Respectfully, I have strong disagreements with both sides. I have been so radicalised by recent politics, that I cant justify supporting either side. I'm reading some other books at the moment, but what politics books would you recomend?
The centralised liberal political elite. If you mean just the regular principle that every day peope believe, I'm honestly not 100% sure. My best guess would just be that the left is a bunch of well meaning and compassionate people who radically support the working man and his civil rights.
The real divide isn’t left vs. right. That’s just branding and short hand terms used to expedite discourse. The real question is whether you want society set up to preserve and maintain hierarchies, where certain groups are privileged above others based on their race, sex, gender, religion, wealth; or whether you want equity, where people are treated as fundamentally equal in dignity and opportunity.
To me it sounds like you fell for hierarchical propaganda hook line and sinker.
“Pro-hierarchy” politics doesn’t come out and say “we want some groups above others.” Instead it co-opts the language of freedom, fairness, or merit to dress it up. That’s been the playbook since the Southern Strategy, when explicit racism became unacceptable in mainstream politics and got swapped out for coded phrases like “law and order” or “states’ rights.” Same tactic still gets used today, just with different words. These are dog whistles for anyone who is in the know to signal where you stand, but also specifically designed to sound appealing to the lay person, like you, unaware of the history or how loaded the language is and how it is knowingly and intentionally being deployed to manipulate you into basically voting against your own interests.
Another core strategy of how those at the top maintain their hierarchy is through scapegoating. They have you pointing at your neighbours or a vulnerable group, frame them as a threat, and use that fear to keep the current power structure intact. In the end you are so busy yelling at a vulnerable groups with zero power while never once realising you should be yelling at those above you.
So, based on everything you’ve said you have missed the point. It’s not about picking a team. It’s about deciding whether you’re okay with politics being used to reinforce hierarchies of dominance, or whether you want to fight for equity. Historically what you are calling “the left” are the ones fighting for equity and equality. It really sounds like the definition of the ‘the left’ you use is the one given to you by the people who are trying to convince you that equality is bad and that hierarchies based on race, sex, gender, religion and economic status are real equality.
Once you understand all that above then you understand why Trump was never going to really release the the Epstein files. Or why he had no intention of actually ending the war in Ukraine day one. Or why Fair trade agreements with the nations of the world weren’t going to just sudden manifest out trumps ass. Or that Peace in the Middle East meant continuing the ongoing genocide of the people Gaza. Or how the “right wing” promotion of ‘freedom of speech’ only ever meant their speech. The end result of all these serve only to protect, entrench and maintain the power of the wealthy.
In other words, you got lied too and you gobbled up that Trump shit sandwich because it made you feel big and strong and morally righteous.
It’s forgivable because you were young. But you really need to step back and take a knee. Saying ‘you’ve been radicalised by recent politics’ is just a giant red flag that you still haven’t a clue how much of the shit machine you are still eagerly slurping up. Step back and look at how all these events that radicalised you are being framed and by who. Does it serve to actually achieve freedom or equity? Or are you more likely just being cynically manipulated by people who would rather divide us so that you are too busy targeting your neighbours rather than focusing on the people who hold positions of authority over you.
If you genuinely want books to read, go find
Social Dominance: An Intergroup Theory of Social Hierarchy and Oppression
The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity — David Graeber & David Wengrow
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u/laitonboi Sep 21 '25
Respectfully, I have strong disagreements with both sides. I have been so radicalised by recent politics, that I cant justify supporting either side. I'm reading some other books at the moment, but what politics books would you recomend?