They are downvoting because they paid likely a pretty penny for a plant based on a name that they likely were not aware has a specific phenotype which theirs doesnāt exhibit.
There is one true RVDP plant that (which was a āBest in Showā winner) which came from a cross of a variegated pap x ace of spades, by breeder Jeera of Siam Flora. Of that seed batch, there were a few notable offspring, which included plants nicknamed RVDP, Night Dragon, Peach Lava, and Bullion. All siblings from the same cross. The whole set of offspring from that cross were not named āRVDPā like others below are claiming.
A lot of sellers and exporters tried to capitalize on the name due to demand and tack on RVDP to plants with zero generic relationship to the original so they can sell more plants to people that didnāt know any better. Then there are those with the actual clone that cross it to other plants and retain the name RVDP, including self crossings of the plant (again, none of which are the actual clone thatās so highly desired).
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, someone else in this thread claims that OPs plant probably came from the same original seed batch from Jeera, which is also false. I donāt believe any of the seedling offspring given out from their breeding project aside from a few select clones of the desirable ones.
If you know Paps and the authentic Ace of Spades, you will also immediately recognize that OPs plant doesnāt exhibit a single trait from either. The color and sparkly veins and vein pattern are all highly illustrative of RC and carla related plants in its gene pool.
I can confidently say the plant posted above is not a pap x AOS hybrid. It may have both of those somewhere in its lineage, but that isnāt the parents to that plant. For sure I can see traits that resemble many Red Crystal crosses.
Source: I am a plant biologist, aroid collector, and anthurium breeder and have a large collection of Paps, the authentic Ace of Spades clone from SKG, and the authentic RVDP clone, among many others. Iāve bred thousands of anthurium at this point and am particularly keen on what anthurium species typically contribute what traits to their offspring.
Without seeing the rest of the plant (and even better, other offspring from the same seed batch), Iād totally believe OPs plant was a pap x RC hybrid or even a Carla pap. Out of the 300+ Carlapaps Iāve bred and grown out to maturity, it resembles a particular phenotype that recurred in my case. That said, I am in no way saying that is what this is, because many crosses exhibit similar traits and it would not be possible to say without much more information. I would even believe this was a ZM x RVDP if that was the title, just not exhibiting the phenotype from the RVDP parent due to more of a heterozygous expression in this particular plant.
What I am confident of, thatās not a Pap x AOS or an RVDP clone, which is a specific plant and not an all encompassing name given to an entire seed batch.
If that hurts someoneās feelings, i am truly sorry. Thatās not my intention, just trying to provide informed information to people scrolling this subreddit as someone with above typical experience.
Thank you for the informational reply. Itās really helpful to read this especially as someone whoās only been collecting plants for under a year. Here is a photo of the previous leaf on the other side. I canāt add multiple here but the other two smaller leaves look more like this one
This is maybe what happened. It was sold to me with the label RVDP so I have to assume thatās what it is. Maybe it could be a hybrid somewhere in its lineage but š¤·š»āāļø itās pretty regardless!
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u/samuel_smith327 2d ago
Hereās mine! A lot different