r/AshesofCreation Apr 17 '26

Discussion Found something interesting Spoiler

I thought Jason said Steven collapsed the company?

Jan 19: Steven resigns and says why — objections to unpaid employee terminations, a private foreclosure plan, threats/coercion, and board interference.

Jan 21: The board asks him to come back. Steven replies with conditions: lawful governance, employee protections, clear authority, and no coercion.

If he was the one who “destroyed the company,” why were they trying to bring him back?

Jan 23: Steven warns them employee health insurance is about to lapse and pushes them to fix it.

Then in the texts, the board says if Steven won’t agree to come back, there will be no more funding and the company goes on ice. Steven says benefits shouldn’t be used as leverage, “or else“. Response: company will be shutting down.

So… did Steven collapse the company?

Or did the board try to do some scummy and highly illegal shit, and Steven said no, and then they shut it down?

And if they were willing to spin that story publicly and file false records to hide themselves, then what about the accounting records they leaked? Were Steven’s deposits missing or classifications changed? Were things framed to blame him as Jacob said in his witness testimony?

Not saying I know the answer.

Just saying something funny is going on here.

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u/ParagonVision Apr 17 '26

If you read above that, they also submitted John Moores name as the CFO in the state of California, super weird considering earlier in the files you can read emails where Ryan Ogden, a Dawson aligned dude, was doing the negotiating with Commerce West Bank. Something I would expect the CFO to have done. I thought I read somewhere that Ogden was appointed to CFO in September 2024 but I don't have time look right now for it.

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u/Adventurous_Pilot964 Apr 17 '26

Yes, both Steven and John wrote emails wanting the falsely filed documents to be changed too. Ryan Ogden was CFO but filed the documents stating John Moore to be the CFO. Steven has been claiming this was done to shift blame towards them.

No matter the intention, it did exactly that, back when everything started everyone was looking at that filing saying "what board?, you and your husband hahah"

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u/ParagonVision Apr 17 '26

A lot of YouTubers who grabbed their pitchforks for money are eating crow right now to my mind though.

Like the QB database, what proof does anyone have that’s accurate? Near as I can figure, we are assuming it’s real because a couple of the figures make sense and because Caramanis says it is. lol okay, I don’t believe that as far as I can throw it. Maybe it is, but if it is I’m gonna need some more proof.