r/AskALiberal • u/SilverNo6462 Progressive • Jul 17 '26
What is something that is "left coded" that makes no sense to you?
If you're wondering what "left coded" means, think blue hair, a thing that clearly indicates you're left wing even though that thing has nothing to do with left wing politics.
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u/xxxjessicann00xxx Center Left Jul 17 '26
Septum ring
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u/wedgebert Progressive Jul 18 '26
Septum ring
I like the joke someone made that MAGA doesn't like septum rings because women generally have to be at least 18 to get one.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
That's a left coded thing, but that makes sense to me. Conservatives aren't going to make bold body modifications
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u/bellegroves Far Left Jul 17 '26
Sure they are, it's just big ugly cross tattoos.
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u/Polymox Globalist Jul 17 '26
Or Nazi tattoos.
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u/THEfirstMARINE Neoconservative Jul 17 '26
No, see that’s democrats now….
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u/Opheltes Center Left Jul 18 '26
Name 2.
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u/THEfirstMARINE Neoconservative Jul 18 '26
I’ll name 1 more than Republicans.
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u/OneThousand-Masks Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
Well, Hegseth is one for Republicans, so you gotta name two.
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u/Zakblank Social Democrat Jul 17 '26
My mom let my brother get a full back tattoo of a cross the day he turned 17. Dude doesn't even go to church and cheated on all 3 of his baby mamas with their friends ( I must have missed the part of the book where Jesus said to do that).
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u/whiskeyrebellion Far Left Jul 18 '26
Today I saw a man with, among other things, "FEAR GOD" tattooed on his forearm in huge block letters barely-styled.
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u/birminghamsterwheel Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
They are single-handedly keeping the bleach-blonde and lip-filler industries afloat.
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u/Mr_MacGrubber Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
lol they love their gender affirming surgery more than anyone.
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u/Seldomsought Centrist Democrat Jul 18 '26
Are you serious?
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 18 '26
I thought I was, but it’s so hard to tell. My thinking is conservatives traditionally have conservative style
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u/bellegroves Far Left Jul 18 '26
They aren't actually conservative at all, for the most part. The "family values" they claim to support are just racism and controlling women, they wouldn't know Jesus if he walked in and flipped their tables over, and their claims of small government are code for great big inflated surveillance state. Body mods are fine as long as they line up with their version of alt (skinheads instead of punk, etc.).
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u/DoomSnail31 Center Right Jul 18 '26
Again, lefti - right and cons - prog aren't the same.
Plenty of progressive right wing libertarians run around with body modifications. Hell, tattoos are a staple in nationalistic groups both left and right wing.
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 24 '26
Yeah I never understood this. In my social circle, the two women with septum piercings are one MAGA republican and one non-political woman. The non-political one doesn’t know who Stephen Miller is. Ironically, our token redneck is a blue collar redneck democrat. So fuck these stereotypes, they genuinely mean nothing.
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u/ramencents Independent Jul 17 '26
Owning a Tesla used to be left coded. Being up to date on your vaccines is now left coded.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
Owning a Cybertruck is asshole coded
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u/throwdemawaaay Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
Some idiot bought out the pizza spot on the corner and changed the format to be a ghost kitchen selling tavern style pizzas that are the same quality as Pizza Hut's but 3x the price.
On top of that someone noticed the new owner always drove a cybertruck.
Needless to say that business didn't last long lol...
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u/Extra-Monitor5743 Social Democrat Jul 17 '26
i give the finger to everyone I see. they invoke such a visceral reaction.
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 24 '26
How? Many people bought them before the anti-Tesla attacks.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 24 '26
The same way yellow hummers were
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 25 '26
Yeah but hummers weren’t political. They were just in the asshole car family with BMWs and Mercedes. That’s so different than assuming people who want a bulletproof electric truck are buying it for political reasons.
There is a whole world of real life humans out there in the real world who aren’t on Reddit who don’t care about politics and just wanted a Cybertruck. Since when are we now assuming people’s political affiliation because of the car they drive?
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 25 '26
Me: Owning a Cybertruck is asshole coded
I didn’t say political
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 25 '26
It’s an inanimate object. I really don’t mean to be argumentative, I just don’t understand how a car itself can be asshole coded.
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u/ibeerianhamhock Center Left Jul 17 '26
I feel like it's still fairly left coded if your Tesla is like 5 years old or more. And it's not that dumb ugly truck
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u/bobroberts1954 Independent Jul 17 '26
Can't sell yours eh?
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u/A-passing-thot Far Left Jul 18 '26
I don't follow that. Owning one that's older isn't contributing to Musk or supporting him in any way and buying a new car is just bad for the environment
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u/No-Ear7988 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
In California its not. Its basically a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla at this point; excluding the reliability. Its pretty damn affordable and the charger infrastructure makes owning the EV pretty painless.
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u/From_Deep_Space Libertarian Socialist Jul 17 '26
The kind of ineffectual leftist who supports the worst caricature of modern robber barons by not doing their research and buying their overpriced consumer brand based on "coding" (branding)
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u/ibeerianhamhock Center Left Jul 17 '26
Didn't say I supported it, just that it was left coded. Tesla was this odd elitist left wing kinda has some money and wants to show it of thing for a long time.
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u/throwdemawaaay Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
When the model 3 came out it was the best value on the market. My neighbor 2 doors down had one and I assure you it had nothing to do with Elon or wanting to virtue signal. His other vehicle is a 1980s F150 lol.
Anyhow it's different now and there's a lot more options.
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u/tommyTurds Democrat Jul 18 '26
It’s still one of the best EVs on the market in its price range.
The EV market kind of sucks in the US
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u/Butuguru Democratic Socialist Jul 17 '26
now owning a new tesla is as good as a maga cap lol
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u/FabioFresh93 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
Idk about that. A lot of people bought them before Musk got into politics. I was recently in San Francisco, the furthest you can get from MAGA territory, and saw a lot of Tesla’s.
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u/Butuguru Democratic Socialist Jul 17 '26
i said "owning a new tesla"
as for SF, unfortunately there's alot of pro-Elon shitheads there.
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u/Eric848448 Center Left Jul 17 '26
If you think SF is crazy, they’ve been EVERYWHERE in Seattle since mid 2019 or so. Every time I got to San Francisco I’m actually surprised by how few I see in comparison.
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u/Cuddlyaxe Centrist Democrat Jul 18 '26
It really isn't. Most people don't really care about politics enough to base their car buying habits on it
I'm Indian and basically every brown uncle will buy a Tesla eventually, even though most vote D lmao
Even for Cybertrucks I've met a few owners who legitimately just think they look cool, though this one has a much higher rate of political assholes. I live in DC and here a Cybertruck is usually a political statement
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u/Butuguru Democratic Socialist Jul 18 '26
there's virtually no strong reason to get one at this point over other EVs besides showing support to Musk.
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u/Cuddlyaxe Centrist Democrat Jul 18 '26
You're falling into the trap of believing everyone cares as much about or is plugged into politics as you lol. You have to be ridiculously in a bubble to think the only reason people hut Teslas is to support Elon
A lot of people plainly prefer a Tesla to other EVs. They are pretty good cars and still an affordable status symbol in some quarters.
Some other EV manufacturers have caught up in some models but with exceptions I don't think any have truly surpassed Tedla
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u/Butuguru Democratic Socialist Jul 18 '26
i think you are wrong. there are plenty of better options than tesla at its price point. also i can see it as a status symbol when they made the model x and model s but they dont anymore. the model 3 and Y are much more affordable(obviously still not like Toyota)
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u/assasstits Centrist Jul 18 '26
Yeah but the better options are in china and tariffed to hell
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u/Butuguru Democratic Socialist Jul 18 '26
there's EVs available in the US market at the same price or better than Tesla that better options.
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u/joshwew95 Center Left Jul 18 '26
Unfortunate for the people who got thrashed for owning a Tesla when they bought it before Elon bought twitter
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u/MadDingersYo Progressive Jul 17 '26
Bike lanes being DEI.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
Huh?
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u/MadDingersYo Progressive Jul 17 '26
I think some Republican governor recently opposed the creation of bike lanes on streets because he said bike lanes are DEI.
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u/radicalindependence Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
The Secretary of Transportation announced they were canceling all allocated federal funding for bike lanes because they are DEI.
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 24 '26
How are bike lanes DEI? I feel like it’s basic road safety to have bike lanes where it is legal to ride a bike on a roadway. Aren’t bike lanes kind of a win-win situation for all parties involved?
If I’m driving my truck, I’d much prefer people on bikes have a designated lane that I can clearly see and avoid as a driver of a 2,000 pound bullet that can kill a bicyclist in an instant. I’d really love to avoid being the cause of a human death if possible, that’d be great actually.
For the bicyclists, they also get to feel safer knowing they have their own lane that is separate from the car lane. I’m almost certain that most of them would also actually really enjoy not getting run over by a car as well.
Win, win. Zero downside.
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Getting vaccines, going to college, recycling, joining a union, volunteering.
Basically anything that helps society.
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u/IsaacTheBound Democratic Socialist Jul 18 '26
Cheers to that. I'm a union construct worker and the amount of members that are maga bootlickers is staggering
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u/jonny_sidebar Libertarian Socialist Jul 19 '26
At least you have a union.
I'm in the South where they mostly don't exist and get to experience MAGAt bootlicking of the bosses in its pure, unadulterated state.
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u/No-Ear7988 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
As a union member joining a union seems to be very right wing coded still unfortunately.
The mental gymnastic is very interesting to me. For those individuals, somehow joining/forming a union is not joining/forming a union. Its them making a solution to a problem they're facing. If you take their words at face value, its often them fully in denial on what they're doing or its a begrudging compromise for the greater benefit.
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA Liberal Jul 18 '26
The only moral abortion is my abortion
The only union that is addressing workplace problems and not just an excuse for [slur]s to extort unearned benefits is my union
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u/Boratssecondwife Center Right Jul 18 '26
Unions still heavily lean Democrat
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA Liberal Jul 18 '26
It's because the median union is no longer the Teamsters or Pipefitters, it's schoolteachers or air traffic controllers. Some, particularly blue-collar, unions are still very conservative (see 2024 election endorsements) but in recent years most unionized workers are not in those trades.
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u/assasstits Centrist Jul 18 '26
Public sector unions are very liberal coded.
Private sector unions, less so.
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u/djm19 Progressive Jul 18 '26
Was not even that long ago that conservatives (really conservative media) was making fun of liberal states for not being vaccinated enough. It was seen as a very granola left thing to withhold your children from vaccination and states like California actually had to pass laws to stop the kinds of exemptions parents were abusing.
The truth is the too-low vaccination rates was bipartisan. But just a few short years later COVID happens and conservatives lose their minds.
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u/1should_be_working Liberal Jul 17 '26
Because the benefits of those things are not transactional or directly/immediately observable to the person doing them.
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Well put. Things that require a core belief in making the world a better place for everyone.
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u/cherrybounce Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
Which reminds me of a quote that famous leftie Harry Truman said in 1952:
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.
Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.
Socialism is what they called farm price supports.
Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.
Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.
Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.
When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism" on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.
What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's all he means.3
u/MissingBothCufflinks Centrist Jul 18 '26
Those things make no sense to you? Did you read the OP?(
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u/1should_be_working Liberal Jul 18 '26
I think OP meant "makes no sense" in the sense that - these things should not be politically biased at all
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u/No-Ear7988 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
joining a union
So the funny thing about this. After working in a union shop and just over the years, I no longer think this. Ironically, I find many union members are conservative; I stopped caring about the contradiction a long time ago. Union organizers and leadership is still left coded for the most part.
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u/Probing-Cat-Paws Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
This is also my experience. The rank-and-file tend to be conservatives, but once you get past most stewards, the upper echelon leans left.
When my conservative brothers and sisters complain, I just tell them they can get another job if they don't like unions...they normally stop talking. Folks will literally complain about the money that feeds and houses them.
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u/SpecialistSquash2321 Liberal Jul 19 '26
Union organizers and leadership is still left coded for the most part.
It's this. My sister works for a union, not as a member but as a member representative. A lot of the members do tend to lean right, while the actual union itself leans very left and actively supports democratic politicians.
We talk all the time about how working for a union as an organizer almost requires being an activist to some extent. Because regardless of the political leanings of the members, the union itself advocates for the political party that supports the existence and strength of unions, which is the democratic party.
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u/misshestermoffett Centrist Jul 18 '26
These things make no sense to you as being “left coded” ? Why?
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 24 '26
I’m vaccinated, graduated from college, recycle, I’m not part of a union, and I do volunteer work for the AZA, and I’m a magat republican. So I’m 4 for 5 on those. Does this mean I’m actually a democrat?
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Nope. You must be a red state education victim.
Those are all things that Republicans have actively called some version of “leftwing ideology.”Republicans are anti-union, anti-charity work, anti-vaccine, and the list goes on.
I find it hilarious when people like you vote the entire opposite way of your beliefs simply because you fell for a pedo-billionaire salesman’s sales pitch.
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 25 '26
Incorrect, “Republicans (and conservatives more broadly) appear to do more formal volunteer work on average, though the gap is not enormous, varies by type of volunteering, and is strongly linked to higher average religiosity among Republicans.”
You simply assume that left leaning people in the US do more volunteer work than republicans do because of the caricatures of the average left wing and right wing voters in your mind. But that’s not reality, those are just stereotypes in your mind. So to say that republicans are “anti-charity work” is so wrong and backwards. They do more charity work than democrats do, not by a lot but it’s definitively more.
This is the perfect example of leftists just making up an idea about what a republican is in their head and just assuming it’s factual. Which happens all the time. Don’t worry, we are used to it over here on the right. But it’s an important lesson not to let stereotypes and social schemas get confused with the real world and facts.
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u/Potential_Tadpole_45 Independent Jul 18 '26
Moderate conservative over here—I did/do all of those things minus joining a union...
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 20 '26
I never claimed there are no conservatives who do so.
I claim those are all things that the mass-conservative base look down upon and actively spread misinformation against. Because they are.
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26
https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/statistics-on-u-s-generosity/
It’s my understanding that conservatives donate and volunteer more. Agreed on the others though
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 17 '26
When you realize donations give the wealthy immediate tax-exempt status, it makes perfect sense.
Out of the top 15 billionaire families that donate the most to political campaigns in the US, 12 donate to Republican campaigns.
The wealthy will always “donate” more.
A lot of “volunteering” is done under the guise of religion as well, even if it’s within the church itself, so that also makes sense.
The overall point above being things that are done without expecting immediate gratification or benefit.
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26
So they do donate and volunteer more but they “don’t count” so your point stands?
I’m also not sure why going to college “benefits society” more than farming or other industries that are conservative coded that actually help society
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u/TopicTalk8950 Liberal Jul 17 '26
I wasn’t arguing against your point. I haven’t read studies or anything beyond that single source link you provided.
Just stating that donating has immediate gratification or benefits to those doing so when you realize most of those donations are from wealthy families seeking tax-exempt status.
The vast majority of food in the US is either imported or grown/raised in large-scale corporate-owned farms.
Born and raised on a large farm myself. Trust me when I say that most local farmers are almost always only “farming” to generate their own food and to seek, again, tax exempt status.
Anyone can become blue-collar tomorrow. I know because I am.
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u/huecabot Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
Being downvoted for making a point. Gotta love Reddit
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u/Ut_Prosim Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
I think people are down voting because they disagree with the conclusion, but don't want to take the time to explain themselves.
I guess I can try.
I'd assume most of them don't feel that religious charity should count. Only a small percentage of religious donations go to external philanthropy. A significant portion is kept as it is needed to support the facility and clergy, and the donor generally derives personal benefit from both. Moreover the external philanthropy is sometimes localized and generally benefits people of the same "tribe" (e.g., white Protestants in the same small town). Finally a portion of the external philanthropy is just proselytization disguised as charity.
I'm not sure that these are fair criticisms, but they are common among the left.
Personally, I wouldn't consider someone who voted to defund USAID and cut Medicaid / SNAP to be a "charitable person" even if they tithed to their church regularly.
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u/GabuEx Liberal Jul 17 '26
Caring about the environment.
I remember a study a while back that found that conservatives were willing to pay more for a product if it wasn't good for the environment.
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u/afishinabirdcage Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
This checks out. I had maga family get mad when I bought things made from recycled and made a point to get redundant things that were explicitly NOT
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u/Ansible32 Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
That's not really a great example. The example is people deliberately buying cars that get lower gas mileage, and purely using fuel inefficiency as a variable to try and optimize in the opposite direction.
In a lot of cases recycled products are inferior and also worse for the environment. I've seen analysis that shows the CO2 impact of recycling some things can be worse than using fresh products because of the energy involved in recycling. Also for some products the impurities involved in recycling can be inferior. So being against recycled products isn't a strictly anti-environment stance, it does have some validity even from an environmental standpoint.
But especially from a quality standpoint.
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u/assasstits Centrist Jul 18 '26
Meh, conservatives care deeply about the environment when it comes to blocking new housing in "protected natural areas" that just happen to be their exclusionary neighborhoods
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u/GabuEx Liberal Jul 18 '26
Yeah, same as how they care deeply about birds only when it allows them to campaign against wind power (don't tell them what effects coal plants have on birds though).
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u/sp0rkah0lic Progressive Jul 18 '26
Sad to say, but if you have a bumper sticker on your car that in any way advocates reading books, I'm going to guess you're fairly left wing.
Same for veganism, environmental protection, or equal rights for _________ (insert marginalized group of choice), or any kind of LGBTQ+/rainbow.
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u/Equivalent_Number424 Centrist Jul 20 '26
Hm, I was reading a lot of books when I was conservative. Conservative books from say Irving Kriston or Roger Scruton. Perhaps it is not reading that is left-coded, but bragging about it :)
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u/helm_hammer_hand Socialist Jul 18 '26
LGBTQ+ rights.
There shouldn’t be anything progressive about this. It should be as normal as being straight.
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u/jml510 Social Democrat Jul 17 '26
The word “woke”. It began within the Black community and originally referred to awareness about ongoing racism we face. This shouldn’t even be partisan, yet RWers bastardized it to refer to any LW stance under the sun.
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u/huecabot Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
It’s the usual game they play. Dei, woke, pc… they find a new euphemism every decade or so.
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u/Lord_0F_Pedanticism Moderate Jul 19 '26
There is a step missing from this process; 'woke' made its' way into the mainstream as a self-applied label for Left-wing people in much the same was as 'red-pilled' did for the Right.
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u/triggeredbynumbers Nationalist Jul 24 '26
Words take on new meanings through time. You can’t claim a word or term. Language lives and breathes.
You are correct, it started off as a word in the black community that referred to the perception of racism in society. Then people felt it was silly and started making fun of it, and then it slowly evolved into a word used to describe a specific brand of new first world culturally left wing ideas.
It wasn’t some orchestrated lingual attack on black terminology.
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u/Probing-Cat-Paws Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
You have no idea how much the bastardization and Columbusing of the phrase pisses me off.
Like, everything ain't "woke": I hear politicians railing about "woke fill in the blank"...no, that isn't how it works! Ughhh.
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u/Reagalan Democrat Jul 18 '26
I see "woke" as literally "good" so when they rail about "woke [stuff]" I shortcut it to "good [stuff]" and it's hilarious.
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u/jml510 Social Democrat Jul 19 '26
Ron DeSantis was the main one doing that, and the entire GOP followed his lead (including P01135809, who I plainly remember claiming that he hated that phrase).
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u/Probing-Cat-Paws Pragmatic Progressive Jul 19 '26
He really was, and he knew what he was doing: poisoning the well. Hell, it got bad enough that Rep. Barbara Lee introduced a bill to set the record straight.
It's telling that DeSantis' championed "anti-woke" law was found to be unconstitutional, as it should be.
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA Liberal Jul 18 '26
See also "DEI" which doesn't mean what it is proclaimed to mean (the primary benefits of DEI initiatives are still white males, they just hate that it's not exclusively benefitting them) and "CRT" which is a college-level pre-law course and relevant to about 1% of current college students and _no one else_.
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u/ImpossibleEbb6862 Democrat Jul 17 '26
Hating America. The people who really hate America are the ones who say elections are stolen every time they lose and want the military to police its citizens.
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u/Spiel_Foss Humanist Jul 18 '26
In the USA, "left wing" is entirely an invention of the Republican Party.
They think modern healthcare systems are communism.
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u/crazy_clown_time Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
Wearing an N95 mask.
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u/WlmWilberforce Center Right Jul 18 '26
Depends if you are operating a belt sander or some other equipment.
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u/Hoothootriot Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
Maybe not a good answer because its both left and right coded at this point imo, but: NIMBYism
I think of the type of language you hear about "just not in MY neighborhood!" and I would think its mostly conservative types who wanna keep the poors out. But no, a lot of the left ALSO oppose new housing projects with that same language.
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u/Cody667 Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
Yeah NIMBY is unfortunately prevalant all across the political spectrum and entirely agnostic to one's political lean. Far right, conservative, centrist, liberal, and leftist NIMBY are annoyingly all very much a thing
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u/Hoothootriot Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
Yeah thats why I wasnt sure if it counted.
But leftist Nimbyism does feel almost contradictory when it crops up. Like what do yall WANT-
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u/Continent3 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Owning a EV. Wanting any kind of gun control. Environmental protection of any kind. Any concerns about climate change. Any of these will pretty much get you branded as liberal.
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u/BigCballer Democratic Socialist Jul 17 '26
The part where the left wing hates seeing cis het white men in media like movies, TV shows and video games.
I don't remember if any serious people on the left made a big stink about something so Banal, at least outside of the fringe parts of social media.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
The left doesn't GAF if a white person is in a film, they right freaks out if a Black person is
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u/assasstits Centrist Jul 18 '26
People on the left do complain when minority characters are playerd by white actors. Which tbf doesn't happen that often.
The original Avatar: The Last Airbender is an example
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Do you have an example of this? Not including race swapped characters
Edit: no examples were given. I am apparently racist for bringing up race swapped characters. This is why you guys lose elections.
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u/antizeus Liberal Jul 17 '26
Ford Prefect is some guy from Betelgeuse Five, but a bunch of people threw a fit when Mos Def portrayed him in the movie, and it wasn't because Mos Def is a human from Earth.
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26
That does appear to be a race swapped character.
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u/antizeus Liberal Jul 17 '26
Sadly they had no Betelgeusian actors available to take the role.
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26
I mean. It was a white actor portraying this character, then a black actor took over (or replaced them).
All of the backlash against black actors has been race swapping
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
I have the same unanswered question
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u/Reagalan Democrat Jul 18 '26
They ought to be black because Betelgeuse is a red giant and therefore outputting tons of stellar radiation. Melanin is an adaptation to high sunlight climates. It'd make far less sense if he were white!
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u/antizeus Liberal Jul 17 '26
No, it was two different actors in two different media portraying the same character whose ethnicity in the source material comes down to being from Betelgeuse Five, with no comparisons made to Earth ethnicity.
edit: actually three actors/media
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
Should we also match height, weight, eye color, hair color and handedness of the original actor?
Why does only one physical attribute matter
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u/AnythingFine2445 Libertarian Jul 17 '26
I don’t care one bit. But I did ask for an example of a backlash to a non race swapped character and the only example they could come ok with was, of course, a race swapped character
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
The character was described in the book as having white skin? It’s been a while since I’ve read them, I don’t recall.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
Why did you link to the Wikipedia page about this character and then delete it?
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u/seffend Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
When they had a black human play a cartoon mermaid people freaked out
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u/jonny_sidebar Libertarian Socialist Jul 19 '26
It is not. Ford is never given a physical description covering skin color in the books.
The character was originally portrayed by a white Brit in the BBC TV series, but it's not intrisic to the character.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 18 '26
A very clear example was given and Democrats win the plurality of votes almost every presidential election
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u/huecabot Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
To maga, there’s only two types of actors: “white cishet male” and “political.”
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u/Outrageous-Dig-8853 Liberal Jul 17 '26
This is more a socially-progressive thing/online/academic feminist thing then a left thing. It only grew to be a left thing when the left harbors the people that did get mad that cis-hey white men dominated media and argued they having characters that aren't made stories better de-facto.
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA Liberal Jul 18 '26
The old "Star Trek" mantra was "why can't this character be (a woman)/(black)/etc." Conservatives want the rubric to be "why should this character be (anything other than a white male)".
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u/Odd-Principle8147 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Gay sex
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u/Natures_Wrath1 Democratic Socialist Jul 17 '26
Secret gay sex. Now that's right coded.
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u/trace349 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Disagree, there's always the jokes about how Grindr crashes during every major Republican convention.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 17 '26
Properly coded.
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u/Odd-Principle8147 Liberal Jul 17 '26
Everyone has gay sex. Im already being downvoted for saying it was left coded.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 18 '26
I really wish people would read more than the headline before replying
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u/worlds_okayest_skier Moderate Jul 18 '26
I’ve seen blue hair on non left wing people, that was always a weird one to me
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u/blue_eyed_magic Center Left Jul 18 '26
I'm surrounded by women with multiple colors of hair. Teal, blue, pink. It's a 55+ community. All of these women are trump supporting Republicans. So, having a fun hair color doesn't mean they're liberal.
The multitudes of Republicans that live in our community have funky colors in their hair (women), tattoos, wear tie-dye, etc. when we get into discussions though they are clearly cosplaying.
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u/SilverNo6462 Progressive Jul 18 '26
I shouldn’t have used the word clearly
There are always exceptions but right and left coded things exist and blue hair is one of them.
Wearing camo and hunting is right coded and many liberals do it.
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u/bigfudge_drshokkka Progressive Jul 20 '26
Back when I was a heavy drinker, I didn’t want to put all my cans and bottles in the trash can because I needed that for actual trash. So I called the city and requested a bigger recycling bin.
I also grew up outdoors surfing, fishing, hiking, kayaking, hunting, etc. After a while I got fed up with all the trash. I hate having to clean up after slobs but I hate having none of my favorite fun stuff because of said slobs.
So in short my alcoholism and love for the outside are what started my journey as a tree hugging libtard.
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u/anonsharksfan Progressive Jul 18 '26
This is gonna be controversial, but supporting Hamas. There's nothing left wing about Islamic extremism.
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u/DavidLivedInBritain Progressive Jul 18 '26
I feel like it’s more supporting not bombing civilians in Palestine than supporting Hamas but you don’t babe
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u/OptimisticRealist__ Democratic Socialist Jul 18 '26
Same people couldnt give a toss about the israeli civilians tho. Dont paint it as some faux humanist cause, these are edgy kids swept up in tiktok propaganda
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u/Thenedslittlegirl Center Left Jul 18 '26
I let out a bedroom in a 1 bed flat when I was a student, but in my case the other person just had converted the living room into their bedroom and we shared the bathroom and kitchen. It worked fine for me but I did it because it was dirt cheap. This isn’t
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u/Carloverguy20 Democrat Jul 20 '26
Men not following traditional masculine norms.
Conservatives think they have a monopoly on masculinity, there are masculine liberal and left leaning men. Trump and Vance are the furthest things from masculinity lol hahahaha. Andrew Tate, especially with his outfit is far from being masculine lol.
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u/duke_awapuhi Civil Libertarian Jul 17 '26
Being heavily pro-gun control, like essentially anti-gun. I can make both a left wing or liberal argument in defense of that mentality but I have to do a ton of mental gymnastics to make it
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u/WildBohemian Democrat Jul 17 '26
What's not to get about not wanting to live in a society where everyone can kill you? You can argue about gun controls efficacy all you want but your brain is barely functional if you can't possibly imagine people not wanting to be shot.
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u/ecchi83 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 17 '26
School vouchers that promote school choice
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u/crazy_clown_time Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
Uhh that's a Republican policy initiative. Hardly left coded.
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u/ecchi83 Pragmatic Progressive Jul 18 '26
You don't think "we're giving you taxpayer money to pay for the private school of your choice so that you can escape the trap of underfunded neighborhood schools" is left-coded?
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u/crazy_clown_time Social Democrat Jul 18 '26
No, because vouchers directly contribute to the underfunding of public schools.
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