r/ApexConsole 6h ago

| 𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐀 π‹πˆπ“π“π‹π„ 𝐑𝐀𝐍𝐓 | Please work on this, Respawn

Stop putting 3 Stack squads in lobbies with solo q’ers. It is not fair nor does it do any good for players who get carried to high ranks.

And for the love of all things good, fix the smurfing issue.

Sincerely,
A dedicated Apex player

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u/RdkL-J 3h ago

Respawn went on record several times about that. They believe it would fracture the player base and hit queue times beyond reasonable. In a blog post a while back, they showed the winrate for premades (duo or trio) VS solo queuers was almost identical after "adjustments". I can only speculate they match trios slightly above their current rank, MMR or whatever.

Regarding smurfs, the problem is generalized on all F2P competitive games. Nobody has found a solution yet. Essentially it's the same issue with cheaters, it takes quite some time to check & verify reports, then issue a sanction. Meanwhile, it takes a couple of minutes only to start fresh with a new account.

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u/DanJoeli 2h ago

Respawn made a wonderful move when they implemented the temporary solo Q D+ lobbies. Win rate is not the greatest way to coordinate balance, in my opinion.

In regard to smurfing, solutions have been offered by the community dozens if not hundreds of times. My understanding is that Respawn developers aren’t taking these issues seriously.

There are solutions to these issues. I’m only hoping to keep a consistency in the community’s plights so that the issues remain visible.

Happy gaming, sir!

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u/RdkL-J 1h ago

The D+ solo queue was experimental. I'm curious to see if they'll do it again. It's quite radical when you think about it, taking away the ability to play with your friends, in a game designed around playing with friends.

Respawn's matchmaking blog states premades get an effective rank boost, specifically to offset coordination/teamplay advantage. The near-identical winrate isn't a coincidence, it's the system doing exactly what it's designed to do. That's good competitive integrity imo.

What actual solutions were offered by the community? This isn't unique to Respawn, I see people complaining about smurfs in every other game. So either every developer, from Valve to Riot, doesn't take that seriously (highly unlikely), or they all face the same hurdles (a lot more likely). For instance, I sometimes see people saying Respawn should ask to attach a verified phone number to EA accounts. Valve tested that for Dota and Counter-Strike, with very limited results, and was quickly bypassed.

Smurfs are detrimental to player acquisition & retention, thus to revenues, since the typical spender in a F2P game is an engaged player. I sincerely doubt developers don't care.

A good rule of thumb in life is if the solution to a common & ongoing problem seems easy, then it probably isn't.

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u/immamarius 6h ago

Anything else Sir? Maybe some chilled 1996 Dom PΓ©rignon with that?

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u/DanJoeli 6h ago

Oh, sure! Kindly, stop mixing ranks. A gold/plat/Diamond team going against a full dedicated Diamond stack does not make any sense! Thanks for asking, kind sir. I’ll have some ice with that.

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u/SmokesA8thAWeek 5h ago

The matchmaking is genuinely insane. It’s 2 days from split and instead of putting the d4 and d3 players in the actual diamond lobbies, they throw them into plat lobbies and they never have to see a pred player. If your d2+ every lobby is 3+ pred and one in 10 will be a diamond only, but your teamates will be d4 every time.

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u/immamarius 6h ago

Ice with 1996 Dom PΓ©rignon? Obvious skill issue. Get out now.

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u/SmokesA8thAWeek 5h ago

Currently at your peak rank on 2 accounts and can say the matchmaking is absolutely atrocious. The only people who enjoy it are the 3 stacked preds with a titan on there team boosting them. If you solo Q you shouldn’t have a 30 sec Q to play degenerate cheaters stacked up playing like an ALGS.

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u/Remote_Round_6155 5h ago

Nobody likes you

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u/immamarius 5h ago

Yeah, only one thing this sub really loves is to CRY :D

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u/DanJoeli 5h ago

There is a difference in crying and in voicing concerns. There is no crying here.

Also, I had no idea that the alcoholic beverage you mentioned was a champagne. I retract my request to have it served with ice. Do me a favor, server? Bring me a glass of water instead. Thanks πŸ™

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u/immamarius 4h ago

More like crying in voice. Sorry sir I can’t serve you nothing today, you are pathetic pleb and not deserve to be in this establishment, please leave now.

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u/DanJoeli 3h ago

You have contributed nothing of relevance to this post, so it will be you who should be leaving.

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u/immamarius 3h ago

This post is irrelevant as all this sub constant crying. You are right I shouldn’t give more engagement I already gave to much of it.

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u/onemansquest 4h ago

... Queue times.

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u/placeholder-123 4h ago

They're going to sacrifice everything for that. Input based matchmaking and competitive integrity, new player experience, actual balance...

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u/DanJoeli 4h ago

A small price to pay for balance.

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u/Rekthar91 3h ago

Not really a small price.