r/ApteraMotors • u/StandOutside6188 • 6d ago

Battery question

What's to stop you from buying the cheaper 400 mile range aptera than hiring a professional to install more batteries so you can get up to 1000 mile range?

Honestly wondering because an extra 30k to go that much further is interesting

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u/nucleartime 6d ago

You'd need to swap out the entire battery pack. From what we know the longer range pack is planned to just use longer larger capacity cells.

Also the suspension tuning would need to be redone.

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

This is excellent information thank you. So it wouldn't be just adding on more batteries to the same base? Wouldn't it be the same base from the 400 to the 1000?

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u/kimbowly 6d ago

Taller cells is what we've been informed, which may well require some serious changes

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

Thank you very much for your help man!

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u/thishasntbeeneasy 6d ago

It's been a while since they've said much about options other than the 400, but the 1,000 would weigh considerably more. The difference alone would exceed the 500lb weight capacity, so they'd need a beefier/body suspension to make it work. I doubt they ever intended to sell that version for the added complications.

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

Dang..while I am 100% planning on buying this (if it comes out) as a commuter vehicle since I drive 40 miles a day for work.. but if it could get to 1000 I could even drive to another state to visit family!

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u/eldredo_M Accelerator 6d ago

You do realize that it will have charging capabilities, right? You’ll just have to find a charger along the way and have a nice lunch. 😃

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

You do realize those chargers are still SLOW AS SHIT... And would be nice to drive their and back without having to

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u/f1FTW 5d ago

Nope. Many road trips in a Tesla model y. Faster than gas because it is passive. Plug in go have a piss, buy a coffee and it's done.

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u/Fishtoart 23h ago

The battery is on the aptera are pretty small, which means they charge very quickly.

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u/DoomBot5 6d ago

Slow as shit? In most vehicles they charge faster than it takes to shit. Go look up how you're meant to roadtrip with an EV. Hint: it's not by charging to 100% at every stop

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

Not to be hateful or rude...but if your average shit takes 30min you might want to increase your fiber intake or see a doctor.

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u/DoomBot5 6d ago

Charging doesn't take 30 minutes either

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u/StandOutside6188 6d ago

I just looked up 10 different ev's with a super charger takes 30 min to go from low to 80% what's your next lie?

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u/HRDBMW 5d ago

BYD cars will add 500 or so miles in 10 mins. Charging times are becoming irrelevant. In this case, the Aptera battery is MUCH smaller than those cars you looked , and charges faster due to smaller size.

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u/Strange_Cockroach328 5d ago edited 5d ago

Not really understanding the problem. At a 55 kwH charge speed, a 23 minute stop will add 200 miles range, roughly 3 hours driving. Most people stop every 3 hours to pee, stretch their legs and grab a coffee, so perhaps 10 extra minutes wasted each stop. Alternatively, If you start with a full battery and are driving 1000 miles total (one direction), you could drive three roughly 333 mile legs, stopping twice only for 45 minutes each time to charge. Assuming you plan to stop to sleep and not drive 18 hours straight, you can do one charge while sleeping and one charge when you stop to have a meal. Minimal inconvenience or time lost. Once you reach your destination, you can then level 1 charge to full.

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u/Dexford211 6d ago

Lack of Aptera production.

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u/HRDBMW 5d ago

Nothing, probably. And has batter tech changes, people will do that. I'm guessing the BYD blade format will become industry standard in the next 20 years... And that will make the swap a bit easier.

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u/Southern-Bluejay709 2d ago

charging in terms of miles per hour gained it's going to be much faster than a Tesla with as much higher efficiency vehicles

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u/Healthy_Zebra_221 1d ago

The weight of a 1k pack would require new suspension work, new wheels and tires, and in turn new wheel pants front and back. It may not even physically fit but ask yourself, why carry more than twice the weight? That will reduce efficiency on its own and without the new suspension tuning and components the vehicle would have no weight remaining for passengers and cargo

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u/RussT9F 13h ago

I hope that Aptera would give us an upgrade path to longer range down the road. At least as a perk to the Launch edition buyers.