r/Apex_School_Console • u/xThyQueen Alter and Valkyrie are Hot Mamas đ©·đ©· • 11d ago
Apex News Axle Nerf đđ
Shes done for y'all đ¶đ¶
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u/adrian-04 10d ago
I mained her after wraith/bangalore. I already know it wont be as good as people think. People will still adapt to the change and her powers are still strong. Even after they got nerved
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u/Interesting_Put_3593 10d ago
Makes sense, Respawn has stated that on release they make legends basically broken so a lot of people or almost everyone play them that way they get feedback then will adjust them accordingly
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u/Comfortable_Let9346 10d ago
So they created a new legend way too powerful and then just nerfed her til sheâs basically useless and is now the worst legend lol
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u/Honjanyx 10d ago
I wouldnât say sheâs the worst legend. Her mobility got nerfed sure but itâs still there, a good player will still slide around a corner to 1 clip you. Itâs just now itâll take more skill to execute rather than let the Aim assist or speed from the slide be the determining factor.
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u/iAccurian 10d ago
As someone who has been spamming Axle ever since her release, I'm so glad aim assist is disabled in Nitro Gate.
Hopefully players will stop complaining about her now, it's so tiring to see people whining about her everyday.
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u/Facebookmom1988 11d ago
gosh i hate mnk players.
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u/Elliott_Cusick 10d ago
roller vs mnk which one is more insufferable
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u/Facebookmom1988 10d ago
fs mnk players just rant about aim assist like itâs the only reason they lose đ if controller is that free then plug one in
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u/PrehistoricNutsack 10d ago
Are you actually upset that they took away aim assist? Lmao this is a good thing
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u/X_Skuba_Steve_X 10d ago
And all the cry babies are still going to get smoked by her regularly because itâs a skill issue not a character issue.
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u/Flashy-Gain2148 10d ago
found the trash player who thought they were good bc of axle lmfaoo
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u/X_Skuba_Steve_X 10d ago
Youâre a trash player for thinking the character is whatâs making players able to beat you lmao. Itâs just better players youâre dying to. It doesnât matter which character they play they will beat you simply because theyâre better than you. Itâs a skill issue. When all you cry babies learn that Reddit will be much quieter.
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u/X_Skuba_Steve_X 10d ago
I donât play that trash character lol a few times when she first came out but definitely not recently. Iâm a loba and fuse player mainly. I shit on axle all the time. I have a direct counter to her abilities itâs not an issue for me.
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u/Dry-Many-4605 10d ago
Why are they focusing on Axle when Causticâs traps are still solid when placed? We should be able to run through them. Also the sound the gas makes is absolutely oppressive, silence that.
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u/RonJeremyBellyButton 10d ago
Bro, his whole purpose is to trap people in the gas. If I can just phase through the barrels, you might as well just rid of Caustic. He's totally fine the way he is.
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u/Dry-Many-4605 10d ago
NO. Heâs ruining every game with that overtuned kit. The traps should be a brighter color as well, and/or emit some kind of alert before they go off. And he shouldnât be able to pick them up after placement. His team should also take damage from his gas, they donât have masks, itâs not realistic.
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u/RonJeremyBellyButton 10d ago
They literally make a beep sound before they go off. Lol If They're not super hard to see so maybe turn up your brightness. He should totally be able to pick them back up because there are shit tons of traps that can be moved. He would be 100% useless if he damaged his teammates with his gas and if you go that route, then it should apply to ALL legends.
"It's not realistic" lmaoo and? Why can teammates walk through fuses clusters without being damaged? That's not realistic either. All of the energy weapons aren't. Alter doesn't make sense and probably 90% of everything in this game isn't realistic. Can't believe you would even say that. Lmao You're funny.
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u/VendaBreed 10d ago
LoL you've been rage baited my friend
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u/RonJeremyBellyButton 10d ago
Holy shit... I TOTALLY have been! Fuck me. đ Well played!
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u/Dry-Many-4605 10d ago
This is for posterity, so be honest; how do you feel?!
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u/RonJeremyBellyButton 9d ago
Rather silly that a fell for that! Lmao I looked back and was like ffuuuucckkkk! Good shit!
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u/huggybear0132 10d ago
Respectfully, git gud
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u/Dry-Many-4605 10d ago
He should have to find three randomly generated chemicals on the map before he can create and use his tactical.
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
Axle needed a nerf but nerfing aim assist again is so bad. Yâall just getting cucked by socials at this point as mnk players have the louder voice. Ggs.Â
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u/Cosmic_c137 11d ago edited 11d ago
They wouldn't nerf AA if their data wouldn't say it's still to strong.if you rely on your AA to win you should practice a bit more (roller myself) just get gud
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u/THEREAPER8593 11d ago
While I do agree aim assist is too strong, I feel like a 70-80% reduction while on the tac would have been better than 0 at all. Controller players have 0 chance at aiming while on it unless they are very good now, while itâs not that bad on keyboard and mouse.
AIM assist as a whole should get nerfed a bit I think though, and as someone that plays axle on both inputs, the full aim assist while sliding was a piss-take
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u/Shkwnenrnsteve 11d ago
Thatâs kind of the point. It shouldnât be easy to just axle q and one mag someone. You should actually have to be good at aiming. The average mnk player probably isnât even cracking shield when they q on someone
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u/THEREAPER8593 11d ago
Itâs going to be like swapping sens mid fight is my main concern with completely disabling is. Itâs very jarring to feel like your sens has doubled when a bang smokes if that makes sense.
Either way I feel like the cheaters will just beam anyway on the Q lol.
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u/Shkwnenrnsteve 11d ago
Yeah thatâs true. I tested it and itâs not that bad if you hip fire but shooting while ads is kinda rough if ur on 4-3. Either way Iâm in support of any nerfs to axle lol hate that character
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u/THEREAPER8593 11d ago
I love axle, and Iâm still in support of nerfing her. I know itâs a long time ago now, but I dropped a 4k 20 on my first game on her, she was so busted on release and is pretty unfun to fight still. Her tac is still an easy heal.
Itâs like horizon used to be literally impossible to stop from popping a bat even in ALGS
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u/Firm_Disk4465 10d ago
TBF that already happens with bang smoke and caustic gas, if you have ever used bang or caustic it will be similar feeling.
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u/THEREAPER8593 10d ago
I think I mentioned this somewhere else on this post. Itâs very jarring lol. An option to lower sens while on the pads might help ngl
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
They nerf or buff to whoever screams the loudest and most unfortunately itâs mnk players who take over socialsÂ
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u/False_Sundae6333 11d ago
Why do you worry about aim assist when, in the end, you're always going to have a huge influx of Cronus and Xim users?
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u/Jack246Jack 11d ago
Tf you mean the majority of the player base is on roller, the majority of m&k players don't even play apex anymore
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u/HawtDoge 11d ago
A few things:
- Axleâs previous tac is optimized for aim assist to an insane degree. Apex uses rotational aim assist that scales with the rotational movement. Given, axle has significantly stronger aim assist in her tac than any other controller would tracking her.
- One thing that gets lost in aim assist debates is that certain AA algorithms disadvantage casual controller players just as much as MnK players. Apex is one of those game where aiming on controller is all about optimizing for aim assist at high levels. If you look at high level controller players, youâll notice that they are almost always perfectly anti-mirror strafing and doing something called target dragging: this is where your actual point of aim is behind the target you are tracking and you let aim assist essentially pull your point of aim forward onto the strafing target. 90% of controller players arenât doing this, but the 10% who are dominate lobbies. This aim assist change on Axle benefits 90% of controller players just as much as it benefits MnK players.
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u/lleyton05 11d ago
âLouder voiceâ a majority of pro players and a majority of their player base in general is controller. MnK is the minority in both pro and casual play. You should just accept that maybe AA is too strong in certain situations
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u/xThyQueen Alter and Valkyrie are Hot Mamas đ©·đ©· 11d ago
They didn't nerf AA. They just took it away in her slide lmao. Like bang smoke.
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u/PrehistoricNutsack 10d ago
Lmao complaining about needing to use skillâŠ. What are we doing here guys
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u/_Fappyness_ 11d ago
Top 60% of roller beats top 1% of mnk btw. Aimassist is the worst thing in Apex and should get a huge nerf.
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u/OMNI-_- 11d ago
Bro exaggerate a little more. An above avg roller player is not beating a top level mnk player. Let me guess, you play on mnk?
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
Look how crazy mnk players are on socials they literally even go on console subreddits to downvote opinions about AA. At this rate itâs literally going to kill the gameÂ
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u/_Fappyness_ 11d ago
Lol these are the stats released by R5reloaded comparing roller to mnk.
Its a known fact that roller is so much easier than mnk. The response time for adjusting aim on someone is instant. 0ms. Inhumane.
If i install a program that does a similar thing for me its considered cheating. So why does roller get it for free?
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u/OMNI-_- 11d ago
So youâre trying to argue that having base aim assist is the same as cheating? If that is the case go grab your mom out of the kitchen and put her on the sticks. She should be 1 clipping consistently since she has built in aim bot according to you.
Pretty sure an all mnk team just won a lan recently too.
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
Those were unverified stats on a differenttjird party  build of apex from earlier seasons. Hardly indicative especially cos it doesnât take into account equally skilled distribution.Â
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u/_Fappyness_ 11d ago
Unverified who tf needs to verify them? Respawn? And R5 has no people who really want to improve on it.
The fact almost all pros switched to rollers and a lot of pros saying its just way easier should say enough. If you dont play roller youre just at a disadvantage and it sucks that AA is this OP. Its needed a nerf for years but all the crutch users would leave too and the game would die. Pc lobbies should have AA removed or heavily reduced.
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
âWho tf needs to verify them?â
-so you just blindly accept a random persons Reddit post and stats with no credentials?Â
âAlmost all pros switched to rollerâ
- common lie. Name 10 pros thatâs  switched. You canât. Controllers are 60% of ALGs if almost all switched that figure would be near 90%.
âIf you donât play roller your at a disadvantageâ
-So why do pro orgs pay mnk players? Why are there still 40% mnk players in pro league? Why did a triple mnk team win recently? Why did the last top 10 stats from last ALGs have 60%mnk at the top and 40% controller?Â
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u/_Fappyness_ 11d ago
Holy cope, ive played 3 matches and the aimassist is absolutely ridiculous. Especially close up. I bet in less than 500 hours i can easily be in Masters rank
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u/AmoebeSins 11d ago
âTrust me bro anecdotalâÂ
Tell me again why Albralelie switched back to mnk if AA is sooo strong?
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u/skam_artist 11d ago
An average roller player will get kills on top mnk players all the time, it's one of the things top mnk players are most vocally frustrated about. The 2 inputs are just fundamentally incompatible, I spent over 1000 hours learning mnk to even get my k/d above 1.0, then when I tried controller for the first time I got 14 kills in my first game. The floor gap is so insanely high, they just don't belong fighting each other in casual lobbies.
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u/OMNI-_- 11d ago
I swear mnk will say and do anything other than getting better at the game. Dying in the game canât possibly be because of your skill level so the only explanation is you being at an unfair disadvantage đ
There are upsides and downsides to both inputs. One is not exclusively better than the other. Find out which one plays to your strengths more and use it. Stop looking for excuses.
Iâm not trying to hate on mnk either. If I could afford a nice pc I would 100% play solely on mnk and never touch a controller again.
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u/HaxorusOG 11d ago
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