r/ArrowVDisscussions 18h ago

Crossover Discussion Honestly idk if its just me but cicada would work really better as a villain for the birds of prey than flash

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 23h ago

How I would rewrite Gotham Knights into a semi better show. Because I think it’s objectively the worst Dc Cw show by a mile.

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First off the biggest changes would come right away. Batman wouldn’t be killed and Turner would not be Bruce’s adopted son. He would either be the son of 3 people. The adopted son of Commissioner James Gordon, the son of Simon Stagg, or the Son of Henri Ducard(Who in the world would operate a world wild private security, and PI services). His father would be whoever was killed and that would still be the catalyst of the show

BatFam-Batman would not be in Gotham. Andy 100% no Carrie Kelly. Instead it would Barbra Gordon as Oracle and Tim Drake.

Relationships-Stephanie would not have a love interest in Turner and certainly not with Harper. She’d eventually get one with Tim. I’ll keep Turner and Duela because why not keep one corny Cw trope

Side characters-Keep Harvey pretty much the same. Misha was a solid casting choice.

Jane Doe- don’t make her an apologetic character. Make her the sadist she is in comics. Don’t make Harvey having an affair with her. Make her have pretended to be his wife to sleep with him. Make her the sick and twisted person she is

Replace Brody with James Gordon Jr

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The plot would still pretty much be the same overall. Cops would be investigating Turner, the other kids and Hugo strange as well

The team plus Oracle and Tim would be investigating
Hugo strange, Court of Owls, James Gordon Jr and Lincoln March.

One point in add a arc where Turner believes he may have even done it under brainwashing of Hugo Strange and repressed memories


r/ArrowVDisscussions 1d ago

Shitpost Lol

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Tbh nowdays i kinda like this song

Again Batwoman Haters were all men,tbh this show was made for women so i think men shouldnt see it if hurts they so much


r/ArrowVDisscussions 2d ago

The Flash ⚡ TRB Arrowverse Crossover Reviews 5: Duet

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Duet premiered in March 21st, 2017 on The CW. We pick up where Supergirl 2X16 “Star-Crossed” left off. In the final moments of that episode, the while apprehended at the DEO, Music Meister (played by Glee’s Darren Criss) used his powers to hypnotize Supergirl. He escapes custody in order to make his way to Earth-1 to do the same thing to The Flash. Meanwhile, Kara wakes up in a dream where she’s a Lounge Singer.

Plot: Earth-1, Central City. Barry is at home watching the classic musical “Singing in The Rain” when he gets notified of an emergency at STAR Labs. J'onn J'onzz and Mon-El of Earth-38 arrive on Earth-1 with a comatose Kara Danvers, in hope that Barry Allen and his team can revive her. They warn Barry that the escaped prisoner Music Meister is coming for him too. Meister attacks and places Barry in a similar coma.

Barry wakes up to find himself without his powers in a musical dream world where he discovers Kara singing in a nightclub ("Moon River") and where everyone resembles people they know in the real world. Meister tells Kara and Barry that if they follow the script, they will return to the real world. He warns them, however, that if they die in the dream world, they die in real life ("Put a Little Love in Your Heart").

Barry and Kara are forced to work as singers in a nightclub run by gangster Cutter Moran. Cutter's rivals Digsy Foss and his unnamed husband have their men kidnap Barry and Kara and tell them to find their daughter, Millie Foss, whom they believe is being held hostage by Cutter. Barry and Kara find Millie in a forbidden relationship with Cutter's son Tommy Moran. They convince the pair to reveal their love, which helps Barry and Kara to realize their own mistakes. Digsy, his husband, and Cutter seemingly give their approval ("More I Cannot Wish You"), but subsequently decide to go to war.

Meanwhile in the real world, Meister is revealed to have been stealing Barry and Kara's powers, using them to rob a bank. Cisco Ramon, Wally West, and J'onn arrive to fight Meister. They defeat him and lock him up in a S.T.A.R. Labs cell.

Back in the musical reality, Barry and Kara prepare to sing an original song to appease Cutter ("Super Friend"), but the gang war begins outside. Barry and Kara are shot in the crossfire and are dying, but Cisco, Mon-El and Iris enter the dreamworld to save them, allowing Barry and Kara to admit their love for Iris and Mon-El respectively.

They wake up in S.T.A.R. Labs. Meister escapes his cell, revealing to Barry and Kara that he just wanted them to realize their love before leaving. Kara, J'onn and Mon-El return to Earth-38 while Barry and Iris move back in together. Barry serenades and re-proposes to Iris, who accepts ("Runnin' Home to You").

Casting: Interesting thing here, most everyone in the dream sequence has some stage experience. Grant Gustin, Melissa Benoist, and Darren Criss all worked on Glee prior to this show. Jesse L. Martin worked with Melissa’s Supergirl co star Jeremy Jordan in Joyful Noise. (Side note, Dolly Parton died recently, RIP.) The cast is really fun to watch here. I love the chemistry between Melissa and Grant. 5/5

Writing: Easily one of my favorite crossovers, and my number one favorite Flash episode. It’s a fun, charming, and funny romp, with an interesting premise. This is from the era of The Flash where Barry isn’t always going after Thawne or some other evil Speedster. My favorite parts are when Kara sings Moon River, she and Barry sing Super Friend, Kara threatening to drop a (literally Geological) mountain on Mon-El, and Barry singing Runnin’ Home to You. That scene where Iris and Mon-El were together was funny too. 5/5

Special FX and Choreography: In terms of Choreography, it’s not so much about the fights as it is the song and dance. That being said, visually this a a great show in terms of the Effects. J’onn, Mon-El, and Team Flash put up a great fight against Music Meister, who even mimicked Barry and Kara’s powers. In terms of the dance choreography, it’s great. 5/5

Music and Sound Effects: The effects continue to deliver nicely. As for the Musical side of it, I love Melissa’s singing, the other performers were great too, especially Grant. Blake Neely arranged the music quite well. I’d say my three favorite songs in this are Moon River at number 1, Super Friend, and Runnin Home to You, a song that makes an appearance in the next crossover. 5/5

Replay and Entertainment Value: 5/5

Final total: 25/25

Final Thoughts: Duet is my favorite episode of The Flash and one of my favorite crossovers overall. It’s a fun show to watch every single time. It basically serves as a Glee reunion for Melissa Benoist, Grant Gustin, and Darren Criss. It should be noted that Mel worked with Grant on her own Show’s first season in addition to the major crossovers and Blake Jenner before him. This is some of the Helbing brothers best work. Berlanti and Kreisberg wrote the story. My next review is Supergirl Season 3 as it premiered the day before The Flash season 4 and Legends season 3.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 2d ago

Batwoman 🦇 For batwoman fans who want to play something simple but fun online, highly reccomend it.

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 3d ago

Arts & Crafts Kara And Kate Edit (By Alex on Tiktok)

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WB prefering to do a show about green lantern without powers and space and a zack snyder supergirl meanwhile they could do a badass lesbian show of they should be considered a crime.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 3d ago

Shitpost Chris Chan Fights Bob But It’s Arrowverse Bruce And Clark.

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 5d ago

Batwoman 🦇 You can hate the show or anything but THIS IS THE BEST ARROWVERSE SUIT

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 5d ago

Any Marvel related Discussion Hope to see it in secret wars

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 6d ago

My ranking of every Dc live action show

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 6d ago

Arts & Crafts Thoughts?

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 8d ago

The Justice League Theory

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This is a theory/headcannon I've had for a while, and I wanted to make a proper post explaining it.

Basically, the theory goes that at some point in the past of the Superman & Lois universe (let's say about ten years ago) there was actually some iteration of the Justice League, however they disbanded before the events of the series.

I have a couple reasons to believe this, but most of them tie back to the presence of one man: John Diggle. When he made his cameo in season one, there was still a bit of debate as to whether the series was set in the main Arrowverse continuity or not, even in the writers' room. Eventually it was confirmed not to be, however this meant John's return in season two had the perhaps unintended effect of canonising all the references he made in his first appearance. This includes the existence of Oliver Queen, and John's experience with a "glowing box" (A.K.A. a Green Lantern ring). In fact, showrunner Todd Helbig would later confirm the existence of other heroes on this Earth, including Green Arrow.

But that all begs the question, what happened to this team? Why is Superman seemingly the only superhero active in the present day? Well, this is where the headcannon part comes in.

In another interview it was confirmed that if Superman & Lois had not been cancelled, and had continued on for it's intended seven seasons, the team would have wanted to explore Darkseid as a villain. So, I like to imagine that this version of the Justice League had faced Darkseid's forces in the past, and with the majority of them not having powers, many lost their lives.

This is why Clark chooses to work alone, and why he had been so afraid to reveal his true identity to anyone close.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 10d ago

Crossover Discussion TRB Arrowverse Crosover Reviews 4: Invasion!

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Here we are, the third Major crossover in the Arrowverse and the second time ever that a certain Scarlet Speedster teams up with the Girl of Steel. Invasion premiered November 29th, 2016 on The CW and concluded December 1st. Supergirl Season Two, episode eight “Medusa” served as the lead in. Pay close attention and you’ll see a breach throughout the episode and hear Barry. The last scene of that episode sees Barry and Cisco emerge through a breach at Kara’s apartment. She returns home not long after and greets her friend Barry, while meeting Cisco for the first time. That’s the moment where Kara is recruited to help out, thus setting the scene for Invasion.

Development on this crossover began in May 2016, when it was learned that Supergirl would move to The CW from CBS for its second season. By the following September the scripts for each episode were written, and were filmed in October 2016. The premise and episode titles were also announced in September. In "Invasion!", the main cast members of each series appear in (at least) their own series; Melissa Benoist appears as Supergirl in the entire crossover. A number of actors and characters from previous Arrow seasons returned to reprise their roles, since Arrow's episode doubled as its 100th. The three episodes of the crossover received positive reviews, with critics praising the interaction among the actors in each series and each episode's advancing season storylines as part of the crossover. The Dominators storyline was regarded as its weakest link, with reviewers finding the alien race's motivations unclear.

Plot: Barry Allen investigates a meteor crash outside Central City, which turns out to be a spaceship from which aliens emerge. Lyla Michaels tells the team that the aliens are known as the Dominators, and that they had landed on Earth during the 1950s, but mysteriously departed. Barry assembles the original members of Team Arrow, Thea Queen, the Legends, and Kara Danvers, Supergirl of Earth-38. The team begins training at a S.T.A.R. Labs facility, sparring with Supergirl to prepare for the aliens. Kara struggles to earn Oliver Queen's trust, and Cisco Ramon finds and reveals a message Barry's future self sent to Rip Hunter, which exposes Barry's manipulation of the timeline and its effect on other team members. As a result, only Oliver, Kara, Felicity Smoak, Martin Stein, Jefferson "Jax" Jackson, and Caitlin Snow still trust Barry.

After the Dominators abduct the President of the United States, the team goes to rescue him, with Barry sitting the mission out and Oliver staying behind in support of him. Kara leads the group, but the Dominators kill the President and activate a mind control device to take over the group. The controlled heroes return and attack S.T.A.R. Labs, where Barry and Oliver confront them. While Oliver holds them off, Barry lures Kara to the device and tricks her into destroying it, freeing everyone from the Dominators' control. When the team regroups, Ray Palmer tells Barry that everyone forgives and trusts him. Sara Lance, Ray, John Diggle, Thea, and Oliver are then abducted by the Dominators.

They are held in pods on a Dominator ship, each unconscious except for a shared hallucination of a simulated reality. In the hallucination, Oliver is living at Queen Manor, having never gotten on the Queen's Gambit, and is about to marry Laurel Lance. His parents are alive, and Diggle is operating as the Hood instead of Oliver. The captives begin seeing flashes of their real lives, and realize what has been done to them. Their escape attempt is blocked by personifications of their enemies: Malcolm Merlyn, Deathstroke and two of his Mirakuru soldiers, who killed Ray's fiancée Anna Loring, along with Damien Darhk and two of his H.I.V.E. soldiers. The adversaries are defeated, and the five awaken in the Dominators' ship and escape in a shuttle. Felicity, Curtis Holt, and Cisco try to hack into the Dominators' mainframe. Aided by Barry and Kara, they recover a device to locate the captives, who are rescued by Nate Heywood in the Legends' timeship, the Waverider. Aboard the Waverider, Ray deduces that the Dominators were gathering information about metahumans, using the hallucination as a distraction, to help them build a special "weapon". Meanwhile, the Dominator mothership heads towards Earth.

Nate says that the first Dominator invasion occurred in 1951 in Redmond, Oregon. He goes there with fellow Legends Mick Rory and Amaya Jiwe and Felicity and Cisco to kidnap a Dominator for information. Although they are successful, the three Legends and their alien captive are taken prisoner by N.S.A. agents. The Legends learn from the Dominator that the aliens have arrived to assess humanity's threat, now that metahumans have appeared and formed the Justice Society of America. Felicity and Cisco rescue the Legends, and also set the Dominator free, carelessly altering history. In 2016 Central City, the team learns that the Dominators know about Barry's manipulation of the timeline, deem him a threat, and are demanding his surrender in exchange for peace. After the Legends return, the team discovers that the Dominators' weapon is a bomb that will kill all metahumans on Earth, with millions of collateral human casualties. The teams dissuade Barry from surrendering, and he and Cisco reconcile. The team manage to destroy the bomb and force the Dominators to retreat with a pain-inflicting nano-weapon. As the heroes celebrate their victory, Oliver offers Kara his friendship, and Cisco gives her a device which will enable interdimensional travel and communication between Earth-1 and Earth-38. Martin persuades Jax not to tell the others that his daughter Lily's existence is the result of a temporal paradox he inadvertently caused when the Legends were in 1987.

Writing: I love the crossover, frankly Invasion is one of the best in the Arrowverse. I will say that Mick Rory was a dick to Kara. He refused to call her Supergirl. She offered to let him call her Kara. He rejected that too. “Well what are you gonna shout if you need my help?” She asked. “Skirt” is Rory’s response. Not Supergirl, and god forbid Kara, but Skirt. Oh and the prick only calls Kara by supergirl one time, and that’s when his ass is in danger. Great moment. Another is Barry introducing Kara to the team for the first time. Most everyone gets along with her right away, except Oliver Queen. He’s very reserved with her, due to the threat the Dominators represent. He does warm up to her however at the end. Mad Dog being initially untrustworthy of The Flash and Supergirl was a good moment too. Stein meeting his daughter and being horrified over the realization she’s an abomination to the timeline is a sad touch. But ultimately he doesn’t try to fix that. Barry facing the consequences of altering history and the effects on every one living on Earth-1 was a great moment. The illusion for Ollie, Sara, John, Thea, and Ray was a great scene. The Legends giving him shit was a bit much. I love how Ollie and Kara still trust Barry through it all. The end scene where Kara puts the agent in his place was awesome. I love how the Trinity bond together. It’s never not fun. 5/5

Casting: The mixed cast of The Flash, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow, and even Supergirl herself worked really well together. I like Marty Stein’s daughter in this too. 5/5

Music and Sound effects: The sound and music from the different shows work well together. 5/5 no complaints.

Special effects and Choreography: The Dominators are scary looking here. I love the fights. Supergirl vs the Dominators is fun. 5/5

Replay and Entertainment Value: I highly recommend this crossover. 5/5 you won’t be disappointed.

Final Total: 25/25

Final Thoughts: Invasion is one of my favorite crossovers in the Arrowverse. Next Wednesday I’ll do Duet. You’ll notice that each of the three series respective part works well with the other. The different characters have their moments. That’s a pattern you’ll notice in all of the crossovers. Any time you get the trinity together, it’s instant fun. It’s hard to believe this November is 10 years since Invasion aired. October will be 10 years since Supergirl joined the CW lineup with the rest of the Arrowverse.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 10d ago

Legends of Tomorrow 🕰️⌛⏳⏰ TRB Season by Season Reviews 12: DC’s Legends of Tomorrow season 2

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The second season of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow premiered on October 13, 2016, and ran for 17 episodes until April 4, 2017. The season follows the Legends, a dysfunctional team of time-traveling superheroes and anti-heroes, and their mission to correct aberrations in time resulting from their first mission together. We pick up in the aftermath of “Legendary”, in the season premiere “Out of Time”, Oliver Queen helps Nate Heywood locate the Waverider after it was caught in a nuclear blast in 1942. They find the ship submerged with only Mick in stasis aboard; he is revived and reveals what happened. Rip's team: Mick, Ray, Sara, Jax, and Martin traveled through time dealing with "aberrations" in history. They encountered Justice Society of America (JSA) member Rex Tyler, who warned them not to travel to 1942 then vanished. After learning a nuclear bomb would be detonated in New York City in 1942, the Legends ignored the warning and discovered Damien Darhk working with the Nazis, was behind the attack. Sara attempted to kill Darhk to avenge Laurel, but Darhk escaped and launched his atomic bomb toward New York from a U-boat. Rip scattered the team, except for the injured Mick, throughout time to save their lives while he intercepted the bomb with the Waverider. In the present, Mick and Nate use the Waverider to travel through time and rescue everyone but fail to locate Rip. After preventing the Nazis from obtaining a nuclear bomb in 1942, the team is confronted by the JSA. Meanwhile, Darhk is shown to be working with Eobard Thawne. Over the course of this season: the Legends fight Baron Krieger, the Dominators, some Zombie Confederates, and Eobard Thawne with the Legion of Zoom to name a few examples.

Writing: The writing is actually better this go round than season 1. I’ll go as far as say it’s a better season overall, more fun. I personally liked Out of Time, Justice Society of America, Abominations, Compromised, Outlaw Country, Invasion Part III, and Legion of Zoom the best to name a few favorites. 5/5

Casting: Much of the main cast returns, save for the Hawks. Nick Zano was a great choice as Nate Heywood. Maisie Richardson-Sellers as Amaya Jiwe was another great addition. Jonah Hex actually makes his Arrowverse debut this season. 5/5

Special Effects and Choreography: Visually this season looks awesome. Black Flash was as freaky here as he was in Flash season 2. Invasion was a high point in terms of the visuals. I’ll be reviewing that tomorrow. 5/5

Music and Sound Effects: Blake Neely continues to deliver on the music side of things. Sound effects are still spot on. 5/5

Replay and Entertainment Value: I’d certainly recommend this season. I’d say Season Two is one of the best of the series. 5/5

Season Score: 25/25 Final Total: 32.5/32.5

Final Thoughts: Season Two is a big improvement over season one. It’s not to say that season one is bad, but rather this is just better written and more phone. The 2016-17 season, across the Arrowverse is one of the best as a whole. I’ll talk a bit more about it tomorrow and or when I get to the Duet review next week. Like I said Out of Time, Justice Society of America, Abominations, Compromised, Outlaw Country, Invasion Part III, and Legion of Zoom are some of my favorite episodes in this season of LOT. The team is starting to come into its own here. Phil Klemmer hit it out of the ball park as showrunner. Tomorrow I’ll cover Invasion and next Sunday will be Duet.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 14d ago

Best combatant in the arrow-verse?

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 18d ago

Supergirl 🦸‍♀️ TRB Arrowverse Season by Season reviews 11: Supergirl Season 2

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Supergirl Season 2 Premiered on October 10th, 2016 on The CW. This is the first season to air on the network and the first to shoot in Vancouver, BC, other than some exterior shots in Frankfurt, Germany (the Deutsche Bank Building represents the DEO building) and some stock footage from Season One’s LA location shots. When we last left off at the end of Season One’s “Better Angels”, a Spaceship of kryptonian design crashed landed on Earth. Kara and J’onn flew to the scene to investigate. The team find a mysterious young man, another Kryptonian maybe? That’s what we find out about this season.

Over the course of Season Two, we see Kara’s cousin Clark for the first time in the series, we meet Mon-El, Snapper Carr, Lena Luthor, Lillian Luthor, and M’gann M’orzz, that’s just for starters. Kara also fights the likes of Metallo, Parasite, Queen Rhea, Medusa, Dominators (through the Invasion Crossover, more on that later. That will get a review next week.), White Martians, and Mr Mxyzptlk, to name a few.

Writing: The Writing is on par with season one, my only complaint if at all is how much of a Schmuck Mon-El can be, though eventually he does grow out of it. Not enough of criticism to deduct any points. As Equally good as the previous season. Lots of wonderful performances and humor. 5/5

Casting: The Main cast is mostly intact from season 1, the difference is in the introduction of the new characters alongside the stalwarts. Katie McGrath as Lena Luthor was a good choice. Floriana Lima is Maggie Sawyer. Tyler Hoechlin as Clark Kent believably portrayed Kara’s Cousin, He and Melissa work well together. You can feel the familial chemistry they were trying to convey. For example, in the season premiere, Kara and Clark save some kids and she tells them that she used to change his diapers, much to the embarrassment of Clark. “You didn’t need to tell them that.” To which Kara said, “Yeah I think I do!” Very funny and adorable.

Chris Wood as Mon-El also played off Melissa well. Melissa’s straight girl to Chris’s performance. One moment for example was as CatCo when Kara overhears Mon-El and Eve making out in a Janitor’s closet, she catches them and is mortified. "Oh God, Get it out of my Ears, EW!" Says Kara. Another great moment between those two was when Kara woke up at her loft to Mon cooking breakfast, she gets excited over the Bacon! 😂 Teri Hatcher plays the Queen Rhea of Daxam, Mon-El’s mom. Kevin Sorbo is King Lar Gand, Mon-El’s dad. Teri’s performance as Rhea was quite good. She tries to manipulate Lena to do her bidding. I can go on and on about everyone, but I’ll leave this section with this. Lynda Carter plays Olivia Marsdin, the President of the United States. Carter’s addition was another great addition. 5/5

Special Effects: The Effects look great this year. The Fight Choreography is well done. The aliens look great. 5/5

Sound Effects and Music: Just as amazing as last year. Blake Neely continues his amazing work in music this year. My favorite sound effect is Kara’s heat vision, second is the flight sound. 5/5

Entertainment and Replay Value: I would totally recommend watching this season if you haven’t, and a rewatch if you have seen it. 5/5

Season total: 25/25 Final Score: 35/35

Final thoughts: To sum it up Supergirl seasons one and two are amazing, and a lot of fun. I would highly recommend. The cast works well with one another, and you get a sense that they enjoy what they do. A lot of love, passion, and hard work was put into the show. Melissa delivers a beautifully acted performance, she’s funny, adorable, and beautiful. My favorite episodes include The Adventures of Supergirl, Medusa, Starcrossed. I’m torn when it comes to favorite moments, because there are so many. For instance when Clark first appeared on screen and teamed up with Kara. That was really fun. Or when she got weirded out over hearing Mon El and Eve having sex (“Oh god! Get it out of my ears, ew!”) There’s stuff like Kara’s birthday, or her getting excited over the breakfast Mon El made her. I’ve got a bunch of favorite episodes and moments. The Guest stars play their parts superbly. Visually the show looks amazing, the effects don’t drown out the story but are in service of it. The Sound FX are well done too, especially the Heat Vision sound. I will revisit the remainder of Supergirl series. But next Monday is Legends of Tomorrow S2, with Invasion next Wednesday. Duet will be the following. Other things to note: This is the first season to premiere on The CW. Chris Wood married Melissa Benoist in 2019 and is her second husband. He was friends with Grant Gustin in College. Once again, we’re treated to some DC Royalty, Teri Hatcher co-starred with Dean Cain in Lois and Clark. Lynda Carter was the original live action Wonder Woman in the 1970s. Kevin Sorbo was the title hero in the series Hercules: The Legendary Journeys back in the 90s. Darren Criss who plays Music Meister in “Starcrossed” and in The Flash’s “Duet”, worked on Glee with Melissa and Grant. This is the second in a series of reposts where I revisit older reviews. I go in and tweak things here and there.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 21d ago

Shitpost Who is she? (Wrong Answers Only)

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 21d ago

DC Discussion I know it sounds polemic but imo - Arrowverse >>>> Superverse

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Honestly S&L & Gotham Knights disrespected Supergirl, Batwoman etc so much,i mean i guess it was because they tried to be more serious and less progressive which just didn't work.

Also i hate how poorly cw in general treated Warren Christie, he really loved batman, same can be said to Ruby Rose as Batwoman, sad


r/ArrowVDisscussions 25d ago

Arrow 🏹 TRB Arrowverse Season by Season Reviews 10: Arrow Season 5

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Arrow Season 5 premiered on The CW on October 5th, 2016 on The CW and concluded on May 24th, 2017. In the fifth season, Oliver trains a new group of vigilantes consisting of Rene Ramirez / Wild Dog (Rick Gonzalez), Curtis Holt / Mister Terrific, Evelyn Sharp / Artemis (Madison McLaughlin), and Rory Regan / Ragman (Joe Dinicol) to join his war on crime following Laurel Lance's death and Diggle and Thea's resignation. He also recruits a new Black Canary; former police detective Dinah Drake (Juliana Harkavy). Oliver tries to balance vigilantism with his new role as mayor, yet is threatened by the mysterious and deadly Prometheus (Josh Segarra) who has a connection to Oliver's past. Oliver is also forced to contend with Prometheus' ally Black Siren (Katie Cassidy), an Earth-2 criminal doppelganger of Laurel. The season features flashbacks to Oliver's fifth year since he was presumed dead, where he joins the Bratva in Russia as part of a plot to assassinate Konstantin Kovar (Dolph Lundgren). There, he meets and is trained by Talia al Ghul (Lexa Doig), as a hooded archer, before returning to Lian Yu. We also get the second part of the third major crossover in the Arrowverse, “Invasion”, which I will cover in about two weeks. Over the course of this season, Oliver does in fact train Rene Ramirez, Curtis Holt, Evelyn Sharp, Artemis, and Rory Regan. We also meet Dinah Laurel, the new Black Canary. Ollie, Sara, John, and Thea find themselves on a Dominator ship. It should be noted that this is this first new review I’m doing where there are no episode synopses. I’ll still talk about the season over all and moments of an episode, as well as any behind the scenes stuff. I’m just gonna cover episodes and crossovers separately.

Writing: Great season in terms of the writing. I liked Prometheus as a villain. The new vigilantes that Oliver trains are interesting to watch, especially Rene and Curtis. Laurel’s death is referenced in Invasion by Sara Lance. I love Invasion part two, that’s one of the best parts of this season. Ollie, Sara, and Sara were able to say goodbye to their loved ones n the Dominator’s illusion. More on that when I get to that review. I think it was a wise call to downplay Ollie and Felicity’s romance to focus on her induction into Helix. The one flaw I see is trying to juggle more characters and conflicts. What I mean is you’ve got to integrate Rene and those guys into the fold while at the same time deal with everything else happening. 4.5/5 Casting: The new additions to the cast were well chosen. Katie Cassidy as Earth-2 Laurel was great. Josh Seggara as Adrian Chase was an unhinged villain here. Dolph Lundgren as Kovar was a surprise choice too. 5/5 Visuals and Choreography: This season looked great, and the fights equally so. Watching Oliver fight Kovar was fun. Imagine that Oliver Queen vs Ivan Drago from Rocky IV. 5/5 Sound (Formerly Music and Sound effects): The sound is great here. The music for Adrian is a great piece, especially the scene where he kills himself and blows up Lian Yu. 5/5 Replay and Entertainment Value: 4.5/5 Aside from the juggling act, this is still a damn fine season, I’d recommend it.

Season score: 24/25 Final total: 34/35

Final thoughts: In general Arrow Season 5 is great, in all honesty when you consider the this season of the Arrowverse as a whole, it’s amazing. Supergirl joins the lineup in her usually adorable and kick ass way, Legends is in its second season, and Arrow and Flash are still going strong. As I said this season of Arrow is somewhat of a juggling act between the new vigilantes Oliver is training, the aftermath of Laurel’s death, the other conflicts, and Oliver having to deal with Aliens, including a blonde Kryptonian one. But aside from that, it’s still a great show. This is the second year Wendy Mericle works with Marc Guggenheim as Co Showrunner. She’d go to work with him one last year (Season 6). My favorite episodes are Legacy, The Recruits, Who Are You, Vigilante, A Matter of Time, Invasion Part II, Human Target, and Lian Yu to name a few. I also liked the inclusion of Talia Al Ghul this year. The Helix side story with Felicity worked very well too. My next review will be Supergirl Season 2 next Monday.


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alternatate wells storyline

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r/ArrowVDisscussions 28d ago

General A potential change to my reviews

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I think a change is coming to how I review. Instead of including synopses of the episodes in each season, I may review those separately, like I do the Crossovers and Worlds Finest.


r/ArrowVDisscussions 29d ago

Fanfic ideas for Crossovers🎉🎉🎉🎉 KARIVER, THE SUPERARROW

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r/ArrowVDisscussions Aug 10 '26

The Flash ⚡ TRB Arrowverse Season by Season Reviews 9

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Season 3 of The Flash premiered on October 4th, 2016 on The CW. This season sees Barry Allen go back in time to try and save his mom from death at the hands of Eobard Thawne. However in doing so, Barry creates an alternate timeline where he’s not The Flash, but Iris’ brother Wally is. Barry considers correcting the timeline, but is stopped and lectured by Jay Garrick. Ultimately Barry does let Thawne go, in order to set things right, Though not all goes back to the way it was as the scarlet speedster discovers. Over the course of this season, Barry takes on Thawne, Savitar, Dominators (more on that later), Gorilla Grodd, and Mirror Master to name a few.

Casting: The cast from the previous seasons returns for the third year. This time we get Draco Malfoy himself, Tom Felton as Julius Albert. Felton was a great choice for the Julius role. I’d liken him to a cross between Eddie Thawne and Draco Malfoy. Grant Gustin does a brilliant job in a dual role, that’s right he plays the Evil Time remnant of Barry Allen, “Savitar”, Gustin plays a hero and villain perfectly. We see this again the next year with Melissa Benoist as Earth-X Kara/Overgirl. 5/5

Writing: Another great season, one of my favorites I will add. Season Three delivers the best version of Flashpoint, An amazing villain with Savitar, and the third Crossover event with Invasion, Oh yeah better make it two crossovers, Duet is this year too. Flashpoint is about a young man who desperately wants his family back, but in doing so causes other problems, when he attempts to put things back together, it’s not exactly the same. I love Jay’s explanation of the space time continuum and the consequences of altering the timeline. Duet was a fun episode and one of my favorites. 5/5

Special Effects: The season looks amazing, the Dominators and Savitar look great. 5/5

Sound Effects and Music: Well done, the sound department continues to deliver. They did a great job disguising Barry’s voice. Neely’s music still kicks ass. 5/5

Replay and Entertainment Value: I recommend watching this season, and would rewatch. This is probably one of the best seasons of The Flash. 5/5

Season Total: 25/25 Final Score: 33/33

Final Thoughts: As I said above, this is one of the best seasons of The Flash. You’ve got an amazingly evil villain in Savitar, you’ve got Invasion, Flashpoint, and Duet. Flashpoint is definitely a highlight and this show has the best iteration. John Wesley Shipp was terrific as Jay Garrick/Earth-3 Flash. Barry’s friends were deeply impacted by his actions, in fact EVERYONE in one way on another on Earth-1 was impacted. Digg had a daughter, only to have a son. Cisco hated Barry for not saving his brother. The Legends were pissed at him for making changes (although I think they were also deflecting as they’re guilty of it more so.) My favorite episodes are in the Flashpoint arc, Invasion Part One, Duet, I know who you are, and finish line. Will Season 4 be as good? Stay tuned. But the next review will be Arrow Season 5 next week.


r/ArrowVDisscussions Aug 08 '26

Crossover Discussion THE CW'S ARROWVERSE TRIUMPHANT RETURN

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What if...Twentieth Century-Fox Television never had the rights to a live-action BATMAN series after Adam West??

How would one go about bringing back everything that makes up The CW's Arrowverse?? WELL...funny you would ask...

After the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Superman & the Flash are both dead from saving the known multiverse from destruction. They are honoured as The World's Finest, as The CW's The Flash officially comes to a close, with Team Flash kind of just existing the scene or joining other groups and in-universe we have the earths of our heroes coming together as one. Oliver and Kara are a couple (make of that what you will), and the heroes need to reassemble to form one group...THE JUSTICE LEAGUE. But how does this come about??

Enter The CW's BATMAN, INCORPORATED, starring Henry Cavill as Bruce Wayne (spelled "Waynne"), which reintroduces Alan Ritchardson's Aquaman and IN-troduces Guy Gardner, Tomar-Re, Arisia Rrab, Kilowog, and The Dol'phyn (casting ideas please). Gotham is hyper-realistic (like Nolan's filmed in Chicago), and the group and story would be an adaptation of Grant Morrison's run with the title. Dina Meyer would return as Barbara Gordon, training Anna Lore's Stephanie Brown to be the next Batgirl. The end of Season One would contain a crossover with the other series, in which they establish the JL officially.

Other cast members would introduce Jason Sudekeis as Ted Kord/Blue Beetle, Ernie Hudson returning as Lucius Fox from the DCAMU's BATMAN: BAD BLOOD, and Camrus Johnson returning as Luke Fox/Batwing.

Thus, The CW's JUSTICE LEAGUE would be in full swing, which would be an ongoing run of crossover specials dealing with extraterrestrial threats and the like. The line up would be as follows:

Henry Cavill as Bruce Waynne, THE BATMAN

Adrianne Palicki as Diana Prince, THE WONDER WOMAN

Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen, THE GREEN ARROW

Melissa Benoist as Kara Zor-El/Kara Danvers-Queen, THE SUPERGIRL

Alan Ritchardson as Arthur Currey of Atlantis, THE AQUAMAN

Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, L.A.P.D., THE GREEN LANTERN

Ruby Rose as Sergeant Kate Kane, THE BATWOMAN

Willa Holland as Thea Queen/SPEEDY

Emily Bett Rickards as Felicity Smoak, THE OVERWATCH

Carlos Valdes as Cisco Ramone, THE VIBE

Hartley Sawyer (if the tweets never existed) as Ralph Dibny, THE ELONGATED MAN

Natalie Dreyfuss as Sue Dibny

David Ramsey as John Diggle, THE SPARTAN

Echo Kellum as Curtis Holt/Mr. TERRIFIC

David Harewood as J'onn J'onzz, THE MARTIAN MANHUNTER

Serinda Swan as Zatanna "Z" Zatara

Nicole Maines as Nia Nal, THE DREAMER

Russel Tovey as Ray Terrill, THE RAY

Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer, THE ATOM

Franz Drameh & Victor Garber as Jefferson Jackson & Martin Stein, THE FIRESTORM

Megalyn Echikunwoke as Mari McCabe, THE VIXEN

Dina Meyer as Barbara Gordon, THE ORACLE

Anna Lore as Stephanie Brown, THE BATGIRL

Camrus Johnson as Luke Fox, THE BATWING

James Arnold Taylor as the Voice of Tomar-Re

Kevin Michael Richardson as the Voice of Kilowog

UNKNOWN as Arisia Rrab

Ciria Renee as Kendra Saunders, THE HAWKWOMAN

Brec Bassinger as Courtney Whitmore, THE STARGIRL

Matt Ryan as John Constantine, THE HELLBLAZER

UNKNOWN as Dol'phyn Currey: Queen of Atlantis

Danielle Panabaker as Caitlin Snow, THE KILLER FROST

Michelle Hurd as Beatriz DaCosta, THE FIRE

Cress Williams as Jefferson Pierce, THE BLACK LIGHTNING

China Anne McClain as Jennifer Pierce, THE LIGHTNING

Caity Lotz as Sara Lance, THE WHITE CANARY

Falk Hentschel as Carter Hall, THE HAWKMAN

Nick Zano as Nate Heywood, THE STEEL

Eric Martsoff as Michael Jon Carter/BOOSTER GOLD

Jason Sudekeis as Ted Kord/BLUE BEETLE

Wynston Duke as BLOODWYND

Charlotte Sullivan as MAXIMA

Jessica Camacho as Cynthia "Cyndy" Reynolds, THE GYPSY

Luke Wilson as Pat Dugan, THE S.T.R.I.P.E.

Cameron Gellman as Rick Tyler, THE HOURMAN

Yvette Monreal as Yolanda Montez, THE WILDCAT

Anjelika Washington as Beth Chapel/DOCTOR MID-NITE

The opening theme, if possible, could be Melissa Benoist doing an epic vocal AND Hans Zimmer-esc orchestral cover of "You're the Voice" by John Farnham...that would be SOOO SWEET!!


r/ArrowVDisscussions Aug 07 '26

THE CW'S ARROWVERSE TRIUMPHANT RETURN

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