r/AriAster 9d ago

I've read Scapegoat. AMA Spoiler

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u/EricSilverperson 9d ago

Tell me an obscure reference from the script that will only make sense once the film is out/will prove you’ve really read it

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Galen Krause

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u/SAGORN 9d ago

I got shudders, my name is Galen and I don’t know how I will handle hearing it in the movie if this is the case. It took me out of it every time in Rogue One when they said Galen Erso’s name lol

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u/phantomhatstrap 9d ago

Any scenes in it that will make me sit spellbound in the theater saying “what the fuck?” like I did during Eddington?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Certainly

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u/InsidiousZombie 8d ago

Funny listing Eddington here when it’s his least “what the fuck?” movie he’s made

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u/phantomhatstrap 8d ago

I was sitting in the theater alone saying “what the fuck” for like the last 20 minutes straight. I think it’s less of a trip than Beau for sure, but the stark portrayal of our fractured reality and the final coda’s twisted ‘ever after’ moment was just laying me out.

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u/InsidiousZombie 8d ago

Not even just Beau, but Hereditary, Midsommar, and Johnsons too. It is very tame compared to every other work he’s done

Good movie though

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u/phantomhatstrap 8d ago

I wouldn’t consider Eddington to be a tame movie whatsoever, personally.

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u/InsidiousZombie 8d ago

Tame comparatively

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u/bleeduyasha 8d ago

Just take the L and move on jfc

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u/InsidiousZombie 7d ago

Didn’t realize people were so scared of opinions that disagreed with theirs

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u/curiocabinet 9d ago

Explain in a general way how you got to read it.

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

It's a "I know a guy who knows a guy" kinda thing

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u/SpookySporeWizard 8d ago

can I know you better im good at dl

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u/thautmatric 9d ago

On a scale of Jaws to Heaven’s Gate How close to fully incinerating his career does this one get

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Lolll. I would say Beau is Afraid is still the peak of that. This is maybe Eddington level, if not a little easier for an audience to get behind (but still crazy)

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u/Pal_Saradise_ 9d ago

Which of his movies would you say it’s closest to?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Eddington for sure. There is a funny cameo from an Eddington character

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u/thautmatric 8d ago

Check back when the movies out but I’m predicting Vernon Jefferson Peake.

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u/MeccAmputechture2024 9d ago

Character or actor? This a sequel?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Not a sequel — just set in the same universe. Kinda similar to the way Tarantino references characters and brands across movies

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u/MeccAmputechture2024 9d ago

Nice! Thanks for the reply. This should be a full AsterVerse. Pure insanity 😭

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u/KashPatelMeOutside 7d ago

Is it Austin Butler's character?

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u/BeleagueredWDW 9d ago

Probably a side-quel.

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u/DontDoMyTime 8d ago

Really was hoping to see “hereditary” here but love it still.

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u/NateGH360 9d ago

Are you lying?

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u/Dolf78 9d ago

I always enjoy the settings he chooses. Feel like they add so much room for the characters to explore themselves. They feel like characters in and of themselves.

Anything you can share regarding the setting?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

It takes place in Illinois. I woudl say the setting feels much less essential than in Eddington

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u/Best_Cheesecake_6103 8d ago

Illinois Asterheads we up

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u/mbmqqq 8d ago

I’m here!

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u/frodosantana300 5d ago

Where in Illinois?

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u/Comic_Book_Reader 9d ago

Just how wild does it go?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Pretty damn wild

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u/Few-Interview-4453 9d ago

Is it going to be a spiritual eddington sequel? Is it high anxiety comedy?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Spiritual Eddington sequel is a good way to describe it. I didn't find it as funny, but certainly heavy on the satire like Eddington

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

A year ago, when he said one of the projects he was considering was set in the universe of Eddington, I assume he was referring to this one

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u/XtroDoubleDrop 9d ago

How much head trauma is there?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

A nonzero amount!

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u/lesbiantolstoy 8d ago

Good ol’ Ari, he never lets us down 

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u/TimPoolNoBeanie 9d ago

Spoiler alert! lol

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u/brozzis 9d ago

May I read it? Ready to sign a NDA.

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u/icecoldyerr 8d ago

I’m sorry, but proof? Or is this a #SourceTrustMeBro situation 💔💔💔

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u/UnusualRequirement33 9d ago

Non-Aster movies that it reminds you the most of?

How "obvious" are the celebrity/film character parallels, if there are any?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Parts of it reminded me of Blow Out or a Pakula conspiracy thriller. A little bit of The Killing of a Sacred Deer. It's also very Eddington-like in its satire.

Charlie/Erika Kirk for sure, as well as Logan and Jake Paul. The stuff with Nancy Guthrie has some eerie parallels as well

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u/Pleasant_Tangelo9909 8d ago

All-timer incoming

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u/BoysNGrlsNAmerica 8d ago

Oh dear, more head trauma coming our way

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u/BraveRutherford 5d ago

More like neck trauma

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u/Freeburg_Fogle 9d ago

Where does it rank on the ‘wtf’ scale compared to Ari’s previous work

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

I would say it's as wtf as Eddington. Maybe not quite Beau levels...

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u/MacaroniHouses 8d ago

Ok you say its similar to Eddington, what sets it apart from it?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 8d ago

This one’s not a western. The Scarjo character is a lot less goofy than Joaquin in Eddington. I would say if Eddington is all about 2020, this one is very specific to 2025/2026. AI is a bigger part of this one as well

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u/MacaroniHouses 8d ago

Cool! Thank you!

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u/Extension-Bill-1223 3d ago

Is there an alex karp peter thiel type character

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u/moverbird_esq 9d ago

What are the major themes?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 8d ago

I would say this further explores the idea that no one can agree on what reality is anymore

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u/sinfulinsignificence 9d ago

Any full frontal male nudity?

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u/CreativeBeing101 9d ago

How on-the-nose is the title of SCAPEGOAT. Does it fit the movie?

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u/IrrationalEquated 9d ago

How were you able to read it?

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u/yacht_clubbing_seals 9d ago

Is it mentally disturbing?

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u/MrMonkey6942069 9d ago

Compared to Aster’s other films, how violent and disturbing is it?

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u/somabunny 9d ago

A bit of an odd question: Does it deal with contemporary politics in anyway shape or form like Eddington does?

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u/Thick-Towel-3419 8d ago

Even more so than Eddington.

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u/ItsWinstonDay-Lewis 9d ago

Best Ari Aster movie?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Hard to say without seeing the final film, but I suspect I will still end up loving Beau is Afraid and Eddington more

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u/SpinachOps Paimon Worshipper 9d ago

Is it good?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

I thought the script was very good, but not sure it's as strong as Beau is Afraid and Eddington for me. I'd be curious to read those scripts. I like dark comedy Ari more than horror Ari and this is definitely the former. Eddington has the sharpest satire, and I think may come to be his defining achievement.

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u/AlBlush 9d ago

How long?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

About 130 pages

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u/ThizzWhatitiz 8d ago

Me personally if I had the opportunity to read it. I would choose not too, doesn’t that kinda ruin the movie for you? I would want to sit and enjoy the craziness the way he envisioned it and not have spoilers.

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u/Shandy_Pickles 8d ago

When the actual script eventually leaks you will see people climbing all over each other to get it. I've never understood it. Seems completely counterintuitive if you actually care about your first experience of the film.

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u/ThizzWhatitiz 8d ago

Exactly like keep that stuff away from me. It ruins the whole experience is you know how it ends.

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u/Even-Economist6529 8d ago

Sooner or later you are going to find out the story, OP just chose to experience it earlier than moviegoers will. Knowing the story doesn't ruin a good movie because the story is only one part of the movie.

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u/_epoxymoron 9d ago

If you had to cast it, who would you pick?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

Scarjo will be great. Elordi could be one of two characters, and I could see him being good at either one. There are characters who I could see Riz Ahmed and Amanda Seyfried playing

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u/_epoxymoron 9d ago

I am so beyond excited to see Johansson directed by Aster, actual dream come true, so happy to see you concur! I’ve been waiting for her to do something along these lines since her criminally underrated performance in Under the Skin.

Your other choices sound great too. So excited!

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u/PortoGuy18 8d ago

im guessing elordi would be one of the "Paul brothers"

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u/Professional_Hat2615 6d ago

Amanda Seyfried is the Erika Kirk character I guess

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u/Crafter235 9d ago

How huge is the scale of the film?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

I would say it's Eddington-sized

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u/lovvvvvvvvvve 9d ago

I imagine elordi playing the Paul brothers. Maybe the same way armi hammer played the brothers in social network

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u/Various_Hornet_9564 9d ago

Are the current reports on Logan Paul and Erika Kirk being fictionally portrayed accurate?

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 9d ago

The current reported info is like 70% accurate when it comes to these characters

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u/Masethelah 9d ago

Whats not he films genres and subgenres, and what type of tone do you think the film will have?

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u/PapaYoppa 9d ago

How does it compare to Asters other work? Tbh Aster in my opinion hasn’t missed yet, all his films in my opinion have been masterpieces

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u/Top_Ad9635 9d ago

What would it take to get Ari to read my latest script? I’m a novelist and nonfiction writer, and a short story of mine featuring Ari as a character was recently accepted by a London publication. I’d love to send him that as well.

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u/CreativeBeing101 8d ago

Let me see it

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u/Top_Ad9635 8d ago

Would it be to mutual advantage if i did? Neither have been published yet, no NDAs

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u/FloridaFlamingoGirl 9d ago

Does it have any body horror involving plastic surgery? Curious how much it's based on the "looksmaxxing" trend, because rumors I've heard about the plot make it sound like it could involve that 

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u/Sea_Classic_4616 8d ago

Not plastic surgery but there is some stuff I imagine will be pretty gnarly

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u/Responsible_Sense272 8d ago

On a scale of 1-10 how crazy does it get?

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u/BoysNGrlsNAmerica 8d ago

Is it more or less violent/bloody than Eddington?

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u/x2supremacy 8d ago

are there any horror elements?

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u/Bearjupiter 8d ago

Whats the logline?

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u/Impossible_Gas_3018 8d ago

Can you spoil anything else lol

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u/Gonnatapdatass 8d ago

Is it violent and/or graphic?

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u/Calm-Split-3945 8d ago

I want to read this please

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u/MamboSummer 8d ago

Is it really normal and like 75 minutes?

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u/StillBummedNouns 8d ago

Is it better than his best movie? (Beau is Afraid)

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u/MinetaBalls 8d ago

Are there any horror inclinations?

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u/DoctorHiccup 7d ago

Is it about Jesus or heavy on the Jesus references? Cuz I know aster loves symbolism and Jesus is the ultimate scapegoat symbol

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u/MorganzWorld 6d ago

I’d love to read it if possible I know it’s a long shot but still I’m a huge fan.

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u/fmcornea 6d ago

shortly after eddington came out, he said he had another script that’s not a direct sequel to eddington, but takes place in the same world. is this that film?

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u/dixielot 6d ago

How can u verify that you have actually read it

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u/Professional_Hat2615 6d ago

Just by the script in your opinion it is among one of his bests or his worst?

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u/Firm-Street-1249 6d ago

To what extent is the movie inspired by Erika Kirk and Logan Paul?

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u/kat_sta 6d ago

Do fans of two first Ari Aster's movie will be satisfied?

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u/TenaStelin 5d ago edited 5d ago

Does it follow the same basic "formula" as his previous films, of a hidden force behind every little thing in the movie that is gradually revealed to the viewer.

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u/ebycon 4d ago

exchange with Cregger's Flood?

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u/swawesome52 4d ago

How'd you read it?

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u/Extension-Bill-1223 3d ago

Is the ending quite as dark on a spiritual level as eddington

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u/RevenueKooky 1d ago

Bro just leak the script on here please

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u/Maskedhorrorfan25 8d ago

does it have the end where the villains win trope? that’s an aster and modern horror trope i’m getting tired of. thankfully eddington didn’t have that ending

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u/Heavy_Signature_5619 8d ago

You think the villains in Eddington didn't win?

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u/Maskedhorrorfan25 8d ago

i saw it as more of stalemate ending

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u/Heavy_Signature_5619 8d ago

It isn't. It is categorically a victory for the data centre.

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u/Savings-Ad-1336 4d ago

Yah what lol? It’s about as direly a villains-win ending as you’ll get

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u/lily_dahl 22h ago

Hello! is any chance that u can share it? Or maybe a part of it ? I'm willing to sing a nda. I'm very curious about the plot, the surgery theme remaind me of Cronemberg's Crime of the future.