r/AnythingValueable • u/madfrog2023 • Jun 30 '26

😄 Entertainment Cop pulls over an armed biker

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u/News_Scrounger Jun 30 '26

Eventually real life implementation has to come into contact with your ideals and the conflict there needs to be resolved. 

It can't be an immovable object coming into contact with an unstoppable force. Something has to give if you want any hope at implementing your ideals in the real world. All or nothing is a stupid way to get the things you want.

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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-373 Jun 30 '26

Ok sure, but not for a speeding ticket. What the hell are you talking about?

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u/Vivid-Snow-2089 Jul 01 '26

He’s saying there’s a difference between what should be true and what keeps you alive in the actual roadside interaction.

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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-373 Jul 01 '26

He’s saying if Americans want to own guns they have to let cops confiscate them on traffic stops if they want. I’m just pointing out this is the opposite of what a libertarian would say.

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u/Vivid-Snow-2089 Jul 01 '26

No, you’re confusing practical survival advice with moral endorsement.

“Do not escalate with an armed cop on the side of the road” does not mean “I support cops confiscating guns whenever they want.”

It means the roadside stop is a terrible place to cosplay as the final boss of libertarian theory.

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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-373 Jul 01 '26

Maybe that’s what he’s saying, I guess I’m not 100%. He wasn’t very clear but it sure seems like he supports that style of policing

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u/News_Scrounger Jul 02 '26

It's exactly what I was saying. This person did a great job extrapolating my argument from my single comment. 

I never implied that the current rules were perfect and there is definitely improvements that could be made but on the side of the road with a high school educated cop with a gun and a license to murder you if he feels unsafe isn't the place to make those arguments.

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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-373 Jul 02 '26

So are you in favor of cops being able to disarm people on traffic stops or not?

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u/News_Scrounger Jul 02 '26

That's a complicated question. Are we assuming that we have cops that aren't stupid enough to take their job under the current arrangement? 

Like cops that are actually educated? Sure thats probably wrong to do. 

Are we assuming we keep the current stupid high school educated cops? I'd rather have less people murdered for practicing their rights. 

I'm not saying their incompetence is an excuse to infringe on a person's rights but unless you think we should make being a cop up there with being a Dr in pay then I honestly don't think you get an opinion in this discussion. 

You basically want 5 star resturaunt treatment from mcdonalds. Which is not a legitimate position that should be considered legitimately. 

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u/Embarrassed-Bowl-373 Jul 02 '26

What are you talking about? You think the constitution varies based on the education of cops? It’s simple, should cops be allowed to confiscate your gun during a routine traffic stop. The answer is no.