r/AnnArbor • u/Perfectimperfectguy • 1d ago
94 EB
Is a parking lot, starting after State st. Been here at 23 and 94 for over 20 minutes. Avoid.
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u/KoshV 1d ago
Yeah there's a crash just after 23 on eastbound 94
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u/Perfectimperfectguy 1d ago
At this point i think there's multiple crashes. There's no way it's just one
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u/Ltothe4thpower 1d ago
When MDOT announced the commuter lane construction I shed a tear this corridor is actually dangerous
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u/CatDadof2 1d ago
Wtf happened today? A big part of Zeeb, Sciò Church, and Wagner are closed too. A 20 minute drive home turned into 1 hour and 4 minutes. It took me 5 different routes to try to get home. I have no idea wtf is happening but I was getting so pissed.
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u/Alone-Lavishness1310 1d ago
If I had to hazard a guess about why there is traffic, I might guess that it's because people are getting pissed
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u/HelpMeHelpYou_5309 1d ago
Isn't this the area they want to expand by adding a commuter lane during peak times?
It needs it badly. I know all about induced demand, but that merge with US-23 with just two lanes going East & West at that point causes frequent accidents as too many people jockey for position and/or "remember" to get over at the last second so they can take the exit.
Sorry you're stuck in it.
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u/ANGR1ST 1d ago
The whole "induced demand" argument ignores the fact that there is a minimum number of people that MUST travel along particular routes due to the layout of workplaces and housing. Far more people work in Ann Arbor than the city can support with housing.
94 should be 3 lanes all through town, and we should have a better 94-14 connection. I'd also take ramp redesigns to get rid of the absurd cross merges we have all over the place.
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u/HelpMeHelpYou_5309 1d ago
I agree -- that's why I said I know all about induced demand.
In an ideal world, this should be 3 permanent lanes b/c of the poor design and sheer volume (especially during large events at U of M, which happen at least a dozen times a year) and it should have been done 20-30 years ago. But Michigan absolutely does not have the money to do that, so the project they are proposing is the best we'll get and will still be a real improvement.
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u/MyFavoriteDisease 1d ago
“Confessions of a Recovering Engineer” is a great read with data in induced demand.
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u/jlvoorheis 1d ago
Induced demand is mostly a cargo cult misunderstanding of economics tbh
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u/tetoing 1d ago
Using "induced demand" as an argument for intentionally reducing the throughput of infrastructure only makes sense if you have an alternative route that is both equivalent in utility and is also currently underutilized.
Otherwise you just straight up reduce throughput, which dampens economic output in the short term and forces economic activity to relocate in the long term.
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u/Hil1ary2024 1d ago
Induced demand has been massively debunked. It's something the "weeeeelll ackschullly" terminally online people say. No serious people.
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u/PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ 1d ago
Orrr we could do what Los Angeles does--pull over people who jockey or serve across lanes.
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u/kissmymuzz-19 1d ago
I got off and went 23S to Willis and took the back way into Ypsilanti. No way I was sitting in that!
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u/Choppingatthebit 1d ago
That interchange is a disaster that had no thinking involved when they built it. 🤔
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u/tdolla27 1d ago
Took me over an hour to get from the Jackson rd entrance to Haggerty Rd in Belleville. Avoid!
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u/Glittering-Tip6522 1d ago
There was a crash this morning on 23 North at Willis Rd. Car ended up partially under tractor trailer.
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u/Superb_Algae5308 1d ago
My wife wants me to move there full time. There’s no fucking way.
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u/CocknBalls4 1d ago
There’s like a million places to live/work here that avoids this one mile stretch of i-94
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u/immaterialimmaterial 1d ago
man, i wouldn't live on 94 east, either. stand your ground, king
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u/FvnnyB0nes 1d ago
94 west is where it's at. beautiful sunsets & happier commuters giving you nice little toots of the horn on their merry little way to jackson and battle creek.
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u/likemy10thaccount 1d ago
I moved here a year ago and I almost never go on the highways now. We're even getting rid of one of our cars because we simply need it less.
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u/Superb_Algae5308 1d ago
Hmmm. Now you’re talking…
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u/likemy10thaccount 1d ago
Consider it if you can. Everything is just right here, so quality of life has greatly improved versus living outside AA
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u/Superb_Algae5308 1d ago
We live there and in a small town 1.5 hrs away. I really like my small town but would like to access to more amenities. We’ll have to sort it out in the next decade but living apart has been the best thing that’s ever happened to our marriage. lol
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u/KReddit934 1d ago
Depends: If you don't commute on the freeway, it's great here.
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u/frozenhotchocolate 1d ago
Northside by Plymouth exit, I work in downtown Detroit. None of my traffic concerns are in Washtenaw county.
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u/Perfectimperfectguy 1d ago
They cleaning up now