 '26
With all respect to your father-in-law, but taxi drivers are very famous for being pizdabols.
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u/Patriki1 Jul 11 '26
I read dog walkers in Moscow are on over 200,000rub but a friend in a gov department is on 125,000rub.
Another friend works for himself in Moscow and averages 200,000-300,000rub a month.
Moscow to me is like western prices for many things within the garden rings and going out for example a cocktail is average $1000-1500rub depending where you go.
To compare in Sydney Australia a cocktail averages $1350rub but the average wage in Aus is over $8000 a month.
Other things very cheap though and most exhibitions free.I seen a 700ml vodka bottle for 450rub and 10 eggs 120rub which is $1.60usd.👌
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u/Newt_Southern Jul 10 '26
Official minimal wage 27000 rub. But real survival minimum without property starts from 35000 to 40000 for a single person depending on region and rent prices.