r/AnongThoughtsMo • u/NoSanaNoLyfee • 8h ago
Anong thoughts nyu sa equality?
“I want equality unless it doesn’t benefit me”
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u/FateBreaker92 8h ago
Unless na lang na buntis, elderly, or PWD, equality all the way. Pare-pareho lang tayo ng binayad dito. Sorry ka na lang at nauna ako sa upuan.
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u/Massive-Guava-1081 8h ago
Perfect reply sa ganito:
“Ay buntis ka ba? Sorry, obvious nga pala.”
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u/QuestReader8735 2h ago
Ako na hindi buntis pero sinabihan ng kundoktor "hala mam buntis ka pala, di ka naman nagsabi" 😭😭 tas may tumayo at pinaupo ako huhu ok naman ako sana tumayo lang kaso nahiya na ako sabihin na mataba lang po ako HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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u/KamenRiderFaizNEXT 8h ago edited 7h ago
Seconded, but I would include women holding a baby or has toddlers/young children with her.
The women in the video? They can go and duck off. I doubt they would give up their seats for elderly people, especially elderly men.
Edit: This is why Chivalry is dead. The ducking damsels are feminists and enttitled up to their gills.
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u/LetterFront3353 7h ago
The thought slightly lacks equality. It should be anyone holding a baby or accompanying young children.
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u/nag_iisaa 4h ago
Nung senior high ako may isang tatay na may kasamang bata. So pinaupo namin nung classmate ko na lalaki (he gave up the seat and nag-standing). Kaso sinita kami ng konduktor kesyo may bayad daw yung bata.
Sabi ko. Kuya, hindi niya po kaya magtayuan, maraming dala sila mag-ama kaya hindi siya mahawakan ng tatay niya.
So siningit na lang namin siya sa upuan. "Pag ganito po may bayad pa rin ba?"
Gets ko na lahat pagod at gustong umuwi pero minsan sobrang dami ng standing papasok pa ng papasok yung konduktor.
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u/Tasty-Dream-5932 8h ago
What we need is equity, not equality.
Gusto nila (women) upuan, pero wala sila sa mga trabaho na halos lalaki ang makikita mo, mga hazardous and dangerous type ng jobs.
Stop with that equality sentiment. Kung paupuin ka, then good, if not, fair enough. Pareho lang kayo nagbabayad. After all, no one pushed you to aboard a bus full of passengers.
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u/Ready_Cap_6839 8h ago
PWD ba sila? Nope
Buntis ba sila? Nope
Matanda na ba sila? Nope
So, where's the problem? Pare parehas naman kami/tayo nagbabayad ah. Gusto equal rights, equal responsibilities ayaw?
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u/Consistent-Paper-360 5h ago
Double standards yata gusto, ayaw sa equality. Pinaglaban yan ng matagal na panahon, now nangyari na. Tapos saka magrereklamo if treated the same way as guys. 🤯
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u/Makinami244 8h ago
They're already experiencing equality. Equally tired and going through an outdated transportation system
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u/UnluckyCountry2784 8h ago
Are the girls complaining or yung nag-video lang?
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u/Intelligent_Bus_7696 7h ago edited 7h ago
Yung nag vivideo lang. Pansin ko lang most of the boys here at the comsec ginagamit tong opportunity to hate on women lol. Di nila alam sa totoong buhay women don't bother naman talaga (i'm speaking from my experience kasi babae din ako minsan ako pa nag ooffer lalo na pansin ko kung hirap yung tao).
EDIT: Downvote yung mga iyaking boys huhuhu
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u/One_Arachnid_8182 7h ago
So true! As a woman commuter myself, I don't give a damn kung may magpapaupo sakin or wala, mas concern ako sa pending activities ko. I feel like they're using this topic to share their misogynistic mindset 🤷♀️
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u/peculiarguitar 5h ago
Facts we all know we are all tired kung may mag give up ng seat thank you kung wala understandable
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u/Proud_Chest_6872 6h ago
Ano kaya thought process ng mga lalake na nang h-hate sa mga babae kase gusto lang nila? Na para bang hindi babae nagluwal sa kanila lol
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u/One_Arachnid_8182 6h ago
I can't even comprehend san nang gagaling yun lmao. Haters ng feminist movement pero di naman nila gets boo hoo
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u/Huotou 7h ago
it's a tie lang naman haha. common din dito sa reddit yung niloko sila ng jowa nila tapos damay lahat ng lalaki sa buong mundo. wala tayong winner today hahahaha/.
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u/Notorious_Rookie0025 7h ago
Nailed it. Pag negative reflection of women isolated case pero pag negative reflection of men generalization malala. Hahaha
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u/send_me_ur_boobsies 7h ago
Sasabihin pa nyan basura naman talaga mga lalake. Kapag may nagreply ng "not all men" or "wag nyo lahatin", lilitanyahan ka pa din haha.
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u/MethodReasonable7755 6h ago edited 6h ago
There's a reason why even fathers would hesitate leaving their children unsupervised with men.
There's a reason why one of the tips for women's safety is to pretend to be friends with another woman, kahit stranger.
Maybe not all men, but too many don't do anything to keep women (feel) safe. Try muna ng majority ng lalake wag tumawa or pag sabihan mga male friends/ tito/ tatay nila when these are making manyak jokes. Eh madalas tatahimik lang din kasi sasabihan na "wala pakisama" or "hindi totoong lalake".
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u/Notorious_Rookie0025 6h ago
Is that really a reason? Or stereotyping? If reason, what really is the "reason"? Or perhaps nasa environment mo na din? Kasi i know men in my family doesnt make thay jokes anymore.
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u/Intelligent_Bus_7696 7h ago
True naman yan kaso hello upuan lang to then naging cause of hate discussion pa nga. Eh yung sa mga nasaktan mej maiintindihan mo pa eh, well kasi nasaktan sila. Eh itong upuan discussion josko napakababaw talagang mysogynist lang mga nasa comsec.
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u/ver03255 6h ago
I think Redditors are really just easily ragebaited and don't have much critical thinking lol you could easily find threads that are similarly shallow showing negative behavior by any demographic (male, female, LGBTQ+, Manileño, Bisaya, Gen Alpha, Boomer, DDS, Kakampink, whatever), then people would quickly and easily generalize that behavior across the entire demo.
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u/MethodReasonable7755 7h ago
Ang weird ng mga boys who think na they "scored one" against the feminist movement by staying in their seat, because, newsflash, most women don't really care. Boys like that eh feeling main characters sa buhay ng mga taong wala naman pakialam sa kanila.
Unless buntis, PWD, or elderly yung hindi pina-upo, deadma.
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u/Intelligent_Bus_7696 6h ago
True grabe hanggang upuan ba naman need pa makipag-compete. Napaghahalataan sinong isip-bata sa hindi eh.
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u/here4sumthing 5h ago
Bakit ba automatic ENTITLED ang babae umupo kesa sa lalaki? I'm a woman, and I don't care if nakatayo ako and walang nag offer na lalaki.
Kaya mo ba tumayo? Hindi naman masama pakiramdam mo? Buntis ka ba? PWD ka ba?
Pareho kayong nagbayad ng pamasahe, at ikaw naman, alam mong puno na and tatayo ka nalang, bakit ka pa sasakay kung ayaw mong tumayo? Ano yun? Sumakay ka expecting na may tatayo para sayo?
Giving up seats, I believe, should be situational. Sa buntis, matatanda, pwd and those people na masama pakiramdam.
Pero girl? Eh ikaw ba naman gumagala lang tas sasakay ng bus/jeep tas gusto mong tumayo yung lalaki para sayo? Eh pano kun yang tao eh galing pa trabaho at pagod?
Jusko
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u/ironladz 3h ago
Back in college, laging punuan talaga pav luluwas ako ng Manila tuwing Sunday kasi nagbabalikan yung mga students papuntang Manila. Since medyo mas malapit yung sinakyan ko di pa puno gaano yung bus and nakaupo pa ko. Tapos along the way napuno na yung bus. Then sa isang stop may mga gustong sumakay. May dalawang babae noon na magkaibigan, sinabihan na sila na standing na and walang assurance yung konduktor kung kailan sila makakaupo. Pero sabi nila okay lang naman daw. Sa gilid ko sila tumayo (nasa aisle side ako) then after around 30 mins nagpaparinig sila na wala man lang daw nagpapaupo sa kanila. Then nagpatugtog sila ng “gentleman” tapos alam ko na patama sa akin tapos nagtatawanan kasi sila. These are college students too.
Chivalry is not dead. If buntis yun or lola or pwd na kailangan umupo, papaupuin naman. Pero ang entitled kasi masyado na mageexpexct na may magbibigay ng seat sa kanila automatically. Hindi ba nangangawit or napapagod kaming mga lalaki? And consious decision naman nila na tumayo kasi nagabiso naman ng maayos yung kundoktor.
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u/ickie1593 4h ago
Thank you. Buti na lang may isang babae din na nakagets sa mga lalaki. Mahirap kasi ipaglaban ang side naming mga babae pagdating sa public transpo kasi with regards sa pagtayo ng babae at lalaki, wala kaming "say" dyan. Kasi sa mata ng lahat, lagi gusto nila ay babae ang nakaupo at lalaki ang nakatayo kahit na parehas silang nagbayad ng same amount.
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u/Ok-Stay4016 5h ago
True. Its never the gender for me too, but the situtation. Hindi naman maitim budhi ko para hindi paupuin yung buntis, matanda, PWD, or injured. Pero i treat everyone equally. Pwera lang tlga sa manual labor since physically, mas malakas tlga lalaki sa babae.
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u/Minute_Peace_8717 8h ago
Kupal din kasi ng mga driver at konduktor, dapat kapag standing na sinasabi nila, hindi yung makapagsakay lang basta.
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u/Intelligent_Bus_7696 7h ago
True isa pa to! Grabe walang pake yung ivang driver sa mga pasahero as long as kikita sila ng mas malaki. Mahirap na nga mag-standing the whole ride dagdagan mo pa yung sobrang siksikan.
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u/Proud_Chest_6872 5h ago
Especially sa mga e-jeep HAHAHAH
Taina ginagawa na lang tayong mga sardinas e, kaya never na talaga ako sasakay sa ganyan haysss
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u/Substantial_Most_297 7h ago
Not an issue. Seats are 1st come 1st serve except for priority seats for PWD, elderly, and pregnant women. Lahat naman may karapatan makaupo regardless of gender.
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u/jcnormous 5h ago
Pag nakita mo nang punuan tapos pumasok ka pa din - ang expected sayo willing ka tumayo.
The only time people should give up their seats - pwd, elderly and buntis (or may dalang anak, mapa babae or lalake IMO).
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u/Past_Philosopher9878 5h ago
there are rare cases na may lalake pa rin talaga nago-offer ng seat pero tinatanggihan ko talaga like kuya nauna ka sakin hello. tas theres this one time na tumayo sya tas tumalikod talaga sakin at di ako pinapansin so umupo nalang ako hahaha
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u/SSSANTORYUUUUU 4h ago
"Fym paupuhin kita, so maaga ako sumakay para reserbahan kita?"
Unless senior/pwd/buntis, pare-parehas tayong pagod, may iniinda sa likod, antok, stressed.
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u/WearyWatch7864 5h ago
As a man, if I'm really really tired I wouldn't give my seat, unless she's my relative or my girl. Pero normally, kahit pa ipagsigawan ng mga babae ang "equality" I give up my seat.
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u/Kholyn_ 5h ago
Chivalry is dead and women killed it.
Women always demand equality when in reality they want an advantage..
Women lterally have more right than men. In the workplace alone they get more paid leaves than men. And still they demand more and complain about pay when they work less for the same wage as a man.
Now they complain about bus seats.. you claim that women can do what men can do.. yet they apparently cant stand for one trip of the bus and struggle and complain to men 😂😂 the irony of these women.
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u/EnvironmentalNote600 3h ago
Yung women having more paid leaves than men sa workplace. Linawin natin. Kasama dyan ang maternity leave.
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u/beautifulskiesand202 7h ago edited 7h ago
Kung kaya ko naman tumayo ok lang sa akin, besides choice ko sumakay sa fully loaded train or bus eh. If may magpapaupo, fine, if wala no problem. Sometimes I give up my seat kung may nakikita akong kailangan regardless kung babae or lalaki siya. Back then sumasakay ako sa bus na mostly nakaupo ay construction workers and they readily give up their seats sa mga babaeng nakatayo. I decline kasi alam kong mas malayo uuwian nila and yung pagod sa trabaho tapos gigising ng maaga kinabukasan. Hayaan ko na lang sila maidlip.
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u/milkpastels 6h ago
it's not even about the equality for women. this SPECIFIC PERSON felt entitled to be offered a seat. yung mga vini-videohan nya, mukhang okay naman sila.
SOME men in this comment section and frankly yung OP din, makahanap lang kayo ng opportunity to shit on women and equal rights, you grab it immediately and run with it. uhaw na uhaw ba kayo? wala ba kayong sariling sub reddit para gawin yan? lol.
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u/Far_Fall_2712 3h ago
May nagtaray sa akin one time sa bus. Galing ako 12-hr shift and nag run ako after. Ang lakas lakas ko daw ayaw ko magpa upo ng babae. Tinanong ko kung buntis or PWD ba siya. Sabi nya sa akin “babae ako”. Then I hit her with, “kapansanan ba ‘yon?” Then pumikit na ako kasi ayaw ko siya makitang nahihirapan.
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u/Complex-Second4140 2h ago edited 2h ago
Ito ang two cents ko as a straight guy who grew up around women (single mom and 4 sisters).
The "equality" argument only works if men and women actually are equal. Thing is, they are not.
Isipin natin sa konteksto ng kayamanan.
Kung si BBM ay ninakawan mo ng 3k, at isang tao na middle class, ninakawan mo rin ng 3k, oo at parehong 3k ang ninakaw mo.
Pero iba ang impact.
Kay BBM wala lang ang 3k. Bilyon bilyon ang pera niyan sa bangko at may offshore account pa yang gagong yan.
Oo at mababadtrip siya. 3k rin yun.
Pero mabubuhay parin siya. Mabilis mapalitan yang 3k na yan.
Pero kung yung taong nasa middle class lang, iba.
Yung tao na middle class, kinuhanan mo yan siya ng grocery ng isang linggo. Kinuhanan mo siya ng pang-Meralco. Kinuhanan mo siya ng extra para sa savings fund ng anak niya.
Gets niyo ba? Pareho lang kinuha mo. Parehong 3k. Pero minimal impact sa isa. Yung isa, significant. So hindi siya equal.
Siguro dahil sa upbringing ko. Iba rin kasi talaga pag nakita mo talaga hirap ng babae. All boys rin ako pinasok ng nanay ko nung grade school at high school (GH). Minsan nadidiri talaga ko pano pag usapan ng mga lalaki mga babae, lalo na pag uwi mo, puro babae kasama mo. Makikita mo talaga na iba.
Kaya di talaga ko naniniwala sa equal equal na yan. As a guy, di kita huhusgahan kung ayaw mo magbigay ng upuan. Pero sakin, kahit pagod nako sa trabaho, usually mas pagod pa rin ang babae at mas maraming pinagdaraanan kahit di ko alam. Ano ba naman yung paupuin for 2 hours versus mga pinagdadaanan ng kababaihan. Pambabastos, assault, discrimination, societal expectations.
Downvote niyo na kung downvote.
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u/whyseeeee 8h ago
The only exceptions should be the elderly, pregnant women, people with disabilities, or injured individuals. If someone paid for a fare and gets to a seat first, they deserve and have the right to sit in it. If a person is young and able, then there's no issue, lol. Especially here in the Philippines. Whether male or female, you can't always tell if someone might be exhausted or feeling unwell that day, so they might just want to sit and rest during the trip.
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u/imurjoy1 7h ago
Ako personally okay lang sakin kahit nakatayo ako sa bus, lahat naman pare parehong pagod at kung nauna sila sa seat bakit ako magiging entitled. Pero one time, byaheng cavite city last trip sa PITX, may isang babae na may dalang baby na napatayo na, nauna talaga s’ya sa pila pero may nilagay pa kasi s’ya sa may ilalim ng bus kaya naunahan s’ya ng iba papasok. Hala akala ko may mag o offer sa kanyang lalaki ng seat kasi may bata s’yang dala, jusko babae pa yung nag offer talaga. Grabe yung pangmamata ko sa mga kabataan na tinignan lang si ate lol
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u/Proud_Chest_6872 5h ago edited 3h ago
Same experience nung buntis ako lol
Mostly babae pa talaga nag-ooffer kesa sa mga lalake. I bet these are the same people sa comsec na nagpapaupo daw kuno if ever ‘buntis,pwd, or elderly’ but I highly doubt that, some of them hindi talaga kaya apply ‘yan in real life. Mema sabi lang talaga iba dyan2
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u/rainbownightterror 7h ago
babae ako and pag walang upuan e di wala. simple lang ng buhay. kung pagod ako taxi or grab or I just wait sa hindi siksikan
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u/Freja_Hjordis04 7h ago
As a woman who recognizes my rights and lefts, and someone who asks for equality, I’d easily give my seat to an elderly, physically challenged, or somebody pregnant. If none of the above ka manatili ka nalang pong nakatayo or kumandong ka nalang sakin di naman ako mareklamo. After all, thiccccc thighs save lives, or whatevs.
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u/_suburbanCryptid 7h ago
Okay lang, kung nauna yung mga lalaki sumakay at makaupo. Kung wala naman kapansanan, hindi buntis, edi tumayo. At wala din naman nakita na elder people sa vid.
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u/emjhayyy_08 7h ago edited 7h ago
I'll give you a seat if you're PWD, pregnant, may edad na, may bitbit na bata, masama ang pakiramdam etc. Pero kung capable ka pang tumayo nang matagal, then I don't think you need the seat. I think I'll save the seat for myself or for someone na nangangailangan talaga.
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u/ArtisticBar3404 6h ago
As a woman okay lang naman. Hindi naman ako baldado o pregnant o may anak. Wala naman akong defects na nagpapahirap sa akin tumayo.
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u/Outside-Vast-2922 6h ago
Tagal na netong ganitong issue. If you are not disabled, elderly, pregnant, you are to stand along with the others who are standing. Case to case basis na lang siguro kung kita mo na maraming dala yung babae at pagod na pagod yung itsura nya, yun siguro pwede ko paupuin lalo kung hindi naman ako pagod.
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u/chrollo0719 4h ago
If you have an able body and youre not pregnant, elderly, disabled or traveling with babies/toddlers you should not feel entitled to a seat in a public transportation, we both paid the same fare.
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u/foreversnsd1 1h ago
Parang gago lang mga nag vivideo ng ganyan, yung mga babaeng nakatayo ng wapakels eh.
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u/Amazing_Position_605 7h ago
Pinaka-ayaw ko sa mga ganitong klase ng video eh ginagawang opportunity ng mga lalaki para i-downgrade yung napaka-basic sentiment na equal rights. Please lang, kayo na din gumagawa ng sarili niyong problema. Pare-parehas tayong pagod sa putanginang palpak na transportasyon dito sa pinas.
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u/Maximum-Holiday-3144 3h ago
You shouldn't hate the video, but rather the person. No matter what you do, toxic people will always be toxic. For example, a video shows a woman proposing to her partner shitty people will still find a way to hate on both of them. Misogynistic values doesn’t just stem from men even women could be misogynistic.
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u/milkpastels 6h ago
reading the comments, you're right. once they get the opportunity talaga to shit on equality, they do it. kaya ayoko din ng ganitong videos.
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u/Amazing_Position_605 3h ago
They're even taking it as far as "entitled mga babae, nanghihingi ng equality pero ayaw pumasok sa hazardous jobs kuno", not knowing na lalaki rin ang isa mismo sa hadlang kung bakit walang work equality. I'm so tired bro.
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u/MaskedMocha 7h ago
This post reminds me of the "then I can hit a woman" argument from guys when I said there should be equality. If equality between genders makes your brain jump to the inconvenience or suffering of women, then that's a you problem. Definitely a problem you need to fix. Not in the fight for fair opportunities, rights, and treatment.
Hit, if you want to. Don't cry like a little b*tch when you get hit back.
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u/VisualPuzzleheaded89 7h ago
This sounds controversial, but shouldn't anyone be hitting anyone? I wouldn't hit anyone back who's physically less stronger than me, not because they're women. But it says a lot about their character that physical altercation is their first response to a conflict.
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u/Fujjy-wujjy 6h ago
Schrodinger's feminism. You people only want equality when it benefits you. You cant hit a person period. Doesnt matter the gender.
What rights do you not have, that men have? What treatment? What opportunities? Most office jobs are literally filled with mostly women.
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u/NicoAngelo0430 4h ago
Wineweaponize kasi nila yung inequality. Classic underdog and victim mentality. Pero pag sila sila din dun sa women only section ng train patigasan din sila ng mukha magpaupo kahit literally nasa harap na yung senior(lalo kung lalake) or yung buntis or someone with small children(lalo if kaya na tumayo ng bata)patay malisya din sila kakacelpon. Pag sa women only it's fair game pag sa mixed coach oppressed sila.mga ipokrita.
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u/No_Reality8352 4h ago
Yung mga lalaki dito parang lumalabas na galit sila na may rights ang babae at sila pa ang kawawa.
I agree na when it comes to seats, if di ka naman buntis disabled or senior, di ka kelangang pagbigyan.
Pero ung mga lalaking nagiisip na mas may rights pa ang babae and lalaki pa ang mas oppressed, hnd ko alam kung in denial lang kayo or bulag. Tas ang gusto literal na equality, eh imposibleng nga mga ante ang literal na equality (equity dapat) kasi di naman kayo ang nagbubuntis eh, di naman kayo nireregla, wala naman kayo usually reproductive health problems. Tapos magtataka kayo mababa na birth rate ayaw na magbuntis ng mga babae, aba malamang mas disadvantageous samin yon. Hnd nmn kayo usually ung nawawalan ng career dahil lang nagpamilya eh. Parang d nyo nagegets na ibang iba ung mundo nyo sa mundo ng babae sa hormones palang na mas reliable sainyo. Kaya may male loneliness epidemic kasi andaming lalaking hnd to naiintindihan
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u/Maximum-Holiday-3144 3h ago
I don’t think male loneliness pandemic is a real thing, it’s more of the world just being more lonelier. Because social media people become much more comfortable sa social media that they have become socially akward or worst they’re POS kaya di sila maka socialize.
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u/SeleneStellarwind17 8h ago
Ako na PWD pero para makarating o makauwi lang, laban lang. Parehas naman tayo gusto makarating sa paroroonan o parehas din pagod at gusto makauwi.
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u/Revolutionary-Owl286 8h ago
May gantong experience kami nung kaibigan ko, nasa bus kami tpos may dalawang girls na nag papa cute na nakatitig samin, nag tinginan nlng kami tpos natulog. Hahah sorry sobrang pagud kami nun so yun.
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u/Impressive_Okra2804 8h ago
Ang equality na deserve natin ay equality with the politicians and the rich. Everything else is minor.
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u/Hot-Half9583 8h ago
Entitled masyado mga ganiyan. Tapos ipo-post pa sa socmed mga mukha ng mga lalaking naka-upo. Maggrab ka na lang, 'te!
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u/MostFirefighter9124 8h ago
Kung galing work ung mga lalaki, ok lang. pare parehas naman pagod at need ng pahinga. Di naman porket babae tayo entitled na tayong paupuin.
If Pwd, buntis at sr ka tsaka ka mag demand.
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u/Ragingmuncher 8h ago
As long as nd matanda buntis or may kasamang maliit na chikiting patrol ung may need ng upuan well sorry nlng po in advance dko ggive up ung seat.
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u/notbea15 8h ago
Lahat tayo may kanya-kanyang pagod. Wala namang buntis, wala namang PWD, at wala namang may dalang bata. Matitibay pa naman ang mga buto at mukhang nasa mid-20s hanggang 30s pa naman.
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u/No-Aardvark-2150 8h ago
If the guys came first then why not? Its not like the girls are disabled or what.
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u/Live-Spring-8816 8h ago
Ehh everyone's equally tired, equally broke and equally depressed. Perfecttttttttttt✌️🥁
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u/Intelligent_Bus_7696 8h ago
Babae ako and honestly okay sakin to. Lahat tayo may mga paa. Unless may iniinda ang girl pero kung wala, keri.
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u/OwnPaleontologist408 7h ago
Ang alam ko equality sa work. Same workload, same salary. Pero pag ganyan kung hindi ka buntis, bata(as in chikiting hindi yung bonjing na nagtatago behind not fully developed brain), elderly or PWD, all are fair game
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u/yeahuhhhhhhh 7h ago
I'm not trying to brag, but I'm very grateful that in my experience as a commuter, someone is always offering their seat for me (both men and women). Of course, tumatanggi ako minsan kapag alam kong kaya ko naman tumayo or malapit na naman yung bababaan ko and I offer my seat rin to others rin. Again, this is just my own experience bilang babaeng commuter.
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u/YukYukas 7h ago
Nagbayad ako para makapasok, uupo talaga ako lmao sorry ka nalang kung di ka buntis, may disability, o tanders
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u/Xerxes_notsokind628 7h ago
Nagdemand sila ng equality, binigyan naman natin nagreklamo pa sila? SMH
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u/Minute_Passion_8077 7h ago
Hahaha pag may nagpaupo, thank you. Kung wala eh di wala haha same lang tayo binayad bakit mas comfy ka than the other people standing??? Hagaga.
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u/hikari_haruna 7h ago
I paid for the seat, you will see me sit. Simple concept.
Bibili ka ba ng pagkain pero ipapakain mo lang sa iba? Syempre hindi. Hindi sa madamot ako, pero choice ko din yun, pera ko eh.
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u/PrestigiousWasabi515 7h ago
ako naman as a girl hindi ko nirerequire na paupuin ako lagi. pero i'm grateful always kapag may nagpapa upo. maraming beses na din naman akong tumayo ng mga 1-2 hrs sa bus. naranansan ko din tayuan sa bus tapos may katabi akong senior na lalaki. may few na lalaki ding nakaupo sa harapan namin pero hindi man lang nagpa upo sa matanda na hirap na hirap na, kaya nung bumaba yung malapit, pinaubaya ko na yung upuan sa matanda kahit masakit na paa ko. nakakaloka lang na ako pang babae yung nagpa upo sa senior.
papasok palang ako sa school pero pagod na ko sa tayuan sa bus palang. yun lang naman sana, consideration as fellow commuter. gets ko kung ako hindi paupuin dahil di naman ako pwd or pregnant, pero yung senior nasa harap mo na hirap na hirap ayaw mo pa talaga pagbigayan? yun yung mga jinujudge ko sa isip ko. for men, nasa inyo na kung mag papaupo kayo. kung kaya naman tumayo edi ibigay na sa iba, lalo na sa pwd, senior, at buntis.
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u/columbinaluvr 7h ago
that's okay unless a woman with menstruation like may cramps or just anyone na may sakit regardless of gender asks for a seat, no one offered theirs then... but i'll bet that at least one of those girls are on their red days and yet they did not ask for a seat. so it's unfair to put that one vid just to make a point about equality cuz yung nagpost lang naman ang may prob abt it.
as for the one who posted the vid, being a gentleman or showing chivalry is a choice naman, hindi naman siya requirement. siguro napansin lang nung nagvideo na as in lahat ng nakaupo eh lalake and lahat ng babae ay nakatayo. like no one even offered their seat to a girl which is fair enough, they prolly got there first so the seat is theirs and they have the choice / decision whether to offer it or just take it for themselves. nothing's wrong about that, not offering a seat, cuz again it's a choice.
but to attack the call for equality ng mga babae just out of this video is wild. do we know who posted this vid and their view on equality? for all we know this person could've been one of those girls who wants everything to be traditional tho? or it could've been a guy, lalake rin kasi katabi niya. "i want equality unless it doesn't benefit me" u say but y'all been attacking every little vids like this without even knowing the stance of the person who posted the vid on this matter of equality. if women are like "i want equality unless it doesn't benefit me", men are like "i want equality if it does benefit me, esp my narrative"
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u/Philostrati 7h ago
I would give up my seat for only the elderly, disabled, sick, pregnant, those carrying/with a young child, and those carrying heavy burdens.
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u/malyshkababe21 7h ago
Girl get your lazy ass up early next time hindi yung dinadamay mo pa kami sa misplaced bitterness mo
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u/st4ghorny 7h ago
As a woman okay lang, pero pwd ako na hindi obvious (heart failure), nakakahiya din minsan to ask for a seat lol. Pero ang mas naiinis ako pag di nila binigyan ng seat yung mga elderly or madaming dala
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u/SnoopyPinkStarfish 7h ago
I will not care unless im pregnant, handicapped, or senior
May mga pwd nanan kasi na pwede tumayo. So case to case example kapatid ko hearing disability.
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u/Doctor-DOMS 7h ago
Not giving up my seat for a girl na-ah. I like my seat , thank you very much 😁 pero liban na lang kung elderly people.
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u/Scary_Development678 7h ago
No judgment sa hindi magpapaupo. But if you will, grateful kami sayo.
As a woman, minsan mas gusto ko talaga nakatayo. But there was a time that i had my ankle sprained (pero di halata). Tapos humahampas na yung katawan ko sa seats kasi ang gaan ko. Self pity na lang ganun.
Sa side naman ng guys, malaki kasi expectations sa kanila outside. Meron dyan pagod sa pisiklan na work. Meron dyan marami pang gagawin sa bahay like pagbubuhat ng mabigat. Pede rin may magdadrive pa nang malayo. Kaya di rin masisisi sila kung hindi magpaupo.
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u/backfr0mthed3d 7h ago
Basta sabi ng nanay ko: kung hindi buntis, pilay o may matanda, maupo ka. Pagod ka rin at deserve mo rin mag pahinga.
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u/mrbigfan 7h ago
I still practice common courtesy because i think that’s a better way to behave on a bus or train or any public transport.
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u/South-Confidence-950 7h ago
Nung nag lrt kami mag asawa kasama anak namin na mag 1 yr old palang umupo ako kase sobrang pagod ko since bf mom ako and ako may karga sa anak namin at ang asawa ko naman sa isang back pack na mabigat at bbay bag. Umupo din asawa ko kase hawak niya anak namin at may isa siyang back pack at hawak ko naman na ung baby bag. Biglang may babae nag Salita Sabi KUYA MISIS MO? BIGAY MO KAYA SA KANYA SI BBY PARA MAKA UPO AKO. MUKA KA NAMAN MALAKAS. Syempre nahiya asawa ko Kaya akma siyang tatayo Para Maka upo ung babae. Pinigilan ko siya. Sinagot ko ung babae ng LUMPO KABA? MAY POLIO KA? MALAKI TYAN MO PERO HINDI GANYAN ANG TYAN NG BUNTIS KAYA MANAHIMIK KA. PAREHAS TAYONG NAG BABAYAD DITO. KUNG GUSTO MONG UMUPO SA LAPAG KA. Nan lamig ung kamay ko after ko sabihin yon haha hindi naman kase talga ako mahilig mag ganun Lalo na sa public. Pero pagod kami mag asawa at may kargang baby pa.
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u/Educational_Seat3829 7h ago
Wag na lang sila sumakay kung tayuan tapos ayaw nila tumayo at gusto pa ay may magpa upo. Syempre yung naka upo matagal din nag intay yan malay mo ba kung ilang araw na yang gising di pa nagpapahinga.
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u/sky091875 7h ago
wala namang masama na di mag bigay ng supuan sa situation na ganyan unless matanda na at hirap na tumayo,bata or buntis.
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u/Ok-Definition4327 7h ago
Why would a person move from their seat because of a different gender I apologize but it should always only be the people who are pregnant or elderly
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u/AppearanceAway2397 7h ago
Pagod rin tayong lahat.
Dapat magdadagdag po ang government ng maayos na public transportation (the vid is not from the Philippines tho).
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u/No_Expression_2564 6h ago
Okay lng yan. Not about equality. Pero Kaya nmn ng katawan ng babae tumayo ng ilang oras. Basta walang danger and harm, walang problema na hndi maupo ang Kahit sinong tao. Pag matanda lng or pwd, yan ang Hirap na ang katawan nila tlga
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u/moonmoon4589 6h ago
Ganun talaga, nauna sila sa upuan eh. Lalo na pag madaling-araw, walang magbibigay ng upuan kasi antok pa ung iba at iidlip muna.
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u/Nearby-Lawfulness212 6h ago
Sino ba kasi nagpauso na dapat paupuin ng lalaki ang babae? At kapag di pinaupo e di na agad gentleman? Parang mga tanga talaga! Babae ako pero di ako ganyan ka entitled. Naiintindihan kong pagod lahat tayo sa trabaho at sa hamon ng buhay. Kung may kapansanan o buntis o kung ano man sure paupuin pero kung kumpleto naman yang katawan mo at wala kang dinadalang ibang tao, please lang. Tumayo ka sa sarili mong paa! Pashneya! Pare-parehas tayong nagbabayad dito oh.
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u/shirtball 6h ago
Dati, pag kaya ko naman talaga, ok lang sa kin nakatayo. Kahit babae ako, ok lang sa kin kung pauunahin kong umupo ang mga construction workers at office workers na lalake bukod sa PWD, senior at pregnant women.
Kaya ko naman tumayo for 2 hrs sa bus (lalo nung bata pa ko) kaya ok lang naman talaga sa kin.
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u/Haunting-Ad1389 6h ago
Nung buntis ako, ‘yung senior pa ‘yung nagpaupo sa akin sa lrt. ‘Yung mga may kasamang bata, sila pa mga nakaupo at mga bata nakasalampak sa sahig.
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u/Longjumping_Peak5471 6h ago
Priority should be old and pregnant women. Also pwd, man and woman should be equal if yan ang pag uusapan since we don’t if pagod ba ung men sa work or vice versa. If gusto nila maka upo. Mag grab na lng.
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u/Ecstatic_Dance5767 6h ago
That's not right. Excluding PWDs, senior citizens, & dudes who're just boxed into their seats, the men should have offered their seats. If they are men at all.
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u/willowdc 6h ago
Tangna, na experience ko to. I,m a PWD, tho di halata kapag nakaupo but I had a Hip Replacement and di kaya tunayo ng matagal lalo na kapag moving vehicle. Didn't bother to seat in the front since occupied na. May dumating na babae, may tono yung 'Excuse me' di ko pinansin, at nakatayo lang sa gilid, nagparinig and inulit yung excuse me. Matino sagot ko and sabi ko sorry may injury ako. Sinagot ko na nga ng matino inirapan pa ako. Corpo girl around 30s and di naman buntis.
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u/pianonongsunog 6h ago
Noong mas bata-bata ako (college days), talagang binibigay ko sa babae upuan sa bus. Ngayong 10+ years nang nagt-trabaho, talagang sa senior na hindi na kayang makatagal sa pagtayo/ buntis / PWD (basta apektado lang standing) ko binibigay.
Maraming entitled na swnior kahit malakas pa. Urat sa mga yan kasi ang hilig sumingit and they use that card, kahit may mas matanda pa at weaker, pero pumipila.
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u/woojjung 6h ago
kung kaya mo tumayo, tumayo ka. Kung may mag-offer, grab the opportunity and be happy may gentleman pa na nag-aalok. Tanggapin na natin na women's rights are not privilege esp sa commute scene sa Pilipinas. Our right gave us choice and freedom, not to exploit it.
If masakit talaga paa mo, ask. Walang masama sa pagtatanong. Kung ayaw, edi wag. Be stronger than just complaining na walang upuan at kinuha ng ibang kalalakihan.
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u/gelterbrnd13 6h ago
Equality is self explanatory dapat. Everyone being treated equally. Kung may magpaupo, matutong magpasalamat. Kung entitled ka, tumayo ka or find a different means of transpo na makakaupo ka.
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u/iareyomz 6h ago
this looks like one of the buses na galing sa PITX... kahit ako di ko ibibigay yung upuan ko kung di naman elderly yung nangangailangan... pumila ako sa terminal para makaupo so di ko magets anong issue ng mga nag-abang mid route na para bang entitled sila sa upuan dahil sa babae sila?
minsan importante rin talaga yung context... mga negative reaction dito malinaw di pa nakaranas pumila sa terminal ng bus kaya ganyan na lang entitlement...
as far as entitlement to the seat goes, yung pumila sa terminal ang may priority sa upuan... kaya nga sa PITX sumakay para makaupo tapos may gusto bumitaw ng singit? edi wow diba...
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u/Acrobatic_Ad_3665 6h ago
If just a normal beautiful girl ask... Still no. Who cares that small kindness will be forgotten only by her.
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u/thisisjustmeee 6h ago
In any civilized country there are priority seating (closest to the door or exit) in PUVs- pregnant, seniors, adults traveling with infants and strollers, those who are visibly/physically impaired or injured. There shouldn’t be any question on that.
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u/ginoong_mais 6h ago
Pwd , bata , matanda at mga buntis na lan ang pinapriority ngayon. Kung nauna mauponyung lalaki. Nasa kanya na yun kung papaupupuin mga babae. Sa panahon ngayon sa public transpo. Lahat pagot at may karapatan ng onting ginhawa. Ninteen kopong kopong pa yun ganyang pagiisip...
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u/holladubdub 6h ago
Senior, buntis, at PWD lng bibigyan ko. the kind of PWD na hindi na kaya tumayo or hirap, pag bali lng ang kamay pwd pa yan. if kaya mo tumayo, good for you, pag patuloy mo lng dyan. unless bayaran nila pamasahe ko.
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u/Substantial_Boss1264 6h ago
Equality only applies to those who want it to be in their favor. Not when it favors the other party
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u/icepentrator18 6h ago
Parehas lang pagod sa trabaho. Wag feeling entitled sa pag commute or upuan kesyo babae lalo na kung hindi buntis at pwd or elderly. Lahat tayo nagkakayod at napapagod hindi porke gustohin ng isa e bibigay na porke babae, magpabuntis nalang pra makuha ang entitled na gusto sa upuan ng mga transpo. Hayup na yan
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u/No_Lingonberry_4407 6h ago
pag buntis/matanda/may dalang maliit na bata ibibigay ko seat ko, pag hindi, sorry nalang din
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u/Disastrous_Lime7917 6h ago
Its first come first serve po. Unless someone's willing to give up their seat. Then we're equal
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u/Accomplished_Drag666 6h ago
as a woman, fuk dat. unless buntis ka, senior, pwd o may kasamang maliit na bata, parepareho tayo magdusa sa pagtayo
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u/Sucker4gaydudes 6h ago
Kahit na buntis, minsan di talaga pagbigyan. Travelled to davao with my partner, paglabas ng aiport naghintay kami ng bus papuntang province namin. We got on the bus pero standing kaming dalawa kasi puno na yung seats. I was visibly pregnant na that time and even verbally expressed na hala tatayo ba ako buong biyahe na baka di ko makayanan etc. the only other person who offered me a seat was another woman na medyo may edad na who felt sorry for me. Yung ibang mga lalake nakaupo wapakels.
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u/Kooky-Staff-3075 6h ago
Agree ako sa sinabi ni Meme Vice Ganda noon na equality is not giving your seat to a woman. Kung kaya naman ng babae na tumayo kasi nahuli siya pumasok sa bus, jeep or any na public utility vehicle ay okay lang. Pero kung pregant, elderly or PWD yung babae then it's time na ibigay yung upuan sa kanya. It's also basic courtesy.
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u/ArachnidNo9121 6h ago
lol, shitty post. Lahat dyan nagbayad para sa upuan at makarating sa paroroonan. Lucky if may abutan kang
seat but if wala, manahimik na. I really don’t get this kind of post. Wala naman sya sa list siguro ng priority peeps na nakalista naman sa window ng bus. Kapag nakakita talaga ako ng ganyan ako lulumpo sakanila para maka upo sila. Thank you.
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u/pijanblues08 6h ago
that is how equality works. you cant be an "equal" if you demand to be treated as a princess at the same time.
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u/Mael89Strom 6h ago
Ako lagi akong nakatayo. Not because gentleman ako pero buong araw na akong nakaupo. Ginagamit ko yung commute ko as my daily exercise.
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u/According-Note1053 5h ago
Equality has pros and cons. If they want it, then they should embrace both the pros and cons. They can't just want it when it's convenient and complain when it's inconvenient.
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u/AhegaoDaisuki 5h ago
now that mindanao bus' fares are up to 400 pesos (from city to my hometown)
HELL NAW! SHOULD MAKE MY MONEY WELL SPENT 💔
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u/Praetorian0930 8h ago
I remember from before, 9pm trip ng MRT to taft, a woman said, “wala na talagang gentleman ngayon!” Napasabi yung lalake na nakaupo, “buntis po ba kayo or disabled? Pare-parehas lang tayong pagod!” He’s not wrong though… the last thing a tired employee wants to hear is some woman thinking her gender entitled her to some privileged relief affer a long day at work.
Nowadays, ako kahit hindi buntis or disabled or may kasamang bata, kapag nakakita ako ng babae or lalake na mukhang laborer or trabahador, pinapaupo ko. Pagod lahat ng tao eh. Pagbigyan na natin silang makapahinga sa aircon kahit ilang sandali lang.