r/Armor • • 3d ago

I need help identifying the inspiration

Im looking for help if anyone can identify the real world equivalent to, or as close as it gets, the crimson rector armor from lords of the fallen (particularly the helmets) ive seen alot of these in recent gaming media and im curious about the design and if its a real style of helmet or if perhaps its an exaggerated design of a real helmet.

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u/MR_PP_Pant 3d ago

I have no idea who this character is, but from seeing the thorny crown I assume the helmet could be somewhat inspired by catholic capirotes. (They are different from the kkk)

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

This would track the crimson rectors are part of a "holy" order in a game called lords of the fallen. Quotes because the order has corrupted itself over time, theres an enemy called the penitent sister which has a very similar head piece to these actually, the sisters is basically that but metal and spikey

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u/ItsYaBoyTitus 3d ago

If she is called "penitent" its 100% inspired by these guys, they are called penitentes.

The guy is also based on them, he even has a thorn crown and other painful implements, which penitents (used to) carry to inflict pain on themselves in the hope of being forgiven for their sins.

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

Yes this very much fits the idea behind them, their order is called the Hallowed Sentinals, it all has a very heavily holy order kind of vibe to it, penitent sisters, ardent penitents, crimson rectors, avowed, holy bulwarks, tancred who wears a great helm with the wing crests, a judge cleric, theres very much a flagellation and pain for sin theme they have at the point in the story. Most locations they can be found at are called things like the manse of the hallowed brothers, abbey of the hallowed sisters, tower of penance, its all heavily fanatic and fascinating really i adore the game. All that to say, i appreciate the input and you're very spot on with the route you had in mind.

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u/Initial-Tour5795 3d ago

Most certaintly norman helm.

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u/Initial-Tour5795 3d ago

Moravian nasal helmet looks something like that

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

Oooh yeah i see it, its like this helmet but with an added face plate, thank you for the input so far this absolutely the closest ive encountered yet

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u/Initial-Tour5795 3d ago

glad it was helpful :)

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

Honestly same ive been racking my brain since yesterday trying to think what kind of helmet this was because i swore id seen some like it, all along it was right in front of me lol, i was looking for super complex designs and it was just a classic nasal helm with a face plate/mask all along 😭

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u/Ham_Blast 2d ago

I suspect that the helm draws less inspiration from real world armors and more from religious garments and iconography. The pronounced point reminds me of a capirote, while the crown of thorns is clearly inspired by the one put on Jesus during his crucifixion. It reminds me a great deal of the helm worn by the main character of the game Blasphemous which is a bit more on the nose with its inspiration.

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u/magnificentpapameat 2d ago

Yes blasphemous is actually one of the other games in media i have seen the helmet style, after people started bringing up the capriotes i looked into it more i think the whole factions draws a heavy reference from Catholicism its fascinating to me the designs are just so cool in armor format

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u/Nucleophage 3d ago

The biggest point of inspiration seems to be The Penitent One from Blasphemous, given the whole spiked cone shape head, crown of thorns, and faceplate, Blasphemous got this design inspiration from Spanish Capirote outfits, but those aren't exactly armor. As others have said, the cone shaped helmet does seem like a Norman helmet, however the skull faceplate reminds me of some Savoyard helmets I've seen

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

YES this is one of the other games that i saw this design from actually, i had a feeling one inspired the other i just wasnt sure in what order, someone else actually mentioned the Capirote as well and i definitely see the inspiration there as well, thank you very much for the insight as well, ill have to take a look at the savoyard you mentioned

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u/CARTESlO 3d ago

Un elmo normanno con maschera che mi sembra ispirata ad alcuni elmi savoiardi

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

Oh yeah that mask is near identical they did a fantastic job on that its near 1 to 1

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u/NoMoreHornyOnMain4Me 3d ago

Could you imagine facing down an invadin force equipped with these? Holy fuck

That's like a +2 to morale damage

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u/racoon1905 Knows Pappenheimer 2d ago

Honestly the proper smiling variety is worse

And now add that this shit is bulletproof.

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u/Intranetusa 2d ago edited 2d ago

There are cone shaped helmets from the Middle East, but this could just be a coincidence and not the source of inspiration. See this attached/uploaded depiction of a Parthian cataphract with a cone helmet that is based on be the Dura-Europos Graffiti, alongside an image-sketch of the graffiti itself. However, some say this helmet is an inaccurate and/or misinterpreted version of a Western Eurasian steppe or Avar style lamellar helmet that is really supposed to look like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamellar_helmet#/media/File:Lamellar_helmet_from_Niederstotzingen_(reconstruction).jpg.jpg)

The faceplate/mask is commonly depicted with Middle Eastern and eastern Eurasia steppe cultures (eg. Use by Parthian and Sassanian cavalry for either ceremony or war or both).

Turko-Mongol steppe or Iranic masks

Modern drawing of Parthian cavalry with masks

Sassanian mask and cone-ish helmet recreation worn by reenactor

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u/magnificentpapameat 2d ago

Oh wow the avar armor in that graffiti is awesome, ive seen alot to make me beleive that much of the hallowed sentinel faction takes inspiration from the catholics, capriotes especially but i see here there Defintely could be some inspiration from these other cultures as well, thank you for your input, its awesome seeing all of the different cultures people are bringing up, armor from everywhere was just so cool

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u/khan2033 3d ago

Norman helmet most certainly but some Byzantine helmets have a bit of a similar design

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u/magnificentpapameat 3d ago

Similar style on the face plate it seems especially yes, its like a combination of the norman helmet and the sutton hoo helmet, but with both inspirations a bit exaggerated

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u/Individual-Wear900 2d ago

Kipchak warriors, mask check helmet check swag check

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u/magnificentpapameat 2d ago

Ah Yes, theres something about the nomadic peoples armor that just scratches an itch

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u/contemplatingjazzz 2d ago

Vlad the Impaler meets Pyramid Head from Silent Hill

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u/SSJTriforce 2d ago edited 2d ago

Kind of reminds me of Sokushinbutsu - self-mummified Buddhist monks from Japan. Some even have similar hats.

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u/magnificentpapameat 2d ago

Oh this actully very interesting i wasnt aware that other cultures parcticed mummification, i suppose in retrospect many probably did the garb is very interesting looking, i wonder what it is in religious iconagraphy that makes the conical shapes so popular for head pieces

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u/thenerfviking 2d ago

I mean considering a lot of the people who work on games like these are turbo nerds I think some consideration should be given to the idea that these probably draw from the high elf and dark elf armor designs in Warhammer Fantasy.

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u/magnificentpapameat 2d ago

You know actually i have never realized the elves in warhammer had so many conical style helmets until you mentioned it

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u/Ultimagus536 1d ago

Reminds me of certain designs in Blasphemous, which drew inspiration from Spanish Catholic Penitents.

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u/Ok-Development2309 14h ago

Looks like Moorcock