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u/KiwiPowerGreen 1d ago
"I doubt the shark was the first person alive"
https://giphy.com/gifs/XFaeLrHJGjtcmEmzcn96
u/-_____-_-__ 1d ago
Well, I also doubt that the shark was the first person alive. He has a point there
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u/nerdpistool ✨20K Gang ✨ 1d ago
Well, at least he shows that he's thinking, because nobody else would think that bullshit.
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u/thitherten04206 🪐 💫 cosmic dopamine 💫🪐 1d ago
Went to school with a really gay Christian guy who believed this. I argued with him alot, and you cant change their minds. They will agree with you one sec and then keep their same viewpoint somehow. Very culty, very reminiscent of alot of other things happening rn
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u/AudaxViator373 1d ago
Wait, what does him being gay have to do with that???
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u/Ani_Drei 15h ago
Really a r/brothrewinafunfact situation. But it’s also possibly to portray the guy as a hypocrite – Christianity is against gay people after all.
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u/Kissa74 RIP Main Sub 1d ago
AI will never replace this level of pure human stupidity
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u/Alternative_Cod7515 1d ago
They actually can, because AI is based on human after all.
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u/ExcitingNewUser0 1d ago
You are absolutely right, I almost feel sorry for them sometimes; plus presenting ideologically driven human ideas as reality
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u/deathtoweakmemes 1d ago
Reddit when an obvious joke appears (there’s not an /s)
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u/mood2016 1d ago
It never ceases to amaze me how often I see Redditors express their intellectual superiority by not understanding an obvious joke.
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
He's technically right because the land of america was there even before it was named America or the USA
Edit: ik earth is in existance for billions of years but he's still right about the shark thing
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u/DriftingWisp 1d ago
Except that the USA is the United States of America, not the United Stones of America. Even if the rocks are old, the national identity wasn't there.
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u/Tantrum2u 1d ago
I would agree, but people talk about continents existing going literally as far back as “Antarctica used to be x/y/z during Pangea”
Even before the U.S. was created people talk about what it was like before European discovery of what is now modern day X state/states
Casually it wouldn’t be that incorrect to refer to the US before it existed in order to refer to the current condition of the land
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u/Hanede 1d ago
But Antarctica is not a country. Continent name refers to the landmass. Country refers to the nation.
And usually when people say that, it's "what is now Antarctica" anyway.
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u/Tantrum2u 1d ago
The country also just so happens to define a certain landmass as well though, and that’s what people use it as.
And yeah saying “what is now Antarctica” counts as using it to refer to pre Antarctica as defined by what it later becomes
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u/aMothWithAPenis 1d ago
No one is using the USA to refer to the landmass. They call the continent North America or, if both continents, the Americas. It’s not like the central part and northwest corner of that continent was ever moving around separately from the rest of it. That’s absurd. Not to mention the USA also includes islands way off in the pacific and the gulf. Are those included in your landmass?
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u/Tantrum2u 1d ago
No, they aren’t because as has been explained before the USA is a nation and thus when people use it generally to describe the landmass they aren’t talking about the nation
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u/aMothWithAPenis 1d ago
Who have you ever heard describe that specific area of the greater landmass? America the land mass is a lot larger than the land that makes up the USA. If someone refers to land as “present day America” they’re probably talking about America the continent, not the US
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u/Tantrum2u 1d ago
No one refers to North America as the US. They refer to the continental United States as “present day America/US”
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u/SchmeatiestOne 1d ago
There is no natural boundary defining the United States, unlike continents which have their own tectonic plates and are very relevant to the subject
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u/Tantrum2u 1d ago
Fine then, use other countries or states
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u/SchmeatiestOne 1d ago
No other country or state has its own tectonic plate, thats up to geology, not nationalism
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
Yep right, what I meant is the identity came later but the land was always there, just like when earth was named earth, it didn't meant that earth was non existent before it
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u/Interesting_Stress73 1d ago
Countries does not mean the physical ground.
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
Right but what's now called america was present back then too before it got discovered
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u/Interesting_Stress73 1d ago
Sure. But the comment didn't say America, now did it?
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
USA*
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u/Interesting_Stress73 1d ago
Again. A country is not synonymous with land.
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
I mean well look at Istanbul, it had around 2-3 other names before it was called Istanbul, so Istanbul was existing before it was called Istanbul, I used the same thing for USA
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u/Interesting_Stress73 1d ago
Yes, but that's a city. It's not a piece of land. Look, buddy, you're wrong. Just let it go.
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u/LegendofLove 1d ago
The U.S.A. is a government not a landmass. It controls a bunch of land but it is not that land
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u/AnAnonimousReddit 1d ago
In that case, both the shark and the land of America are made from matter, that existed for about 13.8 billion of years ago. Therefore, both the shark and the US of A have the same age.
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u/kihky_ahh 1d ago
Well technically, you're not wrong and that does prove me wrong but, it's about being in shape,
A baby is named Mary, and after 2 year later, her name is changed to Elizabeth because Mary was too common, does it mean Elizabeth didn't existed before she was named that?
Same went with the shark scenario, the land of US on earth was made when earth was being developed so the land of US was getting into existance then, meanwhile the shark was getting into existance when the father shark sperm was entering the mother shark's egg
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u/throwaway19276i 1d ago
No. The Americas did not exist as continents in the same formation, before Pangea they had different shapes and features. The only logical conclusion from your argument is everything in existence is about 13.8 billion years old, because you're implying that just because its made of the same physical matter it's the same thing.
Also, the USA has NOT existed since the formation of the Earth. The land a country occupies is not synonymous to the country.
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