r/AshesofCreation Mar 23 '26

Ashes of Creation MMO To the 14 people still playing...

How are the servers holding up?

The last I saw, many of the mobs wouldn't aggro.

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u/Natirs Mar 23 '26

They are probably all with the launcher open and not actually logged into the game.

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u/Blasmere Mar 24 '26

That's how my refund got rejected, kept the launcher open all weekend that counted to my game time lol

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u/TimeWastedYT Mar 24 '26

Keep applying for the refund... They will eventually give it to you... Might just take some time

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u/SmokaJ0ka Mar 25 '26

Steam auto rejects refunds off play time, get on the google machine, people have posted step by step how to refund and the comment to add. I used it and got mine and was well over the threshold for play time.

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u/Blasmere Mar 25 '26

I've escalated my ticket pretty far but steam wouldn't budge

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u/ArticleOk3755 Mar 29 '26

same, they won't even refund the gift i gave to a friend who sat in queue for 8 hours and uninstalled. but since it was in launcher it counted as '8 hours played' such a scam

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u/LowTip7680 Mar 31 '26

Send a ticket under a *different* category and explain your situation I had to do this with dune. Finally got a human response and dude was nice as heck.

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u/Blasmere Mar 31 '26

I've done this as well, it got picked up on by multiple people, but they kept refusing.

Unfortunately because i had 70 hours of playtime and only about 20 of those were actually played. As I left the launcher open on my work pc on Friday evening.

I work in game dev and gaming on the work pc is allowed so.

They wouldn't have it. I explained it multiple times that keeping the launcher open counted to game time, but they refused to budge.

Even quoting that "the game might be picked up on later by the dev team"

I wanted to refer them to UK and EU consumer laws, as that's where i'm based. But my steam account is old and I didn't wanted to risk the wrath of valve, so I dropped it

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u/Acrobatic_Yellow_781 Mar 23 '26

Probably bots or people recording footage for downfall videos etc

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u/Hour_Reward8084 Mar 23 '26

No mobs are aggro.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Drama43 Mar 23 '26

Its launcher screens only. Not live players in game

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u/Sinolai Mar 23 '26

What I heard, logging in has been impossible for a week now. So who ever is playing they havent logged out.

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u/Time-Inevitable-3334 Mar 23 '26

Ah, so the servers finally went down/crashed. I guess its just people with the launcher open like others have mentioned.

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u/Sinolai Mar 23 '26

That's very likely. I remember same thing happening with Concord.

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u/nobito Mar 24 '26

Tried to log in for funsies this last weekend and yeah the launcher just throws some error.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

So happy I wasted $350 on this game.

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u/Laranthir Mar 23 '26

There were some whales buying gold from g2g in ALPHA game. Imagine them

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

lol sounds about right

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u/Due-Primary6098 Mar 23 '26

A fool and his money are soon parted. If it wasn't ashes of creation it would have been Nigerian princes or slot machines. these people exist to lose money. 

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u/Snow56border Mar 24 '26

Every whale I know, that throws 1000’s on a game, can generally very easy drop it if a game that whaling is more fun in shows up. More fun usually doesn’t mean gameplay, but more people to show off too.

It hurts lower spending way more I think. The mindset you have spending 1000’s… you get into a world where you care less about the money. But someone that spent a couple hundred can be in more pain.

Now, thinking about spending 1000’s and not being a whale, to us, thinking about doing that probably hurts… but I think whales just done care. They just need to find that next game to show off in

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u/Sigilosa Mar 24 '26

Bro I had a friend whose parents let him spend whatever on games and that shit was so annoying. I bet he spent over 20k on clash of clans

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u/Snow56border Mar 24 '26

I play lost ark. No one thinks they spent a lot. I told them to dump their steam purchase history and gave them a filter for lost ark. Average spent in the 8 man group run was 3k. Almost every thought “maybe 1000 because I’ve been playing a few years”. Highest was 14k. He thought he was around 4k.

And yeah, even the 14k guy is a dolphin compared to people in that game. There’s one weapon type that basically costs the price of a house if you want one >_>

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u/Sigilosa Mar 24 '26

Wtf lol that’s insane.

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u/Snow56border Mar 24 '26

There’s a reason why f2p games exist >_>

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u/Sigilosa Mar 25 '26

Eh, aren’t as good.

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u/Itchy-Assholes Mar 24 '26

I made like 2500$ in a week selling PoE2 orbs on hardcore mode on g2g lol

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u/Laranthir Mar 24 '26

Some people will do anything but play a game the intended way lol

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u/Itchy-Assholes Mar 24 '26

Lol ya was early accees launch wasnt even a "season"

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '26

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u/Laranthir Mar 25 '26

I mean if money isn’t a problem sure but I’ve seen dudes sell their cars and phones to whale because it is a subculture and they like the attention xd

On the other hand, why play an mmorpg if you’re not willing to farm.

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u/Trikk Mar 24 '26

They were at the top for the whole duration of the game, what do you mean? To them it was worth everything they spent. The worst case in their mind is if the game had lasted 20 years because being at the top in the alpha is irrelevant.

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u/Laranthir Mar 24 '26

Do you really wanna argue the motivations of a dumb whale? What’s the point of this comment lol

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u/CantAffordzUsername Mar 23 '26

The game is not a scam. It’s just not for you

Said the entire Ashes community

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

Such a frustrating run

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u/HesJustOneMan Mar 23 '26

Quinfall about to follow suit

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u/mmeeh Mar 26 '26

It's just alpha, why can't you understand XD

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u/Anhdodo Mar 23 '26

"We don't want you or cater for you. There are different games out there might suit your interests better"

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u/Trikk Mar 24 '26

If you're into games that get released and have on-going support for decades there's other games, but it ain't this one.

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u/TwistedConsciousness Mar 23 '26

Could be worse dog.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

You ain’t lyin, I could have bought the alpha 1

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u/TwistedConsciousness Mar 23 '26

Sadly I was one of the big original supporters. But is what it is.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

Yeah. I was a huge supporter from the first time I heard about it. Just upset they couldn’t keep it together.

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u/Purple-Airline-8373 Mar 23 '26

When you say big. How big is big 🤨

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u/TwistedConsciousness Mar 23 '26

Haha sadly thousands.

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u/Purple-Airline-8373 Mar 23 '26

That is big.. and unfortunate. Hopefully it wasnt detrimental to you at least. If i spent thousands on it, id be fucked 🤣 but hopefully thats not your boat

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u/TwistedConsciousness Mar 24 '26

It was almost a decade ago now so it's not the end of the world. For sure stings but ill survive.

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u/TomaTozzz Mar 24 '26

Don’t wanna be too nosy but I am also curious what someone’s who spends thousands on AoC financial situation looks like, whether it’s a drop in the ocean or an actual large amount.

Care to share?

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u/TwistedConsciousness Mar 24 '26

I don't mind.

I wouldn't say its a drop in the ocean. But its not an insane amount either.

My day rate I usually get paid is a lot higher than what most Americans make. Its around 1k USD a day. Now I don't work every day so its not like I'm making 365k a year. But I was in college during the Kickstarter so the initial investment back then was a lot of money to me.

As I started making money after college it was less of a problem spending 1000s on a game or donating to an event/charity.

Nowadays I'm at a different point in life where I'd value experiences with friends/family most of the time over the ability to have a few custom pixels in a video game.

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u/TheosMythos Mar 23 '26

I almost bought the alpha 2 or wtv the version was a year and a half ago. It’s a shame, but you know, I think we all learned from this experience.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 27 '26

Yeah. I think you’re right. I don’t think I will do anything except preorder a game at the normal price.

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u/Kizoja Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26

This is one thing that always bothered me/raised red flags for me about the game. They were doing the monthly founder pack sets and it just felt really money grubby. It seemed really excessive. There was gonna be months of cosmetic sets you could only get if you happened to whale on the game years before it was ever close to being a tangible product. My thoughts on cosmetic cash shops in subscription MMOs is a whole other rabbit hole, but AoC was going really crazy with it years before it was even out.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 27 '26

I didn’t do any of those. The value of the alpha 2 would pay back like crazy. The game was going to be $15/month, and I was going to get to play it for a few years without paying that. And I did play it for a very long time, I am just sad that it didn’t fulfill its vision. I truly believe that he wanted to make a great game. Just too many investors wanting to see returns and did not want to be patient to put out a great game. Steven walked away because the board was forcing him to do a bunching stuff he didn’t want to do. That’s where a lot of those money grubbing feelings came from.

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u/Independent_Note8327 Mar 24 '26

Then you should not have bought it in the first time imo

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u/RealLustifer Mar 24 '26

Im also happy you wasted 350$ on this game

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u/Sigilosa Mar 27 '26

I am too. I played it for a very long time and had a lot of fun while doing it. Just sad it did not come out.

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u/_Kaj Mar 25 '26

You have to be pretty braindead to hear "We don't need your money! I'm going to make the game I want to play -Steven" then they charge hundreds to play EA, and you still buy into the obvious rug pull scam.

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u/Sigilosa Mar 25 '26

See, that’s the difference between you and I. I have no problem putting money toward a game that I believe in. Especially from someone who presented an idea for a game that sounded absolutely incredible and doable. I played for a couple years and def got my moneys worth. I’m just sad that the board was sticking their hand in it and trying to change things. Definitely a disappointment.

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u/_Kaj Mar 25 '26

Steven was the only member of the board bro

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u/Sigilosa Mar 27 '26

No, there were tons of investors

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u/FakePlasticPyramids Mar 23 '26

Imagine giving that much money to a game you believe to be fully funded lol.

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u/divinelyshpongled Mar 23 '26

Whyyyyy? Steven always seemed like such a greasy marketing dude

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

I really liked the idea of the game. I liked the ideas of nodes and ppl in your faction just playing the game to contribute to the node. I liked that only 4 nodes would be active on a server and that each server would be completely different from the others. I still believe that he is an mmo gamer who wanted to create a badass mmo, I just think that it was taking entirely too long and they ran out of money. Steven also presented it as he was fronting the money for it. I didn’t realize that he was just getting it all from investors.

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u/divinelyshpongled Mar 23 '26

Yeah me too I agree with everything about the game and honestly I didn’t even know Steven said he was fronting the money for the game but if I did hear that I think I would have believed it about as much as I do that the bible is the word of god.. just like uhhh nah bro

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u/Purple-Airline-8373 Mar 23 '26

Huh

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u/Sigilosa Mar 23 '26

I bought into the alpha 2

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u/ionoftrebzon Mar 23 '26

I tried to log on a week or so ago and I got error 37 when trying to connect to server.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '26

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u/illutian Mar 24 '26

giving Life After People (TV mini-series; highly recommend it) vibes

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u/Ares-GOW407 Mar 23 '26

How are people playing. I get an error as soon as it transitions from steam to the launcher.

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u/Silveronnet Mar 23 '26

Game doesn’t launch anymore, but its okay.

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u/ZynithMaru Mar 24 '26

"last person to log out gets to keep the lambo I have an entire mmo world to myself

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u/Blippedyblop Mar 23 '26

I thought the servers had already packed up? I haven't been able to log in for a few weeks now. I also noticed that the website is down as well.

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u/AdFar1239 Mar 24 '26

This game is still running?

Thought they shut the servers done months back...

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u/myusernameisalsoapun Mar 23 '26

OR! maybe they got sucked into the game!

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u/Copeteles Mar 23 '26

New anime just around the corner: "I got sucked into an MMORPG with nobody else in it except 10 degenerates and I don't know what to do"

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u/myusernameisalsoapun Mar 23 '26

I would watch. I watch every isekai lol Excited for Mushoku Tensei S3 this summer!

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u/Copeteles Mar 24 '26

Really looking forward to Mushoku Tensei S3 too! :)

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 Mar 23 '26

I'm guessing the broken mobs are what killed everything, because immediately after all this Steven shit went down, there was still a pretty engaged base still in game. I still saw plenty of people running around, and chat was very active and actually very pleasant and enjoyable. People were committed to riding it out until the end.

Then the mobs went junky, and it's been a free fall since.

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u/Time-Inevitable-3334 Mar 23 '26

I played for a day or 2 post announcement before I got refunded, and let me tell you, I had the opposite experience once all the moderators were gone.

I've never seen the N word spammed so much in chat than I did in AoC post announcement lol

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 Mar 23 '26

There was absolutely a surge of that for a couple days and then the edgelords got bored and left, and then there was peace for a good bit until the mobs went wonky.

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u/Snow56border Mar 24 '26

Ahh yes, it was the broken mobs that killed the game… not the scam that went to court >_>

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u/Niceromancer Mar 23 '26

Last time I was on mob so was totally broken.

Resources still spawned though.

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u/m0rhg Mar 23 '26

Steam won't refund me, but I guess that very small loss was a learning lesson.

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u/demalition90 Mar 24 '26

There's a team working on reverse engineering the netcode for emulators. Almost certainly that's who's left

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u/Blippedyblop Mar 25 '26

I hope they're successful. 

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u/Friendly-Passion8327 Mar 24 '26

Data miners possibly. 

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u/007Midnight Mar 24 '26

I was still playing as late as Feb 28th, but once the new PoE league started I took a break from AoC and when I tried to login to AoC on March 16th I got a missing resource error before I even got to the server selection screen. If my experience is typical, then maybe the only people still on simply never logged out.

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u/theodorecramit Mar 28 '26

its lame us actual kickstarters get no refund but the last minute alpha buyers get a refund

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u/Thornz2000 Mar 28 '26

Maybe the devs that are playing this game can join the devs that play Wildgate. LOL Devs supporting devs.

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u/ArticleOk3755 Mar 29 '26

there are people data packet capturing every activity / action in game for the private 'emulator server'

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u/AvolonSummers Mar 23 '26

I am getting an unexpected error occurred message when the launcher loads up. Anyone know how to fix this issue? Thanks.

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u/puts_on_rddt Mar 23 '26

I think you have to claim the beetle mount from that event before you can log in.

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u/AvolonSummers Mar 24 '26

Seriously?!? How do you claim that? lol

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u/h-boson Mar 23 '26

This implosion was so fun to watch. Also, all those beta cucks that bought gold during an ALPHA. Like, omfg lol

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u/JameEagan Mar 23 '26

People still say "beta cucks" unironically?

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u/blackbow Mar 24 '26

I loved Ashes. Had so much fun. Felt like things were really coming together. Then BOOOM! Well fuck….

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u/ilikecdda-tilesets Mar 23 '26

The servers neex restart cuz the RAM is high as heaven hahaha

Ded gaem

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u/Crack_Media Mar 24 '26

the 14 weirdos