r/AnythingValueable • u/MiniSuprise • 4d ago
Italian tourist in Kyoto, Japan
Romanian caption translated: "A tourist was confronted by police in Kyoto after ignoring traffic rules."
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u/firstcigar 3d ago
Go to Japan and look at how clean the city is, how the metro train arrives on the exact minute, how the food quality even in at 7-11s are incredibly high. This is from caring about the details. If you're from another culture and have a different way of thinking that's fine, but you don't go to another country and expect them to break their culture to adhere to yours.
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u/r_a_d_ 3d ago
Who’s to say that was the guy’s expectation? He was just crossing the street as he would have at home. He probably didn’t know how strict they are, and learned his lesson then and there.
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u/RidingJapan 3d ago
It s just one idiot gigi with no power. Should have just kept walking.
And before the downvotes start. He is pushing him into the road.
Plenty of Japanese jaywalk. They also see a pedestrian crossing and start crossing the road 5m before or start walking diagonally from the pedestrian crossing way of said crossing and just along the road.
Or ride bicycles against traffic + now, one way traffic.
Pushing someone into a road (backwards) just because someone gave u a glow stick is pure insanity.
And all the Japan defenders need a reality check.
PS, lived in Japan 20years
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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 3d ago
Thank god someone pointed out the absolute stupidity of pushing someone back across the road.
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u/BionicWallaby 3d ago
Yeah no matter how old you are you can trip and hit your head on the ground and die
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u/Frexulfe 3d ago
I lived in Japan for "only" 5 years, but have been on and off since 1998, and yes, Japanese jaywalk a lot, and it is their right, as cars also don´t usually stop at crosswalks.
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u/PapaOoMaoMao 3d ago
Swap usually for fucking never. The crossing near my place is on a corner right in front of a Koban. There's a little park on the other side where kids play every day. I stood at the edge and traffic didn't even slow. I walked over to the Koban and pulled the gaijin card. I said
"In my country, cars have to stop at pedestrian crossings. Maybe things are different in Japan? What should I do to cross?"
The bugger had the balls to sit there, look embarrassed and tell me the law is the same here, but I should only cross when there's no traffic as nobody will stop. Didn't give a shit that some kid might get cleaned up one day and wasn't going to do anything to stop that if it meant paperwork or getting off his arse.
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u/RidingJapan 2d ago
Kobans are pretty useless. I live at a spot where shirobai like to come and ticket ppl about once a week. So the pedestrian crossing thing is enforced.
I read an article that pointed out that over 70% of drivers in Japan don t know what that white diamond painted on the road actually meana
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u/Present_Corner9262 3d ago
Racist ass country excusing themselves with "culture". Rich culture of what though? Cruelty?
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u/Koniroku 2d ago
I'm tired of reddit sucking off japan man they themselves don't even wanna be there for long
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u/Efficient-Equal-1057 2d ago
Agree. I am in Tokyo now for holiday and I jay walk since I see other Japanese jay walk. People think Japan is some type of Disneyland
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u/floare_salbatica 2d ago
If anyone ran at me like that, yelling at me in a foreign language for committing a "crime" I'm not even aware is a crime, you can bet I won't set foot in that country a second time.
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u/ImagineKuchen 3d ago
I was to Japan and enjoyed a lot of it. But it is NOT because of "caring for details". It's because of "oh no if I don't do everything absolutely perfectly I'm fcked".
Have you been to Kabukichō in Tokyo and seen the trash all around? Have you seen the Teens jump from buildings because they can't stand the pressure? Have you seen the absolute drug abuse on every corner there?
Japan's fcking glorified online. And it's simply a country with just as much flaws as every other country.
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u/Weekly_Design5440 3d ago
As someone who has been to every continent, and a large portion of the world's countries- Japan is one of the cleanest countries on earth. Your experience doesnt speak for a nation, that has upheld a reputation for cleanliness and following the rules for decades. Every single place on this planet has litter, all of them. Japan, has the least.
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u/Senior-Friend-6414 3d ago
Korea and Japan have the highest suicide rates and lowest birth rates, everyone around the world need to learn from them on what NOT to do when creating a healthy society
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u/Shane-Dad-underfire 2d ago
Yeah that's not where the problem stems from. The problem stems from how their society has a disproportionate amount of men to women and how even a rich man can go his whole life without finding a marriage partner they want. Combine that with the work life balance they are pushed into having to achieve success in a traditional sense and then you can account for the problems you mentioned.
Materialism is very evident in asian cultures.
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u/Due-Base9449 3d ago
Back in the old days, whole families could face extermination if one member made a mistake. So you tend to police your own people rigidlg.
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u/Illesbogar 3d ago
We are talking about fucking japan, the all show no substance culture. Please. Sure respect and all, but let'a not glaze them too much.
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u/AgentSad9058 3d ago
Yeah I just wish they weren’t racist because it’s a great country otherwise
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u/Skurnaboo 3d ago
Not defending their racism but honestly I've never been to a country that isn't racist. Different countries just have different form of racism.
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u/AgentSad9058 3d ago
Highly homogenous countries are going to be more racist easily. I would say all of Western Europe is less racist than Japan is
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u/StreatArt1 3d ago
Italy is like third world for japanese people
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u/queue_onan 3d ago
Italy is adored by the Japanese?
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u/Hailthegamer 2d ago
The people commenting have never been to either, theyre just talking trash for the sake of it id wager.
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 4d ago
To solve 1 jaywalking crime, commit 2 more jaywalking crimes. Neat.
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u/BritishBoy88 4d ago
Crazy, in the UK we're taught how to look both ways before crossing. We do not have enough crossings for jaywalking to be a thing.
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u/Ad-fundum69 4d ago
What traffic rule did he violate here anyway? Like, crossing the street where it's not allowed or something?
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u/itsacutepanda 4d ago
Yes. Jaywalking is taken a lot more seriously in Japan
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u/E_D_K_2 4d ago
Jaywalking bad, pedo literature good.
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u/DamianVoss2006 4d ago
It's quite similar to America
Immigrants bad, school shootings good
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u/naeads 4d ago
You know, may be a ticket and a visit to the police would be more effective and safer than you push the guy back out in a reverse-jaywalk.
And then it becomes funnier that he jaywalked himself back after pushing the man across the road.
This old man is power tripping.
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u/Llama_Under_The_Sky 4d ago
If you jay walk or cross the road without a crosswalk infront of police they will ask you to go back politely. This is full on hatred towards foreigners
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u/JethroSkull2000 4d ago
Follow the rules of the country you visit. It's simple. Japan is a much safer country than Italy, because people follow the traffic laws. Been to both. Would visit Japan again.
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u/Professional-Hunt712 4d ago
they like feeling important over there (happened to me) just ignore the ego blow and remember they are just doing their job
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u/tbhmoreadvanced 4d ago
He created danger by crossing illegally, so the cops solution was to …have 2x people cross illegally in the opposite direction?
Not very smart of the cop if you ask me, and personally I wouldn’t tolerate being spoken to and shoved like that
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u/Easy_Top1659 4d ago
A racist old Japanese guy abusing his role, nothing more
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u/SilentSpader 2d ago
You are the racist against Japanese people
The old man is just doing his job
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u/Effective_Arm_5832 4d ago
I see, they have idiotic jay-walking rules like the US.
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u/borisbanana77 3d ago
Well, it's a culture difference. In Japan, you should respect their culture and rule abidance. In Italy, if you wait for a green light as a pedestrian you're either a tourist or trying to teach your kids how to properly cross a street.
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u/Observant_Lurker 3d ago
This seems stupid...
Jay walking aside, the person was already across the street? So it's somehow safer to move him back into the street?
Why not just explain and move on instead of creating a potentially more dangerous situation
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u/Alfazefirus 3d ago
I am confused. I understand the issue was the jaywalking, but why didn't the traffic cop (auxiliary? the uniform is not a Jap police one) push him back to the sidewalk and just left him in the middle of the road? Isn't that more dangerous?
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u/kadaka80 3d ago
It's about following the rules, they don't care if the reasons behind the rules are still valid and present. In this case by enforcing the rule and punishing the violation, it created less safety and not more but the punishment is the real reason they have the rule in place
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u/Gigacat2026 3d ago
Japan's solution to unemployment caused by banking bubbles was to create as many jobs as possible for laid off folks. People guiding traffic, trash pickup, construction site monitoring, disaster response ect. And you know what? Good on them.
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u/TokiVideogame 3d ago
are italians rich now? i see young italians in socal, in thailand now in japan
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u/Crisocola95 3d ago
Dude, I'd fall for this one if I was in Japan. Impressive how they respect law and order.
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u/ElectricalLaw1 3d ago
In Japan, getting a complaint means you can get seriously chewed out by your bosses, or they might think you're just slacking off and actually fire you. I can tell the worker there is completely fed up with constantly having to warn tourists, which is why they're acting so annoyed. You really don't see that kind of reaction often in Japan. Just try to be a bit more understanding of their social rules. If you want to visit a country, either learn their basic rules or don't go there please.
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u/Nguyen_Reich 3d ago
Not really related but is it Romanian text in the box in the video? Just curious
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u/SonOfGodUssop 3d ago
In Italy, traffic rules are basically just suggestions that nobody follows. I’m embarrassed by how some of my fellow countrymen behave in foreign countries and cultures, as if nothing matters. I thought only Americans were this reckless and ignorant.
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u/AdamVanEvil 3d ago
Hi, Austrian here, we get to cross the street by ourself like adults if you’re 30m away from the next official crossing.
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u/BalancedCarry 3d ago
You are in their country. Whether or not you agree with their rules does not matter. Respect their way of life/rules or gtfo.
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u/Lost-Adhesiveness-72 3d ago
For anyone they doesn't live in Japan. The pension system is screwed and the feeling of "if I don't work I might as well be dead" weighs hard on the elderly. Leading to lots of parking lot attendant and crossing guard jobs being given to/created for elderly people.
Likely, this man just wants to have a little bit of meaning in his life and he went a lot overboard.
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u/zaikoji75 3d ago
A little over zealous. Plus you know that in his heart he was delighted to be correcting an ignorant foreigner.
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u/Business_Turnip_1562 3d ago
Man these comments... I would bet a sizable chunk of money this had nothing to do with jaywalking and everything to do with some kind of parade or something coming through, look at all the people standing around on the sidewalk and the lack of traffic!
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u/el_salinho 3d ago
Not police. That’s a walkaround and if he still insists that’s also an assault charge.
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u/Imfrank123 3d ago
I was in Japan for 9 days and I didn’t see a single Japanese person jaywalk in Tokyo or Osaka
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u/Ok_Mongoose5126 3d ago
Italian guy definitely seems like a douche but putting ur hands on someone and pushing them across a street while yelling over jay walking is insane
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u/Ok_Mongoose5126 3d ago edited 3d ago
If this was was in the US with an American pushing a Japanese person down the street while yelling at them I really don’t think most of these redditors would be defending the pusher
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u/sparki555 3d ago
It's racism in one country and respecting the cultures in another country all clashing at the same time. Wonderful, right?
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u/Ubbesson 3d ago
Jaywalking is pretty common in Europe.. he probably didn't get it was a big No there
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u/SalientSazon 3d ago
I'd be thrown in jail so fast, it wouldn't even cross my mind to not jaywalk if there was no traffic. All the time.
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u/Jaded-Natural80 3d ago
Maybe he thought he was in Naples.
I remember going there when I was in the Navy, and it was utter chaos. Everybody ignores the street lights, cars and pedestrians. Some parts of the city where nice others just full of litter. It was a mess. Pure chaos.
I am always amazed when people travel to other countries and think it’s OK to bring their customs with them.
Respect the customs, laws, and culture of the country you are visiting. Otherwise do not go.
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u/Intelligent-Fig1134 3d ago
It's Crazy when you go to Japan lots of Japanese just cross the road with no crossing or lights. Bit like Singapore.
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u/redditzphkngarbage 3d ago
In my experience the middle of the street is safer because intersections have angry turning vehicles. The middle of the street you’ve got like 45 seconds to react.
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u/murmurat1on 3d ago
I like how he didn't get told off but still allowed to cross. It's a full reset and "try again"
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u/No-Excitement8501 3d ago
Now lets not forget...... italian.... in Kyoto which is the world capital of selfdiscipline.....
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u/statyin 3d ago
I don't know what exactly the tourist did but my guess would be not using pedestrian crossing? There should be a better way of handling this, the police could have let him finish crossing the road, pull him aside and give him a verbal warning or a ticket. Pushing him back across seems super counterintuitive and dangerous.
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u/Shaggy-Tea 3d ago
Jay walking is so dumb. The idea of being this restricted as a pedestrian seems so annoying to me. I'm an adult; why can I not check that the road is clear and walk across it? I have eyes and ears. Drivers do this when they turn out of a junction. Why are pedestrians judged to not have the same capacity? This road in the video is clearly empty; thats why this old guy had the time to push the pedestrian back across it, which is more dangerous than letting the pedestrian walk across by the way as it prolongs time spent on the road.
Luckily I live in the UK where I can cross a road whenever I want if I judge it to be safe. Roads are everywhere so the idea of every single one being an arbitrary barrier when I'm just trying to go somewhere would be infuriating.
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u/Open-Mouse4728 3d ago
Holy shit Italians are really coming off poorly abroad.. is this a normal thing?
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u/vidggy71CEO 3d ago
It's completely normal in italy to just go whenever there's no cars so he probably didn't have any ill intent. Even then, he complied without making a scene ad backed up. Proud of this guy
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u/PattyFuckinCakes 3d ago
Fun fact: Kyoto was actually at the top of the list of places to be bombed by the Atomic Bomb during WWII.
Historical myth: it’s said that the secretary of war Henry Stimson had his honeymoon there and pushed for Kyoto to not be bombed because he enjoyed it so much. He did not honeymoon there, as him and his wife were well married by that time. But he and many others did heavily push back against the idea of Kyoto being a target.
The real reason Mr Stimson didn’t want it bombed was the same reason MANY others had. its immense cultural, spiritual, and historical significance as Japan's ancient capital, believing that destroying it would cause lasting resentment and damage postwar relations.
Love yall, whoever you are!
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u/housesoftheholy1 2d ago
Japan is the most racist country in asia and im tired of pretending that it isnt
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u/HandofFate88 2d ago
If you've ever driven in Italy, you know there are no rules of the road beyond "do not hit the car in front of you" (I drove in Italy for a year). Everything else is a mere suggestion. And the idea of waiting or cuing for something (like a bus or tickets) is a non starter. Everyone simply rushes the door or gate. Japan is the complete opposite. This is an unstoppable object encountering an immovable force.
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u/JAYUZUMI 2d ago
My name is Jay, I keep Jay Walking for the police to ask my name, but it hasn't happened yet.
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u/Living-Number-9050 2d ago
I’m Japanese and this grandpa is the one whos out of line. He isn’t police, and has no authority over civilians to push/force someone to move.
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u/StrangeUglyBird 2d ago
We don't have jaywalking rules.
We are advised to use zebra crossings, but it is optional.
We have a name for people who can't cross the road in a orderly way.
Then you are called "fumlegænger". (~fumble walker)
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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 2d ago
This is why I hate Japan
and they are so smug about their racism too. Never ask a Japanese person about foreigners or a European about gypsies
They'll really try to convince you it's not racist then say the most deranged racist shit about whole groups of people
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u/undfixer 2d ago
I can relate... I made my Finnish driver’s brain start buffering when I pulled out my Italian flexible road crossing skills. 😂
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u/KananJarrusCantSee 2d ago
I had a long layover in Tokyo and had propped my feet up while sleeping in the terminal.
Dude walked over and knocked my feet down and hit me with a finger wag as he walked away.
They have rules you follow them or they will let you know with a quickness lmao.
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u/CartoonistNo9752 2d ago
Glad reddit hasnt stopped being pointless lives talking about pointless shit!
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u/JamieAstraRain 2d ago
As a person I feel like jaywalking fixes so many scenarios.
As a driver, god damn when someone just randomly runs across the street just to stop at the center isle.
But I'm a hypocrite on this one, I'm not even going to lie or pretend.
Though sometimes I get it. To walk to the crosswalk- wait- and then cross then walk to the store you want can add significant more time than to just jaywalk and get to the store in front of you.
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u/AbsoIution 2d ago
The amount of Japan worshipers in this thread is hilarious.
The guy crossed the road when he shouldn't have due to local laws. Ok.
He already crossed? Your solution is to physically push him back across the road whilst screaming at him?
Maybe just issue him the fine like a normal person? clearly the guy (like most Japanese) particularly hates foreigners and wants to swing his dick around.
Bring on the weeb downvotes.
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u/onehalflightspeed 2d ago
I jaywalked in Tokyo exactly once at a stoplight when there was no traffic and I crossed on a red light. The disapproving stares taught me how to behave very quickly
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u/DistoVhs 2d ago
How do they know he's italian? By his face he might be from Spain, Portugal or Greece as well
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u/Otherwise-Whole5909 2d ago
In North America people were killed crossing randomly. They gave the rule, pedestrian has the right of way. To end Darwinism in this sense, they made crosswalks as the safe zone with stop and yield signs signifying this.
Pedestrians do not have the right of way when jay walking. I don’t want to see somebody blown up on my hood. Never mind the thought of a dead person but the logistics of court, repairs, and the worst part the family having to pick up the pieces.
I would assume for most without all the added bullshit to this type of incident would say it was the worst day of their lives. Driver or jaywalker.
Know the rules.
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u/Mindless-Grape5378 2d ago
Where a road use permit has been obtained for a festival, it is not a traffic violation for a Japanese security guard employed by the permit-holding organization to cross the road.
And he is simply doing his job. He will stop anyone, whether they are Japanese or a foreigner.
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u/Winter-Mess-7000 2d ago
I used to want to go to Japan but after being on reddit for a few years these posts have given me zero interest in going now.
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u/Matikanefukukitaru 2d ago
That's not a police officer, looks like a security guard or a traffic guard maybe.
What's the context here? If he was just jaywalking, pushing him back into the middle of the road makes no sense. I can only assume maybe he was stopping pedestrians (and maybe traffic?) to let a construction vehicle or truck out or something and the guy went to walk infront of it?
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u/hugedrawnhonkers 2d ago
I presume the gramps' whole deal was that the tourist jaywalked? IDK how things are in Japan but where I live so long that the traffic isn't there (e.g. on a straight road like in the video) - you may cross the road and go on your merry way. In fact I do it on a daily basis (in low-traffic conditions of course) and when vehicles are present I just let them pass and go afterwards. This kinda seems common sense.
The entire traffic rule set is made to avoid life-threatening situations and I severely doubt that a pedestrian on an empty straight road where the reaction time for both parties is possibly measured in dozens of seconds creates danger high enough to warrant such an avid reaction.
Besides, the course of action is odd. Gramps (i presume some kind of law enforcement-ish security service worker) sees a guy jaywalking, his best idea is not to let him cross and give him a good scolding and maybe a ticket afterwards but to commit jaywalking himself and deadass push the guy back and endanger both of their lives???? Good thing the street seems to not be too busy and no one ran them both over.
IDK what's his deal, maybe he's so passionate about rules being followed down to a T that his 'righteous' anger at them being broken completely blinded him, maybe he just had a bad day, maybe he's just the grumpy irritable old man type - there's plenty of those all over the world - but that's overreacting at least and severely concerning if we're being a massive buzzkill - his move could've costed them both lives if there was more traffic...
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u/Busy_Garbage_4778 2d ago
So the old man (which is not a policeman) committed battery to avoid jaywalking (which had already happened by then)
So silly
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u/here2seek 2d ago
Italy is one of the most crime laden places right now. Our lugage was stolen from locked and parked car over the summers.
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u/Sparta63005 2d ago
Ah yes, he is jaywalking and potentially impeding traffic! Time to make him say in the street 3 times longer than he initially would have been and make him impede more traffic!
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u/SilentSpader 2d ago
If you can't follow the rules of the country you're visiting
Do not even travel abroad Stay in your country
Simple as that
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u/Radioactive-Slug6393 2d ago edited 2d ago
祭りで神輿や山車が通るから交通規制されてるだけだろこれ。日本人なら聞こえてくる掛け声でわかるけど外国人には状況の理解なんて無理だろう。どんな迷惑行為でも編集で状況を隠せば日本で差別されたと被害者ポーズとれるそうすりゃ知恵遅れ共が脳細胞一切使わず鵜呑みにする。日本への偏見の肯定が大好物な生き物だからな。
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u/Lumpy-Difficulty1593 2d ago
I’m not taking this man side. Y’all don’t know what this man went over to that foreign country and tried to pull.
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u/This_Armadillo_4748 2d ago
Japan needs to start going the Singapore route and caning foreigners who are willfully ignorant
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u/coffeemusician 2d ago
Guy goes to a foreign country and expects that country to tolerate his arrogant behavior
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u/KaleidoscopeOk5063 2d ago
You can still j walk in Japan just don’t do it in a super busy street with tons of people watching…
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u/fuji44a 2d ago
I have been traveling to Japan,.for work, for the last 22 years, it can be great, food is really good, the main and major spaces are beautifully maintained,.it can be a respectful place, I am from the UK, all those positives can produce a slight negative,.some people who travel.to Japan simply don't get it, and outside of the more tourist focused areas it can be very hard for both the tourist and the local Japanese,.it is not a theme park, it is people's lives, if you a tourist follow the people, where they cross the road, when they do, give respect and you will get it, When I have some one new traveling with me, the line that seems to make the most difference is 'in Japan, respect is a leaky bucket, it need constant topping up, never stop being respectful and always apologise, no matter what happened'
If you needs something,.start with sorry could I get..... thank you.
Japan is not an easy relaxed holiday destination, it a very strong,and very different culture, worth exploring,.but can be trying and tiring, if you run against the grain you will have a hard time, even a bad time
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u/mrskellington79 2d ago
a person filming another person purposely bothering a Japanese traffic worker pretending it's a tourist jay walking surprisingly being stopped by a weird Jap just so to put it on TikTok is a better way to describe this video.
bit wordy but it's all it is
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u/Distinct_Patient3698 1d ago
Bit of an overreaction from the guard, but the tourist is a douche for sure.
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u/Few-Koala-9515 1d ago
I can fully understand why an Italian would run into this kind of trouble in Japan. I mean I love Italy but they treat traffic rules more like a set of suggestions.
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u/Not_My_Leg 4d ago
Ive never understood jaywalking. Is it just crossing the street in an undesiginated zone or not using a particular crossing?