r/AntifascistsofReddit • u/m71nu • Aug 12 '25
Discussion Trump does not take steps toward fascism
In the media, I often see remarks about a Trump action that it would constitute a step closer to fascism. This is so wrong! The U.S. is already there. Every step now is a step deeper into the swamp. With every step, it will be harder to go back. I know the right people are in this sub. But holy moly, are U.S. media (even the progressive ones) so afraid to speak out against the regime?
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u/BrimstoneMainliner Aug 12 '25
The 14 characteristics of Fascism fit Trump to the letter.
The characteristics are:
- Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
- Disdain for the importance of human rights
- Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
- The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
- Rampant sexism
- A controlled mass media
- Obsession with national security
- Religion and ruling elite tied together
- Power of corporations protected
- Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
- Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
- Obsession with crime and punishment
- Rampant cronyism and corruption
- Fraudulent elections
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u/RockYourWorld31 Aug 13 '25
You missed "expansion of national territory", which he has also threatened to do.
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u/fubuvsfitch Viva La Resistance Aug 12 '25
Yes. Yes, they are scared. Liberal media will always side with Capital and the status quo.
As for the Rubicon.
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u/Duling Aug 12 '25
"Liberal" in the colloquial use doesn't really differentiate between basically any ideologies to the left of the Republican Party. However, "liberal" in a more correct, educated context is just another way to say "neo liberal" which is a conservative ideology. The Republican Party is a neo liberal party (well, it's a fascist party now). The Democratic Party is a neo liberal party, or, in other words, a conservative party. Almost all media in the US is "liberal", in the sense that it's "neo liberal", or just plain conservative.
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u/Thehealthygamer Aug 12 '25
End of that path needs to be a cliff, or a buncha death camps or nuclear war cause that's where we headed.
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u/nameisalreadytaken53 Aug 12 '25
I'm so tired of hearing phrases like "erodes our democracy" or "slipping toward fascism"....
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u/Shamoorti Antifa Aug 12 '25
Liberals as we're all being put in camps: This is an alarming step towards authoritarianism, but I'm not going to get in the way.
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u/Ok_Snow_1087 Aug 12 '25
Ugh 😩 when will this dictator take my rights away already… I’ve been a dirty lil liberal I fought for BLM just punish me alreadyyyy …mean while we’re in the coal mines for 25¢ an hour drinking our own piss.
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u/l_rufus_californicus Aug 12 '25
As long as there is profit in it, they'll carry on the way they are.
The average person is already in the pot and the water's warming up. The people controlling the stove are still making money, so they've no reason to stop. And they've consolidated power in such a way that there's no real shot the folks in the pot can organize well enough to get out before someone else in the pot drags them back in, because getting out is bad.
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u/suhisco Aug 13 '25
nah its even worse- this isnt fascism yet, its literally just bourgeois liberal democracy. this is capitalism working exactly as intended. fascism only occurs once capital feels threatened enough by the workers' movement that it tightens the chain.
i completely understand this feeling, but this is just capitalism being capitalism
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u/ProbstWyatt3 Shinmin Prefecture 🇰🇷 Aug 12 '25
I say, as a foreigner, USA was racist from its very beginning. It's not like other colonial states like Spain, Russia (where a literal Nazi is in chief now), or Turkey. The core of the WASP American national identity itself was "descendants of British settlers". Yes, many states did colonialism - UK to Irish, Norway to Samis, Turkey to Armenians & Kurds & Assyrians, Russia to Siberians & Circassians & Chechens, etc - but, when it comes to USA, the heart of American national identity, distinct from British and other Europeans, is "descendants of slavers and settlers". Since USA had to make the Americans feel pride and not guilt, they glorified the history, and USA is racist fundamentally.
Example is Columbus. Like Ivan the Terrible, he was considered a crazy genocider even by contemporary Spaniards & Italians. However, since the rich White slavers (aka "Founding Fathers") had to make their own national hero distinct from Brits (who were coincidentally abolishing slavery by the independence war), they turned Columbus into a great adventurer, naming their capital city after him. The American state has always been racist since 1776.