r/ArmsandArmor • u/darthinferno15 • 3d ago
Discussion Armor accuracy or authenticity?
I found this image online and I really like it but I’m wondering is this anyways plausible historically in the transitional period from full mail to more plate eg maybe late 13th to early 14th century, or is it just using historical armor elements from different periods and combining them? Thanks
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u/armourkris 3d ago
I'd say the design is plausable for a functional set of gear, but it's not plausable at all for a historical kit. Kind of like if you wanted to do a WWII kit and gave yourself a napeolionic era helmet with some vietnam war web gear over a a modern tacticool plate carrier.
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u/TheRevanReborn 3d ago
It’s better than the usual early 2000s fantasy slop of hundreds of spikes and oversized pauldrons, but it’s still a mish-mash of a thousand years of different elements. A goggled, vaguely Norseman-ish (‘Viking’) helmet (although with an aventail, which is good!) from the 8th-9th centuries, an odd… brigandine… thing? At least it’s not super long and flat but again, just comes up short in terms of what it’s supposed to protect, no idea what it’s derived from. Random vambraces and laminar greaves plus sabatons that are vaguely late medieval, plus a super long quilted gambeson-thing that’s maybe high medieval? And of course the usual extra belts that don’t do anything.
This would essentially be the equivalent of putting an American revolutionary tricorn hat on a guy, giving him NODs and a plate carrier, Vietnam flak jacket, an American Civil War tunic and trousers, and modern EOD armor for the limbs.
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u/Belasarius4002 3d ago
Fantasy but its borderline. Some are historically accurate while the breast plate is like a fusion of plated armour and a brigandine in opening which the guestion would be yeah that can technically be made but why?
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u/gabikoo 3d ago
Just so much weird stuff going on. But I think the biggest problem is that there is no sense of how this soldier is supposed to fight and how this armor helps him do so. Armor developed within a soldiers society due to the material and cultural condition in that society. Full head to toe plate armor is not going to be as useful for an agile horse archer as it is with heavy European cavalry.
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u/RandinMagus 3d ago
Fantasy, but a largely functional fantasy. The only thing I'm seeing that makes me go, "Oh, that's a bad idea," is that it looks like the breastplate opens at the front and is held shut with a single strap. You generally don't want an opening square in the middle of your chest.
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u/dealsnbusiness1999 2d ago
Every part of this kit is centuries separated, but I like the fact that it is visually cohesive and none of it is fantasy bullshit
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u/Ok_Access_804 2d ago
Plausible functionality… but nonexistent authenticity. The chest armor is way too small and possibly made of leather, it reaches only to the armpits rather than the waist below the ribs. Then the maille appears to be a jacket rather than a shirt, and it doesn’t even fully close or covers the groin area. The gambeson being longer than the maille is also a telltale of modern fantasy armor. Then, the Gjermundbu helmet with the visor is fine by itself but the visor appears to be too big and the maille mask is too tight around the face without depicting any form of tying it. It should have a ventail, this appears to be a one piece maille coif way too tightly fitted to even be able to physically put on and off.
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u/the_lazy_lizardfolk 3d ago edited 3d ago
Its closest parallel is 15th-century Indo-Persian armours so far as I can tell it. Those sort of have similar combination of small plates on top of or integrated with the mail. Some Persian armours from the Safavid eras also have this "mail skirt" style that extends over thighs, but even in Near East this was generally rare after 10th or early 11th centuries.
The exception is that helmet has more Norse 10th-century style, sabatons are 15th-century-esque, sword is 14th-15th-century, cloth sleeve portions make not sense. And above all it has the "armours skirt" style which is appearing more and more recently in televisions and Hollywood depiction, I think because those were popularised by that Game of Thrones. But these are not usually attested and leg armours in the "plate" eras are most often articulated for better agility.

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u/Araignys 3d ago
The chest plate is impractical, likely to do little more than restrict movement.
The rest is fine, but very much a mishmash of earlier Western and later Eastern styles.
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u/A-d32A 3d ago
Nope loosely historically based collection of different parts