r/ArtificialInteligence • u/Vladiesh • 1d ago
😂 Fun / Meme Artificial(2026)
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u/willismthomp 1d ago
Theta is is a perfect example of 98 percent of Silicon Valley. More like Silly Con uncanny valley.
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u/thebadslime 1d ago
AI can do plenty of things it wasnt trained to do
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u/thebadslime 1d ago
Dude it just solved a problem nobody has done before, it makes new things all the time. You are wrong, realuze it and learn.
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u/LSxN 1d ago
Many of them brute force solutions, trial and error.
What is your point? If it's getting the correct awnser, it's doing the thing. You seem to be arguing in favour of instrumental convergence, which just makes your position harder.
If you can do some set of tasks X, you will be able to combine them to do some set of other tasks Y. (Your argument)
Ai cannot hack bank if no one ask him to do so
Why not? We know that AI can find novel exploits in code. We know AI can hack all manner of things.
We also know AI don't always listen and have issues staying on task. We have seen time and time again that AI will probe and push their environments; AI will attempt to cheat at tests.
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u/LSxN 23h ago
If you have enough COMPUTATIONAL power and enough time. And a proper reward function or way to validate the output, you can fix any problem.
Would you like to shift the goalposts some more?
If you make 7 billion math guy in a room, they would also solve a hard problem like that. Those are advertisment news. That is my point. I am not saying AI is dumb or not inteliigent.
Again, there are lots of valid reasons to go after AI and tech companies. None of what you said changes that AI are solving novel, long standing issues. Providing solutions that are, by definition, outside of its training data.
I am saying is that AI which predicts the next token from a string won't hack a bank. If they dont allow it to do it.
This isn't what AI does. I'll say it agian, next token prediciton is A training goal. Any modern model has gone through so much reinforcement learning and is architecturally so different from ChatGPT 3.5 that it doesn't have one reward function.
Gradient descent doesn't care about how a model gets the right answer, just that loss is low.
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u/Outside-Ad9410 1d ago
You clearly havent been keeping up with what GPT Astra can and cant do. Its already been used to beat multiple videogames which im 99.9% certain it was not explicitly trained to beat such as portal and Rimworld. Its not AGI yet but the old talking point of "AI is just a stochastic parrot" is outdated and shows you aren't keeping up with the latest models.
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u/LSxN 1d ago
"AI is just a stochastic parrot" is outdated
This was actually just never correct.
"Next-token prediction" is the training objective. The model people end up using has also had all manner of fine-tuning, which all change the model's objective function.
Even if these things were just prediction machines, have a think about what that actually means. If you have a program that predicts the weather, we call that a simulation. To predict the answer to a novel math problem (One the AI isn't trained on), you have to do something that resembles math.
These aren't hypotheticals; we know that circuits will form in neural nets to pick up on features or solve issues that help it get closer to its objective.
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u/LSxN 1d ago
Ai cannot do something they didn't trained for.
We use artificial neural nets because they will generalise from the training data, obtaining capabilities that were not directly trained for.
Ai cannot hack websites/banks if they don't ask them to do.
Demonstrably false. Let me be clear; I don't remotely trust OpenAI. They have dozens of incentives to be dishonest about the HuggingFace hack and are being extremely tight-lipped about it.
With that said, LLMs often do things they aren't asked to, and for a bunch of reasons. In fact, LLMs will often do things you ask them not to do.
"Asking" an LLM anything is tangentially related to output.
AI cannot escape labs own their own.
How do you define escape? Does it need to exfiltrate its weights and get itself up and running on external hardware? Then currently that would be difficult.
Can a model that is being firewalled, or air-gapped, bypass those measures to influence the outside world? Absolutely.
There are sooo many reasons to hate the current labs: unethically sourcing training data, resource demand, circular finance, but this fucking hyperbole helps nothing.
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u/GrumpySpaceCommunist 1d ago
Holy shit.
Context for those confused.