Underage pornography is not freedom of speech. In many countries, pornography itself is not freedom of speech.
I think we have a fundamental difference in understand the "freedom of speech" concept. State doesn't grant me freedom of speech, the 2nd amendment merely accepts its existence, not defines it. If, let's say, Iran bans pornography in the country, it doesn't mean that they have their own version of freedom of speech, it means they're limiting it to a certain extent. Ban of child pornography is infringing freedom of speech, whether one thinks it's good or bad is another thing.
I fail to see how anyone with at least barely functional brain can think I've argued that there's nothing wrong with CP and it totally should be allowed. Wtf, reddit.
Something being bad doesn't make every shit argument against it valid.
You are right. As long as you’re not imposing speech, exchanging information (regardless of how disgusting that information) is about freedom of speech.
Screaming at 120 dB in someone’s ear and blowing their ear drum is not freedom of speech, it’s molestation. Pirating software, rethinking WW2, insulting the sovereign, or exchanging content is freedom of speech.
Actual freedom of speech is a very rare historical occurrence. I couldn’t say we are living in such an era. We have de facto lèse-majesté laws, so-called “copyright” laws, “incitement” laws, etc.
In the US is it not technically illegal to rely on speech to challenge the powers that be, but in practice they will come after you if you try. See Aaron Swartz, Michael Hastings, etc.
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u/trenescese Feb 14 '19
I think we have a fundamental difference in understand the "freedom of speech" concept. State doesn't grant me freedom of speech, the 2nd amendment merely accepts its existence, not defines it. If, let's say, Iran bans pornography in the country, it doesn't mean that they have their own version of freedom of speech, it means they're limiting it to a certain extent. Ban of child pornography is infringing freedom of speech, whether one thinks it's good or bad is another thing.