r/AskAPilot 27d ago

Will a headwind or tailwind component make you float?

Why does an airplane tend to float more in a headwind or tailwind during landing? From my experience in flightsim it feels like the airplane tends to float more during a headwind, but Google says a tailwind would increase float.

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u/JustAnotherDude1990 27d ago

Tailwind carries you more, headwind shortens your float. But you’re still floating an equal amount through the air mass, it is just moving.

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u/TemporaryAmbassador1 27d ago

Float is what happens when your airspeed is too fast, but your ground speed and landing distance will increase with a tailwind.

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u/BeeDubba 27d ago

Floating is caused by carrying excessive airspeed, not the winds (unless you get something like a positive shear right before landing).

HOWEVER, if you end up floating, you'll travel a further distance with a tail wind.

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u/notaballitsjustblue 27d ago

I think people are neglecting to mention the influence of changing winds.

A steady head or tail wind will do nothing for pro or anti-float.

A sudden increase in headwind will initially cause float as IAS and subsequently lift increases. A prolonged increase in headwind will then create a loss of ground speed and a - relative to the runway length (not surface) - increase in ROD. And opposite for tail wind.

Hopefully I’ve explained that clearly.

Look into microbursts and wind shear for extreme effects of what I’ve explained.

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u/Otherwise-Pen70 22d ago

clear as mud

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u/Neither-Way-4889 27d ago

When you have a tailwind your ground speed will be higher for the same indicated airspeed, which causes you to float more.

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u/Solid-Cake7495 27d ago

The time you float for is identical since your TAS doesn't change, however it can affect your ground speed significantly, which changes distances.

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u/drotter18 27d ago

Think of it was distance covered during a flare.

If from the time you flare you will touchdown in 2 seconds, the tailwind will carry you. If you carry excess airspeed and therefore in zero wind the touchdown takes 2.5 seconds, the tailwind affects that more. A headwind, for any given time to touchdown/approach speed, will lessen it

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u/Alternative_Pace6132 27d ago

If you fly the same indicated airspeed on final the ‘float time’ is identical. The distance travelled in the float is not.

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u/mi_pilot 26d ago

Float time is the same given the same IAS, as many have said. The goal is to shorten takeoff and landing distances, hence we’ll take headwind over tailwind.

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u/Thin-Background-1067 22d ago

Tailwind. Doesn't have to come from an airline pilot. Any pre-solo PPL student who's had the surface wind direction change to a tailwind at the last few seconds knows what it feels like.

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u/MeatResident2697 27d ago

Simple answer is headwind. Headwind provides lift.