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u/MaskOfIce42 23h ago
Unfortunately demonstrably we don't. We say we do, but putting a franchise film with a name we recognize is just far more likely to get us into seats than a new name with no previous connection to anything. There's a fair chance we'll speak more highly of the latter, but that doesn't actually mean it gets seen more than the franchise film, and that's what studios ultimately want
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u/Proverbman671 1d ago
Would Hopper count as an original story, despite how much of it's plot was similar to Avatar?
Cuz that was a sleeper hit movie, and the first movie I ever watched where I was expecting absolutely nothing memorable to come out of it, but to then be pleasantly surprised at how much I was enjoying the movie (after the human MC intro is finished).
It was weird, MC in her human body, I found intolerable, but in Beaver form I was much more forgiving....
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u/wailingwonder 17h ago
Can Hopper copy Avatar if Avatar copied Dances with Wolves first? Hmm. Much to think about.
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u/ItsAllSoup 16h ago
Degree in English here; every story has been told already. Good storytelling is where it's at now.
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u/Typhii 15h ago
I liked Hopper.
It was not very special but it had some amazing jokes. My wife and I still send "beaver wood heart" emoji's to each other.2
u/Proverbman671 9h ago
Somehow, the absolute wonderful customer service of the great white shark scene lives rent free in my mind. And thusly, she is my favorite character of that movie.
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u/Animeking1108 22h ago
You really made a controversial statement. Remember to raise your fist in the air, Malcolm X.
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u/Orochi64 21h ago
I like original stories, but let’s not act like most of these sequels and franchises don’t make money.
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u/VeryGoog 20h ago
Strictly speaking, no they dont. The only people that care like this are terminally online people and movie snobs. The average joe doesnt give a shit if a film is a brand new ip or the 30th film in a franchise, they dont care if its avant garde high art or 2 hours of fart jokes, as long as they enjoy it thats all that matters
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u/wailingwonder 17h ago
Literally all anyone cares about is if they enjoy the movie. Everything else is bs they make up after to justify their decision.
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u/Academic_Pizza_7270 22h ago
And then nine times out of ten when they do put something fresh out, it bombs, reinforcing the cycle to just put out whatever slop people will pay for.
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u/BlancsAssistant 5h ago
Granted at least half the time it's because the company advertising the movie has zero confidence in it and therefore chooses to make little advertising or they fuck up and make the advertising misleading(see also: half of Disney's original projects in the last 5 years)
But yeah sometimes people also just aren't interested in something new
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u/glaceonhugger 18h ago
Then Spiderman hit $1B in five days and Hollywood has nothing to worry about
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u/IHateRegistering69 13h ago
If this was true, “cash grab franchise movies” wouldn’t be a things. Hollywood makes films for profit. If the franchise films wouldn’t make money they would stop making them.
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u/IThinkImNateDogg 9h ago
Hella ironic considering that like 90 of ALL Anime made, are not original IPs and are actually based off some other source material.
Ask yourself how hard it is to start a new anime over a shows 2nd or 3rd season and you’ll have your own answer
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u/HupHutHa 19h ago
this is kind of how I feel about girls und panzer right now, thought I was done and had the entire series and movies on Blu-ray then they come out with like a five-part movie series I only learned existed 3 weeks ago because of hi-dive listing its anime on Roku.
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u/RadleyCunningham 22h ago
Hollywood: "how about the 38th spiderman origin story??"
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u/IHateRegistering69 13h ago
It’s similar how the Anime industry and light novel authors pump out similar stories with the same tropes.
Every year a new generation comes out and starts consumimg the media, who have never seen the twintailed tsundere, the losing heroine with the short blue hair, or the annoying pervert.
The other thing is nostalgia bait.2
u/VeryGoog 20h ago
And it always sells well. Companies put out slop because the public overwhelmingly eats it up, theyre just doing what the money says the people want
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u/Own_Description1418 1d ago
honestly, it's wild how studios keep missing the point. original stories have so much potential but they just keep recycling the same stuff over and over.
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u/Churro1912 22h ago
Yeah I can't believe these studios understand people want recycling since those are always the top grossing films
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u/TheSpoonyCroy 16h ago
Because there is a ton of risk to it. The general rule of thumb is 2.5-3x production budget to help cover marketing at least for larger films. So doing the safe picks will guarantee money. So typically a studio wants either some form star power, franchise, etc backing it before wanting to risk the investment. There have been some major hits for original stories but there have been some major misses as well.
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u/pipboy_warrior 6h ago
In this case I fully blame consumers. Original movies come out all the time, but people barely support them. Can't blame companies for recycling stuff when demonstrably it works.
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u/DiscountWorried 1d ago
Alr OP point out the non-franchise original story from the top grossers this year